New Audi A4 Owners not happy with car - selling them!

goacom · 14th February 2009, 01:39

Audi is the fastest growing luxury nameplate in the world. In Germany, the new A4 has taken the sales crown from the BMW 3 series in the premium small car category. More importantly, they are enjoying higher profit margins than Mercedes and BMW. Obviously, Audi is doing something right. In terms of handling, I think the 3 series is still better than the new A4. However, in terms of overall experience, the A4 is right up there. Audi's turbo charged direct injection 4 cylinder engines (1.8 and 2.0 TSI) are the best 4 cylinder petrol engines in the world.

zenx · 14th February 2009, 07:50

Man - Audis ? It almost sounds like they need their own Reliability Issues and Niggles thread now

That too after paying astronomical sums of money.
Yeah, I guess Mercs and BMWs can continue to command a premium.

canonball · 14th February 2009, 11:30

I suppose the power output of diesel vs bmw and mb diesel's may also be dampner as on paper and based on feedback from users the A4 is not really fast maybe that plays on the minds of the owners. Lets see what happens as time goes by the way there have been some A6 complaints as well so it is not just 2 owners.

iraghava · 14th February 2009, 13:24

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Originally Posted by goacom

Audi's turbo charged direct injection 4 cylinder engines (1.8 and 2.0 TSI) are the best 4 cylinder petrol engines in the world.

I'm sure Honda would like to debate that!

abhinav.gupta88 · 14th February 2009, 13:31

I was given an offer for 36 lakh on a 2 month old 3.2 Audi A4 run only 2000kms.

When i decided to buy one, it had already gone. :(

GTO · 14th February 2009, 19:32

Nothing beats the 3.2 FSI for driving pleasure, but the TDi is too plain-jane. Lacks the horses of the C / 3 and isn't a match dynamically. I'd wait until we have atleast 20 - 25 ownership surveys of the A4 before passing a comment on reliability.

abhinav.gupta88 · 14th February 2009, 19:42

Also the new engines might help with the sales and drivability of deisels as well.

Ricky_63 · 14th February 2009, 20:00

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Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

I was given an offer for 36 lakh on a 2 month old 3.2 Audi A4 run only 2000kms.

When i decided to buy one, it had already gone. :(

If you are really interested I can get you a 2008 3.2 Quattro Audi from my circle for under 36 Lacs. MINT condition.

If you want a TT 3.2 I can get you that as well, done 4000 kms MINT

Let me know

I notice that most adverse comments for the great 4 ring marquee are from non-audi users. Audi is amongst the best engineered & loaded car - PERIOD. Needless to say I am a HUGE Audi Fan !!!

Cheers

abhinav.gupta88 · 14th February 2009, 20:02

I have dropped the idea as of now.
Would rather buy a new one and look at other options which would even include the New to come A6.

Ricky_63 · 14th February 2009, 20:06

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Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

I have dropped the idea as of now.
Would rather buy a new one and look at other options which would even include the New to come A6.

IF you really wanna buy, this should interest you. Ofcourse if you wanna buy the same car at 10L extra it is your privilage.

By the way I have no commercial interest in the matter. So go right ahead with what you want to do !!!!

I'd say be happy with your RS - that is a stonker of a car.

All the best

Vid6639 · 14th February 2009, 20:08

Ricky how about a long term ownership review on your Audi A4, even if it is the older variant.

Ricky_63 · 14th February 2009, 20:12

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Originally Posted by vid6639

Ricky how about a long term ownership review on your Audi A4, even if it is the older variant.

LONG TERM it has done 4000 kms

. It rocks BUT it does not Roll

.

From whatever little that I have driven it, it a gem of engineering. From the engine to the transmission, to the ride (with PP2 225/50/16)

Cornering hard at 80-90 kmph is a breeze but results in some squealling tyres. The fastest I have so far gone is 165 - 170 kmph which is a breeze. I thought I was doing 120 or so till I saw the speedo.

The fuel consumption in the city is about 10 kmpl, highways got me 15/16 kmpl. With 100% A/c on.

I did have a blocked EGR valve (bad diesel) which was fixed & will be replaced free. Order placed by Audi in Singapore...

All in all a great car with the maximum features vs the competition. Worldwide I understand Audi is giving BMW a hard time. This is real time numbers not published in auto magazines.

What more can I say ?? Phew !!!!

Cheers

KimRS · 14th February 2009, 20:31

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Originally Posted by reppy

Don't know about the mechanical problems but all VW cars (including Audis) in the US have loads of niggling electrical and electronic problems after roughly 40-60k miles.

You'll see loads of people selling 3 year old VW's and Audi's in the US as soon as they would start facing those common problems - check engine light on, electrical mirrors not working etc.

Same here in Europe, (you'd think they'd do a better job in their homeland, but NO) but i heard the same thing about the new series of Benz...... Especially the electrics seem to be the biggest problem for a lot of new models ....maybe they should'nt put so much buttons for all kinds of stuff in the cars huh?

But hey, if i read the prices from Ricky, all i'm thinking is "how much would shipping it to the Netherlands cost?"

navpreet318 · 14th February 2009, 21:06

This isn't a new thing and is not limited to the ones assembled in india.A business partner with us bought a Q7 with custom beige interiors and all the bells and whistles.But within 2 months the sunroof started acting up and rattling.then the bose sound system failed.and he was the most pissed off person.

he had spent close to 90 lakhs on a car which was acting up.and now he does not drive the car anymore.its suspension has just been changed.the pneumatic suspension had some major problem after 15k kms.

amit27 · 15th February 2009, 09:55

Luxury cars going cheap is also a phenomenon of the Financial industry going bust . No names please but we have a tie up with Hertz and they have offerd us a new version of Merc owned by a honcho of once high flying exec from from leading ex i bank at almost 8 L discount this was offered on lease transfer . I do not have that kind of money but their a lot of such deals abound on higher end cars like Laura / Camary etc. this is basically where outstanding book value is higher than actual market value and owners are looking to get rid of the cars .

14th February 2009, 01:39	#16
goacom BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Jose USA, Panaji, Goa Posts: 89 Thanked: 341 Times	Audi is the fastest growing luxury nameplate in the world. In Germany, the new A4 has taken the sales crown from the BMW 3 series in the premium small car category. More importantly, they are enjoying higher profit margins than Mercedes and BMW. Obviously, Audi is doing something right. In terms of handling, I think the 3 series is still better than the new A4. However, in terms of overall experience, the A4 is right up there. Audi's turbo charged direct injection 4 cylinder engines (1.8 and 2.0 TSI) are the best 4 cylinder petrol engines in the world.
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14th February 2009, 07:50	#17
zenx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,161 Thanked: 158 Times View My Garage	Man - Audis ? It almost sounds like they need their own Reliability Issues and Niggles thread now That too after paying astronomical sums of money. Yeah, I guess Mercs and BMWs can continue to command a premium.
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14th February 2009, 11:30	#18
canonball Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,466 Thanked: 205 Times View My Garage	I suppose the power output of diesel vs bmw and mb diesel's may also be dampner as on paper and based on feedback from users the A4 is not really fast maybe that plays on the minds of the owners. Lets see what happens as time goes by the way there have been some A6 complaints as well so it is not just 2 owners.
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14th February 2009, 13:31	#20
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	I was given an offer for 36 lakh on a 2 month old 3.2 Audi A4 run only 2000kms. When i decided to buy one, it had already gone. :(
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14th February 2009, 19:32	#21
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,535 Thanked: 300,745 Times View My Garage	Nothing beats the 3.2 FSI for driving pleasure, but the TDi is too plain-jane. Lacks the horses of the C / 3 and isn't a match dynamically. I'd wait until we have atleast 20 - 25 ownership surveys of the A4 before passing a comment on reliability.
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14th February 2009, 19:42	#22
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Also the new engines might help with the sales and drivability of deisels as well.
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14th February 2009, 20:02	#24
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	I have dropped the idea as of now. Would rather buy a new one and look at other options which would even include the New to come A6.
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14th February 2009, 20:08	#26
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,477 Times View My Garage	Ricky how about a long term ownership review on your Audi A4, even if it is the older variant.
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14th February 2009, 21:06	#29
navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,264 Thanked: 2,983 Times	This isn't a new thing and is not limited to the ones assembled in india.A business partner with us bought a Q7 with custom beige interiors and all the bells and whistles.But within 2 months the sunroof started acting up and rattling.then the bose sound system failed.and he was the most pissed off person. he had spent close to 90 lakhs on a car which was acting up.and now he does not drive the car anymore.its suspension has just been changed.the pneumatic suspension had some major problem after 15k kms.
	() Thanks

15th February 2009, 09:55	#30
amit27 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Guragaon Posts: 173 Thanked: 0 Times	Luxury cars going cheap is also a phenomenon of the Financial industry going bust . No names please but we have a tie up with Hertz and they have offerd us a new version of Merc owned by a honcho of once high flying exec from from leading ex i bank at almost 8 L discount this was offered on lease transfer . I do not have that kind of money but their a lot of such deals abound on higher end cars like Laura / Camary etc. this is basically where outstanding book value is higher than actual market value and owners are looking to get rid of the cars .
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