F1 Crash In Dubai

snoop · 11th April 2009, 10:54

Bin sulayem crashes the F1 on dubai autodrome ,happ right in front of my eyes

YouTube - Renault F1 Crash Dubai Autodrome - Slowmotion - HD

speedmiester · 11th April 2009, 12:07

Goes to show why formula1 drivers are paid millions of dollars to drive these cars.

What the hell was he thinking? It's a straight line, how could he crash? Must have got overwhelmed with the power of F1 engine.

maverick030581 · 11th April 2009, 12:07

Looks like something gave way in the rear of the car. Or maybe he couldn't handle the torque. The latter seems a little unlikely though. One of the weirdest crashes I have seen, on a perfect straight.

YamahaBoy · 11th April 2009, 12:44

Damn thats one Bad Crash Especially on a straight line.. Hmm Looks like some mechanical fault unless the driver was trying to remodel the car of course

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Cheers!!!!

hillram · 11th April 2009, 13:09

It must have been a suspension failure which is common on a straight line,

Dippy · 11th April 2009, 15:36

Thats a nasty crash. Thank goodness for the safety on today's F1 cars. I agree with hillram. Seems like suspension failure. Something just sudenly broke on that car.

Sankar · 11th April 2009, 15:50

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Originally Posted by hillram

It must have been a suspension failure which is common on a straight line,

Could you explain please? How will a suspension fail on a straight line.. is there something that will cause it?

srikant · 11th April 2009, 17:46

God. . thats weird. How could this happen? was the driver a newbie to F1 Car? May be he lost steering control of the car.

HappyWheels · 11th April 2009, 17:52

He is a rally car driver and a champion at that. Maybe he wanted to turn a bit to the middle and ended up turning the steering too much! Old habits die hard.

kkr2k2 · 11th April 2009, 18:01

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Originally Posted by HappyWheels

He is a rally car driver and a champion at that. Maybe he wanted to turn a bit to the middle and ended up turning the steering too much! Old habits die hard.

ye bechara kaam ka boj ka maara, ise chahiyen Hamdard ka tonic Sinkara.

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Originally Posted by Sankar

Could you explain please? How will a suspension fail on a straight line.. is there something that will cause it?

There could other reasons too, but here is my explanation.

Even in a straight line(for the matter of fact in standing), there will be stress induced in the suspension. Also I would like to mention it to you that the track would not be a perfect flat and at the speeds of F1 car, even a small undulation will be magnified and if you can see, the suspension system will be taking shocks. And the laws of physics say, the smaller the duration of Force, greater the Impact.

Oh! by the way, the job of the suspension system is to absorb those kind of impacts. The failure in a part may be due to a small crack in the material which might have missed during QA. or there must some damage to the track which was not detected but detected by the suspension and the impact could be greater than the load it was designed for.

PS: Though, not my personal experience, an experienced person in car design once mentioned that the factor of safety in passenger cars is normally around 2.0 to 2.5 while for the racing cars its around 1.5 to 1.75.

PPS: I hope I could give you an idea, how the suspension might have failed.

carfreak · 11th April 2009, 18:31

Is this not the same Sulayem who was middle east rally champion?How could it happen to him?

snoop · 11th April 2009, 19:24

Yes he is The BIN SULAYEM middleeast rally champion ,i was there when it happ .
the first thing we noticed he was not on slicks they gave him all weather tires which was stupid, i race on Dubai track and trust me you never have grip on that track period
even on the straight there is always sand, so what we saw was as the revs kicked in the rear wheels lost traction and the car swayed to the right into the wall missing his own GT40 which was driven by Romain Grosjean Renualt's test driver!

SS-Traveller · 11th April 2009, 20:05

According to reports from the ground, the Renault was spinning its tires down the straight when it finally regained traction, causing an uneven transfer of grip and pulling the car to the right – narrowly avoiding the Ford – before it crashed into the pit wall.

VIDEO: Ben Sulayem crashes Renault F1 car while racing Ford GT in Dubai

HappyWheels · 11th April 2009, 20:15

Yes, it is the same Mohd. Bin Sulayem, the multiple times UAE rally champion!

xtreme power · 11th April 2009, 20:32

bin sulayem is no stranger to formula 1 cars, he has a history of testing them,
he has a beautiful collection of vintage cars, thats how i was associated with him cause he needed us to do a paint job for him in dubai
the guy is an awesome driver, what a little birdie told me was that he requested not to opt for the slicks cause he wanted to slide the car around

11th April 2009, 12:07	#2
speedmiester Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 2,387 Thanked: 6,631 Times	Goes to show why formula1 drivers are paid millions of dollars to drive these cars. What the hell was he thinking? It's a straight line, how could he crash? Must have got overwhelmed with the power of F1 engine.
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maverick030581 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 198 Thanked: 2 Times	Looks like something gave way in the rear of the car. Or maybe he couldn't handle the torque. The latter seems a little unlikely though. One of the weirdest crashes I have seen, on a perfect straight. Last edited by maverick030581 : 11th April 2009 at 12:09.
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11th April 2009, 12:44	#4
YamahaBoy BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Permanent: Palghat, Kerala Posts: 68 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Damn thats one Bad Crash Especially on a straight line.. Hmm Looks like some mechanical fault unless the driver was trying to remodel the car of course . Cheers!!!!
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11th April 2009, 13:09	#5
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	It must have been a suspension failure which is common on a straight line,
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11th April 2009, 15:36	#6
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,561 Thanked: 2,470 Times	Thats a nasty crash. Thank goodness for the safety on today's F1 cars. I agree with hillram. Seems like suspension failure. Something just sudenly broke on that car.
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11th April 2009, 17:46	#8
srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 488 Thanked: 12 Times	God. . thats weird. How could this happen? was the driver a newbie to F1 Car? May be he lost steering control of the car.
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11th April 2009, 17:52	#9
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,106 Thanked: 537 Times	He is a rally car driver and a champion at that. Maybe he wanted to turn a bit to the middle and ended up turning the steering too much! Old habits die hard.
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11th April 2009, 18:31	#11
carfreak BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Udupi Posts: 599 Thanked: 342 Times	Is this not the same Sulayem who was middle east rally champion?How could it happen to him?
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11th April 2009, 19:24	#12
snoop BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: dubai Posts: 26 Thanked: Once	Yes he is The BIN SULAYEM middleeast rally champion ,i was there when it happ . the first thing we noticed he was not on slicks they gave him all weather tires which was stupid, i race on Dubai track and trust me you never have grip on that track period even on the straight there is always sand, so what we saw was as the revs kicked in the rear wheels lost traction and the car swayed to the right into the wall missing his own GT40 which was driven by Romain Grosjean Renualt's test driver!
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11th April 2009, 20:05	#13
SS-Traveller Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 8,164 Thanked: 27,143 Times View My Garage	Why did it happen? According to reports from the ground, the Renault was spinning its tires down the straight when it finally regained traction, causing an uneven transfer of grip and pulling the car to the right – narrowly avoiding the Ford – before it crashed into the pit wall. VIDEO: Ben Sulayem crashes Renault F1 car while racing Ford GT in Dubai
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11th April 2009, 20:15	#14
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,106 Thanked: 537 Times	Yes, it is the same Mohd. Bin Sulayem, the multiple times UAE rally champion!
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11th April 2009, 20:32	#15
xtreme power BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 732 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	bin sulayem is no stranger to formula 1 cars, he has a history of testing them, he has a beautiful collection of vintage cars, thats how i was associated with him cause he needed us to do a paint job for him in dubai the guy is an awesome driver, what a little birdie told me was that he requested not to opt for the slicks cause he wanted to slide the car around
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