Autocar goofs-up acceleration figures...twice in a row?

Shan2nu · 4th December 2005, 00:08

In the modifications section of the Nov 2005 issue (Page 106), Autocar had tested the 235bhp Skoda RS, tuned by Pete's.

Now, the acceleration figures in that issue were as follows :

Kmph -- Stock RS -- Moded RS (wet)
10 -- 0.69 -- 0.88
20 -- 1.13 -- 2.19
30 -- 1.69 -- 3.12
40 -- 2.28 -- 3.70
50 -- 2.95 -- 4.31
60 -- 3.70 -- 5.00
70 -- 4.74 -- 5.95
80 -- 5.80 -- 6.98
90 -- 6.98 -- 8.02
100 -- 8.30 -- 9.11
110 -- 9.93 -- 9.68
120 -- 11.74 -- 9.70
130 -- 13.62 -- 9.72
140 -- 15.85 -- 15.90
150 -- 18.55 -- 17.65
160 -- 22.23 -- 20.79

In this months issue (December 2005 - Page 9), this is what they've printed.

Erratum
The acceleration table in the "Modifications" article in the November 2005 issue inadvertently carried jumbled-up figures.
They should have read as :

Kmph -- Stock RS -- Moded RS (wet)
10 -- 0.55 -- 0.88
20 -- 1.05 -- 2.19
30 -- 1.78 -- 3.12
40 -- 2.46 -- 3.70
50 -- 3.18 -- 4.31
60 -- 3.99 -- 5.00
70 -- 5.19 -- 5.95
80 -- 6.32 -- 6.98
90 -- 7.63 -- 8.02
100 -- 9.06 -- 9.11
110 -- 10.76 -- 9.68
120 -- 12.95 -- 9.70
130 -- 15.20 -- 9.72
140 -- 17.62 -- 15.90
150 -- 20.50 -- 17.65
160 -- 24.12 -- 20.79

Ok, so they've corrected the figures for the Stock RS but, look at the acceleration on the moded one. 100-130kmph takes just 0.61 secs where as, 130-140kmph takes 6.18 secs!!!!!. 3.76 secs lower than a Stock RS?????

I have never heard of any car with such in-consistant acceleration figures. This is practically, or even technically not possible. I believe the acc figures between 100 and 130kmph need to be checked again.

Shan2nu

Mpower · 4th December 2005, 00:39

I saw that article. Could'nt they have waited for the rain to clear up.
...or driven 100 kms to where there is no rain. Not the kind of PR Pete needs.

veyron1 · 4th December 2005, 00:49

well, even if the road was wet, i don't think you can manage that sort of timings- unless you are deliberately slipping the clutch in third and taking it slow; but then, it doesn't count as an acceleration run, and the figures are only academic- taken just for the sake of publishing.

Shan2nu · 4th December 2005, 00:57

The way i see it, the figures for the Moded RS should have read as follows :

Kmph -- Moded RS
100 -- 9.11
110 -- 10.68
120 -- 11.70
130 -- 13.72
140 -- 15.90

Shan2nu

jkdas · 4th December 2005, 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

I saw that article. Could'nt they have waited for the rain to clear up.
...or driven 100 kms to where there is no rain. Not the kind of PR Pete needs.

Its still raining here in Kerala. Donno whens its gonna stop

. Maybe they should come down again and do a test when its dry. NH 47 from Cochin to Alapuzha should be fine.

DCEite · 4th December 2005, 11:32

These Autocar figures are all crap.

I dont trust any of the Stock vs modd Skoda figures, new or old.

Abhay · 5th December 2005, 12:18

110 -- 10.76 -- 9.68
120 -- 12.95 -- 9.70
130 -- 15.20 -- 9.72

110-130 in 0.04 secs ? :O
weird to say the least...

Rtech · 5th December 2005, 12:31

Maybe we should do our own tests with the Gtech. We have a stock RS with us, now all we need is Pete's modded RS. Pete, let us know if you are up to it with the silver one you have here.

turboindia · 5th December 2005, 14:05

Auto car meesed it up alright. They had only wrong figures and they had the wrong ones published. We have no say in these. But we know the truth and we will be glad to give you the demo car in Mumbai but it is not finished fully and should be ready in the next weeks. I'll let you know as soon as that car is done.

Also BS Motoring carried a review and they had the timings better. Guess it all depends on so many things. All I know is the car is faster than all they have written. I guess you'll be able to prove it R-tech

Rtech · 5th December 2005, 14:17

Sounds like a plan. Let us know when the car is ready Pete.

turboindia · 5th December 2005, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtech

Sounds like a plan. Let us know when the car is ready Pete.

Done will keep you posted,

Deeps · 5th December 2005, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtech

Maybe we should do our own tests with the Gtech.

What gadgets do the mags use? Anyone

happen to know?

Rtech · 5th December 2005, 15:35

They use the Vbox testing equipment. GPS based.

But, the results from the Gtech were barely 0.1 away from their results.

Shan2nu · 5th December 2005, 15:39

Quote:

What gadgets do the mags use? Anyone happen to know?

Racelogic Vbox II

Shan2nu

Deeps · 5th December 2005, 15:42

ok, thanks for info Rtech and Shan.

And i just noticed...the times posted are in the wet. Why the hell would they do that? And Pete had no say in this?

4th December 2005, 00:08	#1
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Autocar goofs-up acceleration figures...twice in a row? In the modifications section of the Nov 2005 issue (Page 106), Autocar had tested the 235bhp Skoda RS, tuned by Pete's. Now, the acceleration figures in that issue were as follows : Kmph -- Stock RS -- Moded RS (wet) 10 -- 0.69 -- 0.88 20 -- 1.13 -- 2.19 30 -- 1.69 -- 3.12 40 -- 2.28 -- 3.70 50 -- 2.95 -- 4.31 60 -- 3.70 -- 5.00 70 -- 4.74 -- 5.95 80 -- 5.80 -- 6.98 90 -- 6.98 -- 8.02 100 -- 8.30 -- 9.11 110 -- 9.93 -- 9.68 120 -- 11.74 -- 9.70 130 -- 13.62 -- 9.72 140 -- 15.85 -- 15.90 150 -- 18.55 -- 17.65 160 -- 22.23 -- 20.79 In this months issue (December 2005 - Page 9), this is what they've printed. Erratum The acceleration table in the "Modifications" article in the November 2005 issue inadvertently carried jumbled-up figures. They should have read as : Kmph -- Stock RS -- Moded RS (wet) 10 -- 0.55 -- 0.88 20 -- 1.05 -- 2.19 30 -- 1.78 -- 3.12 40 -- 2.46 -- 3.70 50 -- 3.18 -- 4.31 60 -- 3.99 -- 5.00 70 -- 5.19 -- 5.95 80 -- 6.32 -- 6.98 90 -- 7.63 -- 8.02 100 -- 9.06 -- 9.11 110 -- 10.76 -- 9.68 120 -- 12.95 -- 9.70 130 -- 15.20 -- 9.72 140 -- 17.62 -- 15.90 150 -- 20.50 -- 17.65 160 -- 24.12 -- 20.79 Ok, so they've corrected the figures for the Stock RS but, look at the acceleration on the moded one. 100-130kmph takes just 0.61 secs where as, 130-140kmph takes 6.18 secs!!!!!. 3.76 secs lower than a Stock RS????? I have never heard of any car with such in-consistant acceleration figures. This is practically, or even technically not possible. I believe the acc figures between 100 and 130kmph need to be checked again. Shan2nu
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4th December 2005, 00:39	#2
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,732 Times View My Garage	I saw that article. Could'nt they have waited for the rain to clear up. ...or driven 100 kms to where there is no rain. Not the kind of PR Pete needs.
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4th December 2005, 00:49	#3
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	well, even if the road was wet, i don't think you can manage that sort of timings- unless you are deliberately slipping the clutch in third and taking it slow; but then, it doesn't count as an acceleration run, and the figures are only academic- taken just for the sake of publishing.
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4th December 2005, 00:57	#4
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	The way i see it, the figures for the Moded RS should have read as follows : Kmph -- Moded RS 100 -- 9.11 110 -- 10.68 120 -- 11.70 130 -- 13.72 140 -- 15.90 Shan2nu
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4th December 2005, 11:32	#6
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,531 Thanked: 3,098 Times	These Autocar figures are all crap. I dont trust any of the Stock vs modd Skoda figures, new or old.
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5th December 2005, 12:18	#7
Abhay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 727 Thanked: 11 Times	110 -- 10.76 -- 9.68 120 -- 12.95 -- 9.70 130 -- 15.20 -- 9.72 110-130 in 0.04 secs ? :O weird to say the least...
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5th December 2005, 12:31	#8
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 365 Times View My Garage	Maybe we should do our own tests with the Gtech. We have a stock RS with us, now all we need is Pete's modded RS. Pete, let us know if you are up to it with the silver one you have here.
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5th December 2005, 14:05	#9
turboindia BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cochin Posts: 253 Thanked: 4 Times	Auto car meesed it up alright. They had only wrong figures and they had the wrong ones published. We have no say in these. But we know the truth and we will be glad to give you the demo car in Mumbai but it is not finished fully and should be ready in the next weeks. I'll let you know as soon as that car is done. Also BS Motoring carried a review and they had the timings better. Guess it all depends on so many things. All I know is the car is faster than all they have written. I guess you'll be able to prove it R-tech Last edited by turboindia : 5th December 2005 at 14:06.
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5th December 2005, 14:17	#10
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 365 Times View My Garage	Sounds like a plan. Let us know when the car is ready Pete.
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5th December 2005, 15:35	#13
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 365 Times View My Garage	They use the Vbox testing equipment. GPS based. But, the results from the Gtech were barely 0.1 away from their results.
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5th December 2005, 15:42	#15
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,119 Thanked: 170 Times	ok, thanks for info Rtech and Shan. And i just noticed...the times posted are in the wet. Why the hell would they do that? And Pete had no say in this?
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