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Old 23rd July 2016, 23:13   #16
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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Hungarian GP - Hungaroring

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My prediction for tomorrow is that Lewis will force Nico off the track in the first corner, takes the lead and goes on to win the race. Rosberg will come second followed by Verstappen and the Ricciardo.
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Maybe no need to run him off if he is penalized by the stewards.
Only 3hrs and 20 minutes between Nico’s pole lap and stewards deciding to look at alleged failure to slow for yellow flags.
Presuming that RedBull's protest is behind this investigation, it is possible that Mercedes would protest that both RBR cars were outside of 107% in Q1.

The remaining tyres for each driver.

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ALO doesn't have a new SS, and it might be important WRT tomorrows strategy.
Better to have rains

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No further action, Rosberg keeps pole.

To be fair, the video of the pole lap does seem to suggest this was blown up far bigger than it actually was. Rosberg went through ONE waved double yellows and ONE electronic flashing yellow between 0.50 & 0.54 on the posted video.

If the situation was deemed bad enough for double-waved yellows (meaning be ready to stop if required), why wasn't it applied to a longer section of track?
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Old 24th July 2016, 01:10   #18
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No further action, Rosberg keeps pole.
Even the others who were being challenged based on the 107% rule also gets to keep their places.
All is well that ends well.

Now after playing politics for so long, its time to get some rest before the actual racing starts
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The 107% rule is absolute tosh in the sense it's hardly ever applied to the letter. Even awfully slow back-markers in the early 2010s cost-capping (that eventually never happened) era successfully appealed to the stewards to be allowed to run.

That whole rule is rendered futile by the 'exceptional circumstances' caveat, which can pretty much cover everything under the sky. A bit of a non-issue today anyway as none of the cars outside the letter of the rule were actually slow enough to be deemed dangerous in a race.

I'm hoping a Red Bull wins tomorrow so we get a break from the tiresome Merc soap opera.

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The 107% rule is absolute tosh in the sense it's hardly ever applied to the letter. Even awfully slow back-markers in the early 2010s cost-capping (that eventually never happened) era successfully appealed to the stewards to be allowed to run.

That whole rule is rendered futile by the 'exceptional circumstances' caveat, which can pretty much cover everything under the sky. A bit of a non-issue today anyway as none of the cars outside the letter of the rule were actually slow enough to be deemed dangerous in a race.

I'm hoping a Red Bull wins tomorrow so we get a break from the tiresome Merc soap opera.
The rule (like most) has a very logical requirement.
It is meant to ensure that people don't turn up to the grid with a dud that is slower than a GP2 car.

And hey, save for Alonso bitching about the Honda engine, we still haven't seen cars actually lapping slower than the GP2 machines ! *touchwood/carbon fibre as applicable*

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What a boring race!
Only saving grace was Kimi's charge to finish 6th and Alonso's 7th place finish.
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Both Mercedes drivers did keep each other on toes. I would have wished more overtaking. Drivers are too careful around each other these days. More bouts like kimi and max would sure make it more gripping to see.
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Radio Rules really need to be rethought. If Jenson didnt have that drive through penalty, pretty sure he could have been competing further up the grid before he retired. Really sad to see JB go down like that!

Good stuff from Alonso. Not sure what happened to Williams and Force India this weekend.

As usual, great performance from the Mercedes and genuinely happy for Daniel Riccardo, the guy needed this podium to bring back his morale.
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I have a feeling that its going to he Hammertime till the end of 2016 season now.

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Looks like McLaren will overtake Torro Rosso by the end of season.

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The climb for McLaren since the start of the new Honda era.

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Not bad Fernando

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Both Mercedes drivers did keep each other on toes. I would have wished more overtaking. Drivers are too careful around each other these days. More bouts like kimi and max would sure make it more gripping to see.
I thought the gap seemed a bit forced.
Like part of the "new rules of engagement".
Maybe Toto gave them a "Max & min. delta" to be kept in order to avoid making it look easy.
Nico could have attacked a bit more to make it more interesting.
Looks like rain is the only saving grace for F1 now a days.

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Verstappen holds off Kimi once again, albeit for a fifth place finish. Such a performance at this young age, that too against such a seasoned campaigner, shows he is destined to be great. A career made with clear goals and able guidance from his experienced father is paying rich dividends. Such a support system from professional as well as personal level is difficult to come by in a country like India, which unfortunately doesn't have a great racing history to lean on. Till such time we don't find that support level, our appearances in the pinnacle of motor sports will be limited to few and far, as experienced in the past.
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I thought the gap seemed a bit forced.
Like part of the "new rules of engagement".
Maybe Toto gave them a "Max & min. delta" to be kept in order to avoid making it look easy.
Nico could have attacked a bit more to make it more interesting.
Looks like rain is the only saving grace for F1 now a days.
It wasn't forced.
Hamilton mentioned in the post race interviews that he changed to a different setting to save his engine considering that he's on his last PU.
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Nothing great about the race. I had the TV on but only watched during the pit stops. It was however an important race for many teams and drivers. Hamilton takes the lead, Ricciardo takes the 3rd spot. Red Bull are just one point below Ferrari in the constructors.

The start was just phenomenal though, watching the top 5 cars drag race till the first corner. All had perfect starts, was a real treat to watch.

Its going to be good fun watching Red Bull and Ferrari duke it out for 2nd place. Tracks like Singapore are going to be interesting if going by last years form is anything to consider.

I hope Kimi's partner comes to every race from now, he looked like a revived man yesterday. Tough luck he couldn't get ahead of Verstappen.
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Formula 1 High school for children. Rules Rules rules.
You cant go off track too many times.
You cant chit chat on the radio about your problems.
Your allowed only 1 defensive move.
You can get out cause its raining too much.

What the hell is happening.

The tv producer or whatever you call him was just stuck on the battle between Verstappen and kimi although the commentators were talking about the battle between Ham and rosberg. But for some reason they didnt switch there. Some pits stops were also missed.

Iam happy with the race result cause iam a hammer fan.
But not happy with the way the race rolled out.
This isnt racing.
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