How about bringing back India muscle cars?

Boom Shiva · 16th August 2006, 12:20

I agree, the Isuzu 1.8 is good, but looks puny in that huge engine bay. Look for something bigger.

17th August 2006, 00:24

am really serious abt gettin a conty, but am scared of the running costs...does it require extra care? hows the mileage? running costs? parts? what would u guys suggest? petrol/diesel...in terms of runnin costs etc and performance wise...and also...what is better a stock engine w turbo or new heavy engine??

pls tel

Aditya · 17th August 2006, 00:52

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Originally Posted by vidvai

am really serious abt gettin a conty, but am scared of the running costs...does it require extra care? hows the mileage? running costs? parts? what would u guys suggest? petrol/diesel...in terms of runnin costs etc and performance wise...and also...what is better a stock engine w turbo or new heavy engine??

pls tel

I own and drive a Conti. The car requires extra care. It's not like a Honda City or Maruti Baleno. Fit and finish is pathetic. The electricals need regular attention. Fuel consumption is anywhere between 7 and 10 km/l, depending upon driving conditions and use of the AC. Spare parts are available, but, not very easy to source any more. The stock 1.8L 75bhp Isuzu petrol engine is the one you should go for. It is smooth and torquey.
Don't think of plonking a big V8 in the engine bay unless you do extensive work on the chassis, suspension and brakes.

Ram · 17th August 2006, 09:39

Contessa running costs (meaning cost of fuel) would of course be higher than for a smaller lighter more aerodynamic car. It is a large heavy car. It is 15-feet long, over 5½ feet wide, 1.1 ton car with an 1817 cc 75 bhp Isuzu motor.

And care is something that we all would lavish on our cars, otherwise we wouldn't be Team-BHPians right?

Back in 1999, I used to have a gold 1995 Contessa with a 1970s American-style black stitched vinyl cover pasted on the roof. That girl returned 7-8 km/litre on petrol. The acceleration was good and ride was decent.

Someone who really wants a low maintenance fuel efficient daily-driver, should just go for a Maruti, any Maruti model. They're all reliable and fuel-efficient and well-supported all over the nation.

But a Conty!? A Conty's a Conty's a Conty!!!
A royal rear-wheel drive good-old-days' executive sedan.

With its wide squat double-headlamped looks, it still commands respect and holds its place with the other large executive cars.

And the super-king aftermarket airconditioner with vents for the rear seat does a great job, cooling it frigid!
I've heard of people stiffening the suspension with Tata Sumo springs.

Ram

whatcanthisbe · 17th August 2006, 13:41

drop the vehicle height, re do the wheel wells to wider wheel wells black out the whole car have dual headlamps and a nice throaty v8 witha quad exhaust setup
all i can say is sweet

Boom Shiva · 17th August 2006, 14:17

You can't drop the height...my car used to scrape speedbreakers pretty easily and once the muffler came off.

yeis · 17th August 2006, 16:01

Had been in Gwalior a couple of months back. When came out of station what I saw was sort of dream and was quite unbelievable. I saw an pista-green Ambassador kinda car, shining like new, with alloys and all. Looking great and far better than Amby itself, when got to see its front grill, came to know it was some Mark-IV! Later came to know that it had been HM Amby's forefather long back. Don't sure about the engine, but if it could be modified and had an engine of 100+ hp, it could rock!

Maniac · 27th August 2006, 09:19

i wana buy contessa for myself one day .. i had driven ( not driven exactly) that machine when i was 15 .. from less than 1 km ride . ..

i felt the energy the car was puttin up .. 1 hand on the steer wheel & one on gear & the front Bonnet poping up & u feel like a king of street ..

i donot intend 2 drive the prg. contessa engine but i will swap it (resaerch included ) jus as Ford Rocam tried for his HOnda City .. modieifed ..wat insane devil has pooped up th epic .. really catchy ...

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Originally Posted by Insane Devil

the Pontiac GTO 1966.

vinu99@gmail.co · 30th August 2006, 15:44

I would love to own a Standard 2000 revamped with a powerful engine, say 140+ PS. I Still cherish the dreams of owning one, since my childhood!

team dragstar · 11th December 2006, 00:11

guys wht engines can fit into contis???? i think the mpfi is cracker....anyone drriven it? if we could fit a skoda turbo deisel....maybe the 2 ltr rs engine??????????????? hmmm just a thought

nitrous · 11th December 2006, 00:59

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Originally Posted by lamborghini

Does anyone know where in Mumbai i can get the Isuzu 1.8Lt engine with gearbox and for how much?

Eight thousand rupees.

khanak · 11th December 2006, 01:19

Im a bit confused with this thread....Bring back indian muscle cars? I dont think India had any muscle cars to begin with. However I do feel that we really need to do somthing with the Indian built classics. You hardly get to see any nowdays. Id rather see these cars being restored than modified though a hot rod wouldnt be a bad idea. A Morris Minor would be perfect for this or maybe even a Fiat or an Ambassador. All these cars arent too expensive to purchase and I know that 3.5l Rover v8 engine swaps have been done with Morris Minors abroad. Thats the same engine found on older Land Rover defenders so I guess that wont be too tough to find. The same engines were used in Standard 2000s abroad and produce upto 190bhp. So I guess if someone wants to do a Standard 2000 they can use this engine.
Cheers
Adhish

PS Check this beetle in pakistan out
PakWheels.com : Car show off Volkswagen - Any Model (1970) Nick Name (devi|z passiOn)

devarshi84 · 11th December 2006, 10:29

@khanak its better to mod those cars which cannot be restored. Not everybody has the time and money to restore the cars but modding is a completely different case.

Yusha · 12th December 2006, 02:02

Funny. India never had any muscle cars. Only .0001% of car buying people care about performance. Everybody else looks for FE.

HOTROD · 12th December 2006, 09:05

Nice idea man.will those rugged cars come back

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16th August 2006, 12:20	#61
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 18 Times	I agree, the Isuzu 1.8 is good, but looks puny in that huge engine bay. Look for something bigger.
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17th August 2006, 00:24	#62
vidvai Posts: n/a	am really serious abt gettin a conty, but am scared of the running costs...does it require extra care? hows the mileage? running costs? parts? what would u guys suggest? petrol/diesel...in terms of runnin costs etc and performance wise...and also...what is better a stock engine w turbo or new heavy engine?? pls tel
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17th August 2006, 09:39	#64
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 219 Times View My Garage	Contessa running costs (meaning cost of fuel) would of course be higher than for a smaller lighter more aerodynamic car. It is a large heavy car. It is 15-feet long, over 5½ feet wide, 1.1 ton car with an 1817 cc 75 bhp Isuzu motor. And care is something that we all would lavish on our cars, otherwise we wouldn't be Team-BHPians right? Back in 1999, I used to have a gold 1995 Contessa with a 1970s American-style black stitched vinyl cover pasted on the roof. That girl returned 7-8 km/litre on petrol. The acceleration was good and ride was decent. Someone who really wants a low maintenance fuel efficient daily-driver, should just go for a Maruti, any Maruti model. They're all reliable and fuel-efficient and well-supported all over the nation. But a Conty!? A Conty's a Conty's a Conty!!! A royal rear-wheel drive good-old-days' executive sedan. With its wide squat double-headlamped looks, it still commands respect and holds its place with the other large executive cars. And the super-king aftermarket airconditioner with vents for the rear seat does a great job, cooling it frigid! I've heard of people stiffening the suspension with Tata Sumo springs. Ram
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17th August 2006, 13:41	#65
whatcanthisbe BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: http://www.wandering-online.com Posts: 499 Thanked: 6 Times	drop the vehicle height, re do the wheel wells to wider wheel wells black out the whole car have dual headlamps and a nice throaty v8 witha quad exhaust setup all i can say is sweet
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17th August 2006, 14:17	#66
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 18 Times	You can't drop the height...my car used to scrape speedbreakers pretty easily and once the muffler came off.
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17th August 2006, 16:01	#67
yeis BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 238 Thanked: 4 Times	Had been in Gwalior a couple of months back. When came out of station what I saw was sort of dream and was quite unbelievable. I saw an pista-green Ambassador kinda car, shining like new, with alloys and all. Looking great and far better than Amby itself, when got to see its front grill, came to know it was some Mark-IV! Later came to know that it had been HM Amby's forefather long back. Don't sure about the engine, but if it could be modified and had an engine of 100+ hp, it could rock!
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30th August 2006, 15:44	#69
vinu99@gmail.co BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 109 Thanked: 39 Times	I would love to own a Standard 2000 revamped with a powerful engine, say 140+ PS. I Still cherish the dreams of owning one, since my childhood!
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11th December 2006, 00:11	#70
team dragstar BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 80 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	guys wht engines can fit into contis???? i think the mpfi is cracker....anyone drriven it? if we could fit a skoda turbo deisel....maybe the 2 ltr rs engine??????????????? hmmm just a thought Last edited by team dragstar : 11th December 2006 at 00:24.
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11th December 2006, 01:19	#72
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	Im a bit confused with this thread....Bring back indian muscle cars? I dont think India had any muscle cars to begin with. However I do feel that we really need to do somthing with the Indian built classics. You hardly get to see any nowdays. Id rather see these cars being restored than modified though a hot rod wouldnt be a bad idea. A Morris Minor would be perfect for this or maybe even a Fiat or an Ambassador. All these cars arent too expensive to purchase and I know that 3.5l Rover v8 engine swaps have been done with Morris Minors abroad. Thats the same engine found on older Land Rover defenders so I guess that wont be too tough to find. The same engines were used in Standard 2000s abroad and produce upto 190bhp. So I guess if someone wants to do a Standard 2000 they can use this engine. Cheers Adhish PS Check this beetle in pakistan out PakWheels.com : Car show off Volkswagen - Any Model (1970) Nick Name (devi\|z passiOn) Last edited by khanak : 11th December 2006 at 01:27.
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11th December 2006, 10:29	#73
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	@khanak its better to mod those cars which cannot be restored. Not everybody has the time and money to restore the cars but modding is a completely different case.
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12th December 2006, 02:02	#74
Yusha BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 222 Thanked: 232 Times	Funny. India never had any muscle cars. Only .0001% of car buying people care about performance. Everybody else looks for FE.
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12th December 2006, 09:05	#75
HOTROD BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 134 Thanked: 181 Times	Nice idea man.will those rugged cars come back
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