F1 2005 engine figures

Hatari · 6th May 2005, 18:05

F1 rpm hierarchy

BMW Williams---------------------18,900 rpm
Toyota------------------------------18,800 rpm
Ferrari------------------------------18,800 rpm
Renault-----------------------------18,800 rpm
Sauber Petronas (Ferrari)-------18,700 rpm
BAR Honda------------------------18,600 rpm
Red Bull Cosworth---------------18,600 rpm
Jordan Toyota---------------------18,500 rpm
McLaren Mercedes---------------18,200 rpm
Minardi Cosworth NA

The most powerful engines :

Toyota RVX-05----------: 950-970 bhp
BMW P84/5--------------: 930-950 bhp
Ferrari 054---------------: 930-950 bhp

Quite a bit down the order is
Mercedes FO110R------: 900-920 bhp

what is especially interesting here is how good the MP4-20 chassis is to generate enough mechanical grip & how poor the mercedes engine is.

A pic of the rear wing angles of toyota & mclaren at bahrain revealed toyota to run much steeper wing angles compared to mclaren.

What these figures dont take into account is engine driveability -
the need for a flat power curve offering a wide spread of power across a large area of the upper rev range - which is just as important

NOTE : All figures as of Bahrain

jigarmuni · 6th May 2005, 20:23

wow where did u get those figures from dude?? pretty suprising that the mercedes has such a low reving engine.

I Must admit hatari, u do post some excellent stufff regarging F1....! & this post is another example..!

Hatari · 7th May 2005, 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigarmuni

wow where did u get those figures from dude?? pretty suprising that the mercedes has such a low reving engine.

I Must admit hatari, u do post some excellent stufff regarging F1....! & this post is another example..!

thanks..
this one's from the may issue of F1 racing

Abhay · 9th May 2005, 10:54

good one hatari..but how did they get the figures..from the TV broadcast ? and the power figures are deduced from that ?

The Merc has been a little underpowered in recent times but this doesnt take into consideration the driveability indeed...and the McLaren chassis is superb.

so the 2 races/engine rule didnt affect the rpm that much eh....the BMW engine crossed 19k rpm last year if I remember correctly...and supposedly the Honda was teh most powerful last year (when it didnt blow up!)

nitrous · 9th May 2005, 18:13

i remember reading this in this month's ACI.

6th May 2005, 18:05	#1
Hatari Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,878 Thanked: 879 Times	F1 2005 engine figures F1 rpm hierarchy BMW Williams---------------------18,900 rpm Toyota------------------------------18,800 rpm Ferrari------------------------------18,800 rpm Renault-----------------------------18,800 rpm Sauber Petronas (Ferrari)-------18,700 rpm BAR Honda------------------------18,600 rpm Red Bull Cosworth---------------18,600 rpm Jordan Toyota---------------------18,500 rpm McLaren Mercedes---------------18,200 rpm Minardi Cosworth NA The most powerful engines : Toyota RVX-05----------: 950-970 bhp BMW P84/5--------------: 930-950 bhp Ferrari 054---------------: 930-950 bhp Quite a bit down the order is Mercedes FO110R------: 900-920 bhp what is especially interesting here is how good the MP4-20 chassis is to generate enough mechanical grip & how poor the mercedes engine is. A pic of the rear wing angles of toyota & mclaren at bahrain revealed toyota to run much steeper wing angles compared to mclaren. What these figures dont take into account is engine driveability - the need for a flat power curve offering a wide spread of power across a large area of the upper rev range - which is just as important NOTE : All figures as of Bahrain Last edited by Hatari : 6th May 2005 at 18:17.
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6th May 2005, 20:23	#2
jigarmuni BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 139 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	wow where did u get those figures from dude?? pretty suprising that the mercedes has such a low reving engine. I Must admit hatari, u do post some excellent stufff regarging F1....! & this post is another example..!
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9th May 2005, 10:54	#4
Abhay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 727 Thanked: 11 Times	good one hatari..but how did they get the figures..from the TV broadcast ? and the power figures are deduced from that ? The Merc has been a little underpowered in recent times but this doesnt take into consideration the driveability indeed...and the McLaren chassis is superb. so the 2 races/engine rule didnt affect the rpm that much eh....the BMW engine crossed 19k rpm last year if I remember correctly...and supposedly the Honda was teh most powerful last year (when it didnt blow up!)
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9th May 2005, 18:13	#5
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 329 Times View My Garage	i remember reading this in this month's ACI.
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