Mercedes Benz and Aston Martin to join hands?

Aditya · 24th October 2008, 16:13

Mercedes Benz and Aston Martin are in talks to sign a €300m deal.
This deal will see Aston Martin get twin turbo V12 powerplants from MB instead of the current Ford based engines used in their cars and benefit from Merc's R&D. In return, future Maybachs will be designed and engineered by AM.
Many new models including SUVs and Hybrids might come come our way as a result of this collaboration.
Source: CAR

FlyingSpur · 24th October 2008, 16:20

NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!

Oh wait. Actually I hate them both. What do I care. I guess they'll come up with something interesting. I'll have my Scud and my Spur till then, thank you.

DKG · 24th October 2008, 16:27

Oddly when I first heard of the Chrysler Merc marriage I knew it was doomed from the start. They were poles apart in every sense of the word and I really wonder what either saw as common. Glad that disastrous alliance ended

Merc and Aston sound nice. Both can at best be described as beefy when it comes to performance characteristics. The old Vantage under hard acceleration sounded like a rhino in full snort. Merc V8's have a similar gutteral sound too.

Mercedes has also moved so far away from something that can be genuinely considered sporty. Instead of reinventing a carefully crafted brand identity it would be easier to infuse all the sportiness it wants through the Aston brand. Good move

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Nitronium · 24th October 2008, 16:32

Just imagine. The technology of a Merc with the sex appeal of an AM

I'm drooling already!!

In the end though, it'll be better styled Mercs, and AM's with better engines.

aniguchisan · 24th October 2008, 17:14

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Originally Posted by flyingspur

NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!

Oh wait. Actually I hate them both. What do I care. I guess they'll come up with something interesting. I'll have my Scud and my Spur till then, thank you.

If the hate is so strong, isn't it time you change the pic in your public profile?

hanmust · 24th October 2008, 17:41

I beleive it as a wise move by both the brands. Merc can spread their R&D cost over, especially on developing the high performance engines like the above mentioned twin turbo V12 which is expected to power the next-gen S600 & upcomg Maybach (if Daimler decide not to drop the brand).

Brabus E V12 · 24th October 2008, 17:47

Now here's a thought....completely donuts.... What a sight it would be if we have a Formula 1 team called

TEAMM F1 - The Extraordinary Aston Martin Mercedes F1

abhinav.gupta88 · 24th October 2008, 18:03

No.
For God's sake

Aston Martin makes beautiful cars with amazing noise.
Mercs are more sophisticated and chauffer-driven ( not the sports variants of course)

khanak · 24th October 2008, 18:38

Weren't Mercedes and BMW talking about some engine sharing deal as well? I guess this could really benefit the companies financially. They can pool in their resources and have better R&D and hopefully in the end save a tonne of money as well.

iraghava · 24th October 2008, 18:54

That deal is done. Read here: PistonHeads Headlines

DKG · 24th October 2008, 22:15

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Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

Aston Martin makes beautiful cars with amazing noise.
Mercs are more sophisticated and chauffer-driven ( not the sports variants of course)

Listen to a AMG SL accelerate. That V8 sounds divine.

speedzak · 25th October 2008, 00:00

The deal is done?
We can expect lots of fireworks from them in terms of some very good cars.
Imagine a Merc V12 sound in a Rapide!

FlyingSpur · 25th October 2008, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniguchisan

If the hate is so strong, isn't it time you change the pic in your public profile?

That isn't a stock/standard SL. And it had wierd rims, but I thought they (FabDesign) did a rather good job overall with the execution of their theme. BTW, the last Merc that interested me was the W220 S and the prev-gen SL55.

Someone likes doing their research, eh

GTO · 25th October 2008, 17:07

How is this different from the many engine-supply and design-outsource deals? I don't think too much is going to change. Except that we can hope for a good looking Maybach.

aniguchisan · 25th October 2008, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingspur

That isn't a stock/standard SL. And it had wierd rims, but I thought they (FabDesign) did a rather good job overall with the execution of their theme. BTW, the last Merc that interested me was the W220 S and the prev-gen SL55.

Someone likes doing their research, eh

Most certainly, sir. What is a comment without the prior backing?

The R230 is a gem though, no doubt. Terrible wheels on the FabDesign SL though.

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DKG Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 3,711 Thanked: 1,389 Times View My Garage	Oddly when I first heard of the Chrysler Merc marriage I knew it was doomed from the start. They were poles apart in every sense of the word and I really wonder what either saw as common. Glad that disastrous alliance ended Merc and Aston sound nice. Both can at best be described as beefy when it comes to performance characteristics. The old Vantage under hard acceleration sounded like a rhino in full snort. Merc V8's have a similar gutteral sound too. Mercedes has also moved so far away from something that can be genuinely considered sporty. Instead of reinventing a carefully crafted brand identity it would be easier to infuse all the sportiness it wants through the Aston brand. Good move . Last edited by DKG : 24th October 2008 at 16:29.
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24th October 2008, 16:32	#4
Nitronium BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 407 Thanked: 93 Times	Just imagine. The technology of a Merc with the sex appeal of an AM I'm drooling already!! In the end though, it'll be better styled Mercs, and AM's with better engines.
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24th October 2008, 17:41	#6
hanmust Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Calicut Posts: 2,481 Thanked: 262 Times View My Garage	I beleive it as a wise move by both the brands. Merc can spread their R&D cost over, especially on developing the high performance engines like the above mentioned twin turbo V12 which is expected to power the next-gen S600 & upcomg Maybach (if Daimler decide not to drop the brand).
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24th October 2008, 17:47	#7
Brabus E V12 BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: London/NewDelhi Posts: 392 Thanked: 56 Times	Now here's a thought....completely donuts.... What a sight it would be if we have a Formula 1 team called TEAMM F1 - The Extraordinary Aston Martin Mercedes F1
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24th October 2008, 18:03	#8
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	No. For God's sake Aston Martin makes beautiful cars with amazing noise. Mercs are more sophisticated and chauffer-driven ( not the sports variants of course)
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24th October 2008, 18:38	#9
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	Weren't Mercedes and BMW talking about some engine sharing deal as well? I guess this could really benefit the companies financially. They can pool in their resources and have better R&D and hopefully in the end save a tonne of money as well.
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24th October 2008, 18:54	#10
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	That deal is done. Read here: PistonHeads Headlines
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speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	The deal is done? We can expect lots of fireworks from them in terms of some very good cars. Imagine a Merc V12 sound in a Rapide! Last edited by Rudra Sen : 25th October 2008 at 05:17.
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25th October 2008, 17:07	#14
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,788 Times View My Garage	How is this different from the many engine-supply and design-outsource deals? I don't think too much is going to change. Except that we can hope for a good looking Maybach.
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