Dealer accused Mercedes of forgery. Top Merc executives apply for bail

alto99 · 23rd February 2010, 13:03

Recently there were news of a new MB dealership in Pune without any reference to their existing ones. Came across this article in DNA Pune which explains it.

Dealer takes Mercedes head-on - dnaindia.com

MileCruncher · 23rd February 2010, 14:02

Quite interesting. If Mercedes has terminated the contract, then they should have published public notices in the newspapers to let people know about that. If the same wasn't done then there is obviously something fishy.

OT: In all the latest BMW Ads, the existing dealer, Delta Motor's name is not announce while a new name "Kun Exclusive" is printed. Don't know whats the matter here.

Technocrat · 23rd February 2010, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MileCruncher

Quite interesting. If Mercedes has terminated the contract, then they should have published public notices in the newspapers to let people know about that. If the same wasn't done then there is obviously something fishy.

Actually they did, there were two big page ads on 24th & 25th Nov in Pune TOI. See here

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h@r$h@l · 23rd February 2010, 14:16

When MBIL decided to withdraw CAMA motors here, they had issued a full page notice in TOI well in advance.

scooby05 · 23rd February 2010, 14:32

MBIL has been getting Head Heavy, IMO. I as an Owner of 4 MB cars am very dissatisfied with the way they respond and find an excuse to wriggle out of their responsibility.
Its not surprising that the dealers are also being treated wrongly.
Sanghi, Cama, Millenium etc etc cannot all be wrong!

HammerHead · 23rd February 2010, 14:36

Interesting indeed.
I am eager to know what will be the final result of this case.
Mercedes website has only B.U.Bhandari as their dealer for Pune.

scooby05 · 23rd February 2010, 14:38

Bu Bhandari are experienced dealers, and should do a good job too! But MBIL should look at Goodwill too and not only Money.

ishotmydog · 23rd February 2010, 15:34

i remember seeing this AD on TOI which said that millennium motors are no longer an authorized dealership, didn't know there was an ugly fight going on between the two

vvrchandra · 23rd February 2010, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by MileCruncher

..OT: In all the latest BMW Ads, the existing dealer, Delta Motor's name is not announce while a new name "Kun Exclusive" is printed. Don't know whats the matter here.

There was an ad in news papers by BMW that Kun is thier dealer going forward and Delta Motors is no more associated with BMW.

canonball · 23rd February 2010, 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooby05

MBIL has been getting Head Heavy, IMO. I as an Owner of 4 MB cars am very dissatisfied with the way they respond and find an excuse to wriggle out of their responsibility.
Its not surprising that the dealers are also being treated wrongly.
Sanghi, Cama, Millenium etc etc cannot all be wrong!

Somthing a miss here all dealers have been with company for a long time and I have similar experience with MB. They really need to get their act together - they should run service/repair themselves and not make it a business as a lot of fence sitters will by their cars if maintaince is clean and fair. MB should also give 5 year warrenty like every where else in the world since they talk about permanently committed to india. i think the dealers found out that being a MB partner is a raw deal just like most MB car owners I talk to feel

funkydevil · 24th February 2010, 20:21

Hey guys,

Just saw this in the news yesterday, anybody got any more info on this??

"It was high drama in Pune on Monday when six top officials of Mercedes Benz India (MBI), including the CEO and managing director, Wilfried Aulbur, rushed to a Shivajinagar court seeking interim anticipatory bail in an alleged forgery case.

The case was filed by Millennium Motors Private Ltd, challenging the termination of their dealership. Millennium Motors has alleged that officials at Mercedes Benz India forged documents of account settlement. The plea will be heard on Tuesday.

Mercedes Benz officials had approached Bombay high court on February 18, seeking relief in the event a case was registered in this regard. The high court stated that in the event of arrest of these officials

in connection with the Millennium case, the applicants be released on bail of Rs25,000 each.

“The high court has given them interim protection till February 25 and will hear the case that day,” said Shyam Taori, advocate for Millennium Motors.

Khadki police station senior inspector Vilas Gawli said the police would record statements of Merdedes officials before filing an FIR against them.

Police said they had received a complaint from Dipak Naik, the chairman of Millennium Motors requesting investigation into the allegations.

The allegations Naik alleged that the forgery by Mercedes officials had caused Millennium “severe financial losses.”

Source - http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/repor...ead-on_1351367

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GTO · 26th February 2010, 10:10

I don't buy this forgery rubbish. Mercedes is amongst the most renowned automotive marques in the world and they have solid corporate systems in place. I know that, even if a dealer wants to release an advert or change the size of the logo in his dealership, it has to be pre-approved by Mercedes. C'mon, this is an extremely responsible organisation here. I do not believe that Mercedes officials would stoop so low as to forge dealer signatures on a form.

It's unfortunate that one complaint from a dealership has the CEO running to the high court for relief from arrest (bail). The latest DNA news item states that bail extension uptil the 4th of March has been allowed.

khanak · 26th February 2010, 10:16

Don't be so sure about that

Report: Daimler to pay $200M over bribery scandal — Autoblog

vivek_gaur69 · 26th February 2010, 10:31

search on google the following
"Mercedes crash test scandal"

you will find out how they manipulate media.

cheers

nkrishnap · 26th February 2010, 10:32

Many automobile manufacturers are in the news for all wrong reasons, be it recalls, scam, bribe scandals.

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alto99 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 348 Thanked: 71 Times	Dealer accused Mercedes of forgery. Top Merc executives apply for bail Recently there were news of a new MB dealership in Pune without any reference to their existing ones. Came across this article in DNA Pune which explains it. Dealer takes Mercedes head-on - dnaindia.com
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23rd February 2010, 14:02	#2
MileCruncher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MH01 Posts: 4,235 Thanked: 592 Times View My Garage	Quite interesting. If Mercedes has terminated the contract, then they should have published public notices in the newspapers to let people know about that. If the same wasn't done then there is obviously something fishy. OT: In all the latest BMW Ads, the existing dealer, Delta Motor's name is not announce while a new name "Kun Exclusive" is printed. Don't know whats the matter here.
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h@r$h@l Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 1,450 Thanked: 741 Times	When MBIL decided to withdraw CAMA motors here, they had issued a full page notice in TOI well in advance.
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23rd February 2010, 14:32	#5
scooby05 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,145 Thanked: 192 Times	MBIL has been getting Head Heavy, IMO. I as an Owner of 4 MB cars am very dissatisfied with the way they respond and find an excuse to wriggle out of their responsibility. Its not surprising that the dealers are also being treated wrongly. Sanghi, Cama, Millenium etc etc cannot all be wrong!
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23rd February 2010, 14:36	#6
HammerHead Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Goan in Pune Posts: 1,247 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	Interesting indeed. I am eager to know what will be the final result of this case. Mercedes website has only B.U.Bhandari as their dealer for Pune.
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scooby05 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,145 Thanked: 192 Times	Bu Bhandari are experienced dealers, and should do a good job too! But MBIL should look at Goodwill too and not only Money. Last edited by scooby05 : 23rd February 2010 at 14:41.
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23rd February 2010, 15:34	#8
ishotmydog BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 593 Thanked: 18 Times	i remember seeing this AD on TOI which said that millennium motors are no longer an authorized dealership, didn't know there was an ugly fight going on between the two
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24th February 2010, 20:21	#11
funkydevil BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 362 Thanked: 102 Times	Dealer sues Mercedes Benz India !!! Hey guys, Just saw this in the news yesterday, anybody got any more info on this?? "It was high drama in Pune on Monday when six top officials of Mercedes Benz India (MBI), including the CEO and managing director, Wilfried Aulbur, rushed to a Shivajinagar court seeking interim anticipatory bail in an alleged forgery case. The case was filed by Millennium Motors Private Ltd, challenging the termination of their dealership. Millennium Motors has alleged that officials at Mercedes Benz India forged documents of account settlement. The plea will be heard on Tuesday. Mercedes Benz officials had approached Bombay high court on February 18, seeking relief in the event a case was registered in this regard. The high court stated that in the event of arrest of these officials in connection with the Millennium case, the applicants be released on bail of Rs25,000 each. “The high court has given them interim protection till February 25 and will hear the case that day,” said Shyam Taori, advocate for Millennium Motors. Khadki police station senior inspector Vilas Gawli said the police would record statements of Merdedes officials before filing an FIR against them. Police said they had received a complaint from Dipak Naik, the chairman of Millennium Motors requesting investigation into the allegations. The allegations Naik alleged that the forgery by Mercedes officials had caused Millennium “severe financial losses.” Source - http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/repor...ead-on_1351367 (Mods, please move this thread to the right place if needed)
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26th February 2010, 10:10	#12
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,761 Times View My Garage	I don't buy this forgery rubbish. Mercedes is amongst the most renowned automotive marques in the world and they have solid corporate systems in place. I know that, even if a dealer wants to release an advert or change the size of the logo in his dealership, it has to be pre-approved by Mercedes. C'mon, this is an extremely responsible organisation here. I do not believe that Mercedes officials would stoop so low as to forge dealer signatures on a form. It's unfortunate that one complaint from a dealership has the CEO running to the high court for relief from arrest (bail). The latest DNA news item states that bail extension uptil the 4th of March has been allowed.
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26th February 2010, 10:16	#13
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	Don't be so sure about that Report: Daimler to pay $200M over bribery scandal — Autoblog
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26th February 2010, 10:31	#14
vivek_gaur69 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: chandigarh Posts: 44 Thanked: 14 Times	search on google the following "Mercedes crash test scandal" you will find out how they manipulate media. cheers
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26th February 2010, 10:32	#15
nkrishnap Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,983 Thanked: 7,407 Times View My Garage	Many automobile manufacturers are in the news for all wrong reasons, be it recalls, scam, bribe scandals.
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