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Old 13th December 2006, 11:57   #1
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Default 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo Mission 400 Plus by Jurgen Alzen Motorsport

as the title suggests and here are the specs for it:
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EngineType: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement cu in (cc): 232 (3800)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 1054(776) / 7700
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 760(1030) / 5800
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Driveline: Rear Wheel Drive
Top Speed mph (km/h): > 250 (400)

Porsche 911 Turbo Mission 400 Plus by Jurgen Alzen Motorsport - RSportsCars.com

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Old 13th December 2006, 12:16   #2
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Default (A) porsche fan's dream come true......

Whoa!!! They should put this in production!!! I realised the import of the mission '400' after reading the article......Though the max-torque RPM has increased from 1950 (Thank you VGTs) to 5800 with conventional waste gates.....but still....my mouth has'nt stopped watering yet....!

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theres gonna be a brand new porsche in 2009(i think). the 998..
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As far as I have gathered knowledge on the 998s, it seems that the 998s have been delayed until 2010 or even 2011.
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anybody else think these horsepower wars are pointless?
i love the new turbo and i love the fact that this one is RWD, but do we really need 1000hp. nevermind, this is an enthusiasts forum afterall.
personally, i'd rather take the cayman s with some upgrades.
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Old 13th December 2006, 21:45   #6
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just imagine a 1000 bhp rwd with kerb weight of around 1500kgs i am looking at a wheelie but i would take the carrera gt over any porsche.
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I like the bodykit, but why a Porsche? I'm sure a 599 or an LP 640 would provide a more stable platform to cross 400 mph.
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You do mean 400 kmph, nah?

Why isn't the 997 as stable as a 599 or a LP 640? The 9ff Turbo did 242 mph with great ease a couple of years back. This is only 8 more mph. On the contrary, I haven't come across any record breaking Ferraris or Lambos. There was a Koenig Ferrari something, quite a few years back.

If anything the 997 Turbo in stock shape would cheat the wind better at a Cd of 0.31, than the Murcie's Cd of 0.33 and the 599's Cd of 0.336. And this one has a lowered roofline and reduced frontal surface area.

I'd sure be interested to know what tyres are going to take them to 400 kmph though.
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I'm off to look for some mayo to eat my words with.

Just wondering, does this car have an oil-cooled engine with VVT and shot-peened pistons?!
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You do mean 400 kmph, nah?

Why isn't the 997 as stable as a 599 or a LP 640? The 9ff Turbo did 242 mph with great ease a couple of years back. This is only 8 more mph. On the contrary, I haven't come across any record breaking Ferraris or Lambos. There was a Koenig Ferrari something, quite a few years back.

If anything the 997 Turbo in stock shape would cheat the wind better at a Cd of 0.31, than the Murcie's Cd of 0.33 and the 599's Cd of 0.336. And this one has a lowered roofline and reduced frontal surface area.

I'd sure be interested to know what tyres are going to take them to 400 kmph though.
ported...to cheat the wind i believe you need to know the front area and then multiply by the cd to get which is more aero dynamic, so porsche's lower cd doesnt mean its more aero...but i think 911 turbo is just as good a platform. The only thing is that the 599 and murci being much heavier might make more sense, but to tune those bad@$$es you need a lot of money and ppl willing to go with you on the madness, you might not find that many in ferrari and lambo world, but surely you will find a lot in the porsche cult..

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ported...to cheat the wind i believe you need to know the front area and then multiply by the cd to get which is more aero dynamic, so porsche's lower cd doesnt mean its more aero...
Ok, what I know is that, Cd is the measure of aerodynamic efficiency, as in how streamlined the shape is provide path of least resistance for air flowing around it. Then there is something called Air Resistance measured drag in lbs, which is equal to Frontal Area x Cd x (Velocity)^2. It is still directly proportional to the Cd of the car.

Now coming to figures, the frontal area for the 599 is 2.10 m^2 and that for the 997TT is 2.04 m^2. There are no figures available for the Murcie, but it is considerably wider than the 997TT (1852 mm) and the 599GTB (1962 mm) at 2045 mm. That's got to stand for something.
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The only thing is that the 599 and murci being much heavier might make more sense
Sorry , I beg to differ over here , being a heavier car doesnt mean the car has to exactly handle well at high speeds , FRom what I know its the downforce which decides on stability , I may be wrong here , please correct me If I am.So accordingly air flow through the body will affect the stability to a great extent like in F1.

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they should have modded the porsche nor a ferari or lambo but a saleen s7 tt or a shelby gt500 that would have rocked.
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Ok, what I know is that, Cd is the measure of aerodynamic efficiency, as in how streamlined the shape is provide path of least resistance for air flowing around it. Then there is something called Air Resistance measured drag in lbs, which is equal to Frontal Area x Cd x (Velocity)^2. It is still directly proportional to the Cd of the car.

Now coming to figures, the frontal area for the 599 is 2.10 m^2 and that for the 997TT is 2.04 m^2. There are no figures available for the Murcie, but it is considerably wider than the 997TT (1852 mm) and the 599GTB (1962 mm) at 2045 mm. That's got to stand for something.
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He he
I had the same topic including the same formula in my Fluid Mechanics 2 exam couple of days back. It was one of the easier questions in the exam. What a coincidence.
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