[shortbread]

2 magazines that have conducted emergency brake tests on Suzuki Celerio (Made at Suzuki's Rayang, Thailand factory) have failed a straightforward emergency brake test from 80 mph.

Suzuki Celerio sales have been suspended in the UK and Republic or Ireland with immediate effect, and all customers advised not to drive their cars, after two test vehicles suffered total brake failure during controlled tests by Autocar and What Car?.

The cause of the loss of braking power - which occurred during 80mph braking tests at Millbrook Proving Ground - is currently being investigated by both Suzuki GB and representatives from Suzuki Motor Corporation in Japan, who flew to the UK following initial investigations in to the incidents.

A Suzuki GB statement said: "With reference to the condition experienced when carrying out an emergency braking test by a journalist from Autocar magazine on January 30, Suzuki is carrying out an immediate investigation into the cause of this condition.

source: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...-autocar-tests

[commonman]

+1 to this . As a Celerio owner, I feel the brakes lack teeth. Maruti is playing spoilsport for a long time. One day things will come out in the open. I think they themselves know this issue. If you check the dealers, they will not push for the sale of Celerios and you can find 6 month old vehicles in the stock, which they sell to unsuspecting customers (which is at your own risk). At the same time they are very happy to promote K10, which is a smaller vehicle with the same braking system (!). God save the people in India.

[Biraj]

This part is quite perplexing. "Autocar understands that focus of the investigations is on right-hand-drive versions of the Celerio, but that cars sold in Japan, India and Thailand are not affected. "The Celerio model has been on sale in India and Thailand since 2014 and so far Suzuki has no prior experience or knowledge of this phenomenon," concluded the official release."

If they don't have prior experience or knowledge, then it should be a matter for testing or investigation, they shouldn't make a statement that cars in these markets are not affected. Are they waiting for something terrible to happen to someone and then dismiss it in the name of poor driving technique, etc? If two cars manufactured in India fail the test, then the cars in India should definitely be checked. I don't think the quality of components in Indian version will be any better than what's there in the UK version.

[FourWheelDrift]

For a thorough safeguard for consumers, shouldn't Autocar India replicate this test at an appropriate test location in India, on an India-spec Celerio and publish the test results ?

[StarScream]

So there is a cost to Maruti's cheapness (pun intended)!

[JayPrashanth]

Originally Posted by shortbread

2 magazines that have conducted emergency brake tests on Suzuki Celerio (Made at Maruti's factories) have failed a straightforward emergency brake test from 80 kmph.



source: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...-autocar-tests

The UK-spec Suzuki Celerio does NOT roll out from Maruti factories. It is sourced from Rayong, Thailand. Pulling Maruti Suzuki into the picture is unnecessary here.

Cheers,

Jay

Mod Note: Thanks for this. Opening post has been updated
Please restrict discussion to the UK Celerio unless there is evidence suggesting otherwise.

[jetti]

I don't understand this part:

Autocar understands that focus of the investigations is on right-hand-drive versions of the Celerio and includes those sold in the UK, the Republic of Ireland, Australia and New Zealand. Cars sold in Japan, India and Thailand are not affected, according to the manufacturer.

Cars sold in India and Japan are also right-hand-drive just like UK, Ireland. So, why are they being excluded. If its something different different in the braking system then it makes sense, but right-hand-drive is something common to all these countries.

[noopster]

Originally Posted by jetti

I don't understand this part:

Cars sold in India and Japan are also right-hand-drive just like UK, Ireland. So, why are they being excluded. If its something different different in the braking system then it makes sense, but right-hand-drive is something common to all these countries.

Place of manufacture could be the difference. The article clearly says the UK/Ireland ones are manufactured in Rayang. However it's puzzling why the Thai cars are not affected then

[Chetan_Rao]

Originally Posted by noopster

Place of manufacture could be the difference. The article clearly says the UK/Ireland ones are manufactured in Rayang. However it's puzzling why the Thai cars are not affected then

Unless the fault is isolated to a specific production run (likely) or to a specific component supplier that's only used in one manufacturing location (unlikely for an economy car), it would make better sense for Suzuki to NOT avoid taking precautions in other markets, esp. India that accounts for a major chunk of their global sales.

P.S. The OP needs a correction to the speed unit in the first sentence. The report quotes test speeds of 80mph, not kmph. I've reported the post.

[Captain Slow]

The report does mention 80Mph? Thats close to 130kmph ! very doable in our country. Someone should test the Indian Celerio under similar situations.
During the Team-bhp review did any mod get a chance to push the car to 130 + Kmph?
From what it seems the fault is somewhere in the "Brake Valve Distributor"

Hope they fix this issue soon.

[Ajaybiz]

Happy to see them facing all this, when I complained about swift brakes issue they never listened to me and did one test of stopping the vehicle from 80 kmph to zero under certain distance and said that's our standard and we can't compare our cars with other manufacturer, these jokers are in team bhp and closely monitoring.
Happy that I am moving out of their pathetic cars and zero safety rated cars.

[shortbread]

Originally Posted by JayPrashanth

The UK-spec Suzuki Celerio does NOT roll out from Maruti factories. It is sourced from Rayong, Thailand. Pulling Maruti Suzuki into the picture is unnecessary here.

Cheers,

Jay

Mod Note: Thanks for this. Opening post has been updated
Please restrict discussion to the UK Celerio unless there is evidence suggesting otherwise.

Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao

P.S. The OP needs a correction to the speed unit in the first sentence. The report quotes test speeds of 80mph, not kmph. I've reported the post.

Originally Posted by Captain Slow

The report does mention 80Mph? Thats close to 130kmph ! very doable in our country. Someone should test the Indian Celerio under similar situations.
During the Team-bhp review did any mod get a chance to push the car to 130 + Kmph?
From what it seems the fault is somewhere in the "Brake Valve Distributor"

Hope they fix this issue soon.

Apologies guys, my bad. Should aim better before I shoot next time.

But its still alarming nonetheless. Tbh Maruti made exports were never flagged in UK earlier for such issues, hence the shock.

[rajeev k]

BBC reports that the recall is issued in four countries;

"With immediate effect, Suzuki is recalling its UK Celerio models that went on official sale to the public on February 1st,"
"This safety recall relates to retraction of the brake pedal and affects right hand drive vehicles for UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand.

Link http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31093206

[shortbread]

Originally Posted by rajeev k

BBC reports that the recall is issued in four countries;

Link http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31093206

Its made in Thailand, sold in Thailand and exported from Thailand. But somehow the recall does not include Thailand. Neither have Suzuki given an explanation for the same.

India Celerio's seem safe though, that's a positive I guess.

[CliffHanger]

Originally Posted by JayPrashanth

The UK-spec Suzuki Celerio does NOT roll out from Maruti factories. It is sourced from Rayong, Thailand. Pulling Maruti Suzuki into the picture is unnecessary here.

Cheers,

Jay

Sorry, I don't understand the point.

Celerio is being sold in India too and the reasons for the failure is still unknown.

I request all Celerio owners in India to exercise caution!