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Old 2nd August 2023, 12:56   #31
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2024 Toyota Land Cruiser overview

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Respect to Toyota for realising they painted themselves into a corner with a super expensive product that nobody was really buying. I say this because Toyota and most of the japanese manufacturers take an age to realise where the market is, and by then it's too late. Taking such an iconic nameplate back to a reasonable price point is a huge call and shows that even Toyota cannot bury its head in the sand for too long. They are on the right track with this, let's hope the market responds well. And the return to their iconic styling can only help.

Great going Toyota. Let's hope this mentality about being a bit more realistic filters down to India eventually.

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Land Cruiser for Americas, in pics: Link

Seven different colors will be available including Black, Ice Cap, Wind Chill Pearl, Underground, Meteor Shower, Trail Dust, and Heritage Blue. Customers can also get a two-tone exterior that features either Trail Dust or Heritage Blue paired with a Grayscape roof.

Customers looking for something more rugged can opt for the Land Cruiser First Edition. Only 5,000 units will be available and they’re notable for featuring a front skid plate, rock rails, and a roof rack. The range-topping model also sports round headlights, a tailgate light, mudflaps, and a “back door guard.”

Buyers looking for more luxury can opt for a premium package, which adds heated and ventilated leather seats, a head-up display, and a 14-speaker JBL premium audio system. The package also includes a digital rearview mirror and a moonroof.

Toyota didn’t say much about the interior of the First Edition, but it features leather seats as well as “First Edition” logos embossed on the door panels. Buyers will also receive a key glove with unique stitching.

Speaking of equipment, the 2024 Land Cruiser comes standard with the Toyota Safety Sense 3.0 suite of driver assistance systems. It includes Full-Speed Range Dynamic Radar Cruise Control, Lane Tracing Assist (Lane Centering), and a Pre-Collision System with Pedestrian Detection. They’re joined by Automatic High Beams, Road Sign Assist, Proactive Driving Assist, and Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist. Rounding out the highlights are a Blind Spot Monitor and Rear Cross Traffic Alert.

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Old 2nd August 2023, 14:37   #34
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2024 Toyota Land Cruiser diesel debuts in Europe, mild hybrid due 2025.

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It's the first Land Cruiser to get electric power steering and the first Toyota to offer a disconnecting front anti-roll bar.
- Toyota’s all-new Land Cruiser focuses on its traditional strengths of quality, durability, and reliability to tackle the toughest conditions
- New model combines Land Cruiser’s legendary DNA with new technologies to deliver exceptional performance on and off-road
- New body-on-frame GA-F platform is the foundation for significant increases in body and frame rigidity, improving response, ride and handling
- First Land Cruiser to adopt electric power steering and new disconnecting anti-roll bar system
- 2.8-litre diesel engine for optimal balance of fuel efficiency and performance – electrified version with 48-Volt mild hybrid technology available in early 2025.


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The interior offers a choice of five or seven-seat configurations, with a design that evokes the strength and functionality of an authentic off-roader. This is witnessed in details such as the horizontally arranged instrument panel and switches that are shaped for easy operation, even when driving over challenging terrain.

The driver’s all-round visibility has been given priority, helped by the low-set cowl, horizontal instrument panel and a lowered belt line that allows deeper side windows to be fitted.
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Retaining the "Prado" name in some markets, the new diesel-fueled Land Cruiser will be able to tow 3,500 kilograms (7,716 pounds). The "oil burner" is going to be the only engine available at launch in Western Europe but Toyota says a 48V mild-hybrid powertrain will follow in early 2025. Meanwhile, the diesel LC is slated to go on sale in October this year with a First Edition limited to about 3,000 examples. As with the US variant, the off-roader will be sold with round and rectangular headlights as visual nods to past LCs

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Depending on the region, the Land Cruiser "250" will be available with additional powertrains beyond the hybrid, mild-hybrid, and the diesel. In Eastern and Western Europe along with the Middle East, Toyota is going to offer a turbocharged 2.4-liter gasoline engine with 278 hp and 430 Nm (316 lb-ft). In addition, Eastern Europe and Japan will also get a naturally aspirated 2.7-liter gasoline engine rated at 161 hp and 246 Nm (181 lb-ft).
Source: Toyota

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Old 2nd August 2023, 15:06   #35
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So much inspiration from the Bronco, imo. Toyota should bring this to India as well but seriously hope they start pricing their products better.
We're getting the Fortuner at a price at which the Prado should be offered. The market is crazy overpriced these days but Toyota is amplifying that at least by 1.5 across their portfolio.
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Looks like an amalgamation of the Bronco, Defender and a little bit of Discovery 4 (specifically at the rear). But looks good nonetheless!
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2024 Toyota Prado retains its name for Australia. Due in mid 2024.

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It will be known as the LandCruiser 250 Series in Japan – to sit below the full-size 300 Series – but it will retain the Prado name in Australia.

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There will a choice of a familiar 2.8-litre turbo-diesel four-cylinder now with 48-volt mild-hybrid assistance – or for the first time in the history of the LandCruiser badge, a full hybrid, combining a 2.4-litre turbo four-cylinder petrol engine with electric motors.

But the turbo-petrol engine – available in hybrid and non-hybrid forms – will not be available in Australia, at least at launch.


there will be two appearances for the Toyota Prado: one with circular headlights inspired by the LandCruiser 70 Series, or with more contemporary, slim rectangular headlights.

Both will be matched with matte black plastic highlights and 'TOYOTA' script across the mesh front grille.

However only the rectangular headlights are bound for local showrooms in Australia.

The wheelbase now matches the full-size LandCruiser 300 Series – for improved interior space – and the Prado is only 55mm shorter in overall length, no narrower and 80mm lower than its larger sibling.

The new 'Prado' and Lexus GX share their body shell, proportions and doors – but are differentiated through unique front and rear fascias, lights and wheel designs.

Under the bonnet the LandCruiser Prado is due to offer one engine in Australia – a familiar 2.8-litre turbocharged four-cylinder diesel.
The outputs of 150kW and 500Nm carry over from the old model, however the engine gains 48-volt mild-hybrid assistance in Australia, allowing the car to coast with the engine off under low load, or save a small amount of fuel under acceleration.

It is now matched with an eight-speed automatic transmission – up from six speeds – with full-time four-wheel drive.

A regular version of the engine with the same outputs but no mild-hybrid system will be sold in Western and Eastern Europe, Japan and the Middle East.

The headline addition is a 2.4-litre turbocharged four-cylinder petrol engine from Lexus luxury SUVs, matched with an eight-speed automatic transmission and full-time 4WD.

It will be available without hybrid assistance for outputs of 207kW and 430Nm, sold in the Middle East and Eastern Europe – while a full hybrid version (not mild-hybrid) will be available in North America and China with 243kW and 630Nm.

Toyota says the body and frame are 30 per cent more rigid than before, and frame rigidity alone is up 50 per cent.

There remains double-wishbone front and four-link, rigid-axle, coil-spring rear suspension, while the power steering is now electric, and wheels up to 20 inches in diameter are available.

Toyota in the US quotes a 31-degree approach angle, 22-degree departure angle, 25-degree breakover angle and 221mm of ground clearance.


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2024 Toyota Land Cruiser diesel debuts in Europe, mild hybrid due 2025.
Nerdy observation from my part, but looks like the Europe version doesn't get the volume knob? The US market base version (1958?) has the volume knob near the screen. The other version has the volume knob at a weird higher position. But the one shown by Toyota Europe doesn't have any volume knobs. Toyota's market specific changes are super weird.

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So much inspiration from the Bronco, imo. Toyota should bring this to India as well but seriously hope they start pricing their products better.
We're getting the Fortuner at a price at which the Prado should be offered. The market is crazy overpriced these days but Toyota is amplifying that at least by 1.5 across their portfolio.
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Looks like an amalgamation of the Bronco, Defender and a little bit of Discovery 4 (specifically at the rear). But looks good nonetheless!
Toyota can have plenty of inspirations from its own previous vehicles. Can see lots of comments in social media about taking inspiration from Defender and Bronco. Round headlights and boxy upright looks are not anything new. If at all, the FJ Cruiser has been around since the late 2000s when Land Rover and Ford were busy softening their SUV styling to make them urbane.

Pricing- With the Fortuner crossing 60 lakhs and definitely pushing upwards and the full fat LC300 at 2-2.5 crores, we would fooling ourselves by expecting the Prado to be priced anything below 1 crore in India.
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5. 2TR-FE 2.7-liter gasoline 6 Super-ECT -163 PS-246 N・m planned for Eastern Europe, Japan, etc. Surprised that the 2.7l lump made it to the next gen and not the 4.0l V6. Also wonder why they don't mention the Middle East markets getting the 2.7l? It is the bread and butter version of the Prados sold in GCC markets.
Most GCC markets have let go of the 2.7 in the Prado and rightly so. It was slow and inefficient for the most part. And lacked refinement too.

Good riddance I'd say. Only Fortuner is the last of the cars with the 2.7
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Here is a chart explaining the evolution of Land Cruiser, Prado and the 70 series for those who are curious

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I think if Toyota launches this vehicle at 80L-85L in India (which is very much doable), it’s going to be a Runaway success
But alas, Toyota is going to launch it at 1 cr looking at the trend!
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I'll empty my pockets for the 70 series pickup. It really looks like an iconic piece of design and I have a feeling that it might get the G class status given its popularity in markets like Australia and GCC. I really hope Toyota starts taking the indian market more seriously and launch these in India or better still assemble them at least as CKD.
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The evolution of Land Cruiser Prado through the years!

The new ToyotaLandCruiser250 makes part of the Prado family, the midsize-SUV line of products that directly descends from the J45. The Prado is a popular model in the Middle East, Africa, some countries of Latam. With latest gen, the model will come back to North America.

The Prado belongs to the light duty lineup of the Land Cruiser family. It has been in the market since 1990, when Toyota introduced a 5-door version of the J70. The 5th generation breaks with the past: +rough/boxy/off-road. It aims to make use of the recent off-road SUVs trend.

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I think this will make it to India at about 1.2 crore. Looking at the number of Defenders I see on road today, there is no doubt that it will be a run away success. I hope there is a seven seater in plans. I could not find one mentioned anywhere. Or has the hybrid battery made the seven seater infeasible ?
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-- I hope there is a seven seater in plans. I could not find one mentioned anywhere. Or has the hybrid battery made the seven seater infeasible ?
Toyota 4Runner is the 7-seater for the Americas.

Price, powertrains, and equipment set to separate Land Cruiser from next Toyota 4Runner.

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the Land Cruiser is offered exclusively with a five-seat configuration in the United States. The current 4Runner, on the other hand, offers a fold-flat third-row and that should continue in the next-generation.
While it’s clear the two models will be different, they’ll have plenty in common including the body-on-frame TNGA-F platform. This means they’ll both be capable SUVs, but the Land Cruiser will be positioned as a premium entry with more standard capability. Speaking of which, the model has a full-time four-wheel drive system, a center locking differential, and an electronic locking rear differential.

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