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It mentions common rail in the brochure... which means it is direct injection engine.

Yes, earlier TDI engines were not Common Rail engines.

Vista is having two choices of diesel engines TDI( Almost Inhouse) and Quadrajet( From Fiat). Hence they can think of a CR4 engine. But, the NVH and other parameters have to be looked at.

e V2 means electronically controlled. There is more electronic integration in the Engine Control Unit/ Engine Management Systems covering more no. of paramaters. Just had this clarification from one of their service guys.

eV2 is just a gimmik for the refreshed V2 like the indigo cs to eCS.

All V2s since BS3 have ECU controlled 475 IDI diesel motor. The cranking sound is also different as compared to old BS 2 motors.

Any updates on price? Tata need to price it right. 25 + Kmpl for Diesel is great considering Petrol's booming prices. It will be cheaper than running 200 CC bike with average of 25-30 for Petrol ;)

Cab people will surely welcome this car. After all they can earn much more with improved efficiency. With petrol pricing more & more in future, many family users can also think of buying this one. Me already thinking of buying one as a second car at home for wife

What is the efficiency of the Prius? Isnt that the most efficient car in the market today?

That's what I mean. Earlier Indica cars (pre vista) used to have the TDI and DICOR engines. But for a while there were no Dicor vistas. Now with CR4 TML is bringing back the Dicor re-badged as CR4/EV2. Current VISTA only has the TDI diesel variant.

All I am saying is that the CR4 engine will make more sense in VISTA with the additional fuel economy to go with a modern hatch rather than the old gen hatch in case of Indica V2.

If any of you ever wanted to buy a first gen indica to last, now would be a good time. I seriously doubt the CR4's reliablity
nope, vista has the quadrajet only. TDI vistas were discontinued

TDi Vista continue to sell in non-metro cities which do not have BSIV restrictions. :)

Wonder if this car makes sense. It costs 5,00,000 on the road in Bangalore, the same a petrol FIGO and the manufacturer claimed mileage is 17 for city in the brochure!

Why does one have to depress the clutch when starting?Why is necessary?

So if i depress the clutch,crank the engine is it required you have to engage a gear or you depress clutch,crank and release clutch and idle?

Can we have most detailed review in the Industry for this car from GTO / Sid ? please:

It will be really great to verify how the car is in reality. As some mentioned, Vista will make more sense with this kind of engine & can bring more sells for Tata. I am sure that Tata will bring this engine in Vista soon knowing there previous history ;)

No one just has to press the clutch to disengage any gears that may have been preslotted by yourself / the pervious person who parked/stopped the car.

This is a safety feature where in if your car is in gear and given a crank it will not surge/jerk ahead by itself. At times people forget the car is in gear and while standing outside give the key a turn to switch on the AC, electonics etc and the car could jump ahead dangerously.

This is a good thing to have.

I like it. The car loks better now that the arches are gone. The issue with them was that they tended to make the car look even more under-tyred. I think that Tata has ironed out most of the niggles in the DiCOR by now, esp. the oil consumption which was due to head gasket issues.The e-V2 should be once again king of the (diesel hatch) city traffic like the Indica DiCOR was.

Nothing wrong with offering choices to the customer, is there? The Indica brand now has a car for every kind of buyer. Shouldn't that be a good thing? clap:

It's just a safety feature. The car won't crank unless the clutch is depressed. Which means less chance of cranking with the car in gear and hitting something due to the jerking. Some other cars have this feature too. Regardless of whether you're in gear or in neutral, you have to depress the clutch.

Pricing might turn out to be the achilles heel of the e-V2. I mean, my Indigo CS TDi cost 5.08 OTR last year. That and the higher cost of regular service items like oil/fuel filters for the DiCOR vis-a-vis the TDi. Still, if you drive a lot, the lower fuel costs will offset the higher initial cost and the service costs. Service interval is 10K for the DiCOR too, AFAIK.

Depressing the clutch while starting even in neutral will reduce the load on starter motor, and increase the life.

I guess the main concern among the masses may not be the number of variants that the Tata Indica has, but the number of engines in its line-up of cars. As Rameshnanda has suggested, Tata has multiple petrol and diesel engines on the Indica variants. Given the many complaints regarding Tata quality of cars and its service capabilities, the common fear is whether Tata would be in a position to service all these different engines at any one given time. As I see it, the TDI engine is on its way out and Indica TDI owners could well wonder what could be their fate in the next 3-4 years. Making parts available is one thing, making them available "quickly" is quite another. I wonder if Tata dealers have the means to stock key parts of various engines at one time.

Having said that, it is indeed good that Tata has introduced changes in its Indica that could infuse renewed interest in the car. However, many may prefer to wait till the niggles on the first batch of Tata cars are sorted out.