2005 F1 Monaco GP

GTO · 23rd May 2005, 19:39

WHAT A RACE! Whoever said that Monaco has no overtaking. It was absolute crash, boom and bang.

Atleast yesterday, it was no more Formula Yawn.

GTO

manson · 24th May 2005, 01:59

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Originally Posted by GTO

Atleast yesterday, it was no more Formula Yawn.

GTO

the race had me at the edge of my seat almost from the start to the end !

manson .

F50 · 24th May 2005, 11:40

Yea the race was very interesting and the battle between 2 Williams and Alonso was great and Heidfeld finally getting a podium position and so does Webber.
Wondering where would Michael be if he didnt go in the pits to change the nose section.

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In fact he clipped Ralf on the wheel on the finish line..

No, there was no contact on the finish line. If they made contact,then one of them would have gone flying.

This is what Ralf told
"It was very dangerous " ... "It seems to be that Michael sometimes loses it. I have the feeling he sometimes switches his brain-off."... "We are not there to endanger each other's lives. It's just frustration, because nothing is working for Michael."

Michael says( nice reply)
"He was not on a Day Trip"

... " My attack was absolutely justified. I am a full-blooded race driver."

aveek · 24th May 2005, 12:46

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Originally Posted by F 50

....This is what Ralf told
"It was very dangerous " ... "It seems to be that Michael sometimes loses it. I have the feeling he sometimes switches his brain-off."... "We are not there to endanger each other's lives. It's just frustration, because nothing is working for Michael."

Michael says
"He was not on a Day Trip"

... " My attack was absolutely justified. I am a full-blooded race driver."

I still think that the move was very dangerous. The way the Toyota suddenly twitched out of line made it seem like a definite clip on the rear tyre... Yeah, the race was abssolutely fantastic!!

F50 · 24th May 2005, 12:57

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Originally Posted by aveek

I still think that the move was very dangerous. The way the Toyota suddenly twitched out of line made it seem like a definite clip on the rear tyre... Yeah, the race was abssolutely fantastic!!

Nop there was no contact at all and that was admitted by Ralf.
I forgot one statement to add of Ralf's
"If our tyres had touched even slightly, one of us would havebeen gone" ... "Atleast one of us would have a broken neck. I dont want that."

gr8guzzler · 25th May 2005, 03:28

When the Safety car was called in on lap 25 and everyone was going in for a pitstop, I was thinking *** is Mclaren doing by asking Kimi to stay out since he'll have to make a pitstop without any time advantage later. Funny thing is Kimi was going through the same thoughts

Here is an article explaining McLaren's decesion at that stage...http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=32935

Cheers!!!

raihan · 25th May 2005, 11:31

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Originally Posted by F 50

Michael says( nice reply)
"He was not on a Day Trip"

... " My attack was absolutely justified. I am a full-blooded race driver."

I was just wondering why Shuey didn't take Alonso at Imola the same way??
just goes to show how much more risk you take when you running out of the top 3.

Montoya · 25th May 2005, 21:21

Race was awesome but the renaults lost it bad.. and sad.. i didnot understand one thing that overtaking is not possible on this track after that tunnel corner then how did micheal overtake Rubens just before the last corner.. team orders??

gr8guzzler · 25th May 2005, 21:24

This was Ruben's statement after the race....

"I lost a position to Michael right at the end, as I was trying to overtake Ralf. Michael took a gamble for the extra point. The most important thing we can take away from here is that the car was very good in the race." (Courtesy: ITV.com)

So I think it was team orders.....however he did complain about the risky manover from schumi....

another thing...didn't schumi also go over the yellow line after his 2nd pitstop...why wasn't he given a 10 sec penalty as rubens???

Montoya · 25th May 2005, 23:14

But rubens was penalised for speeding in pits and not crossing the line.. but micheal didnot cross it he went on it..

gr8guzzler · 25th May 2005, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Montoya

but micheal didnot cross it he went on it..

Hmm...I always thought that they were not supposed to even touch it.....anyway

Montoya · 25th May 2005, 23:26

Even i feel the same and o feel micheal should be penalised for that.. and also those stupidest thing was done by the Saubers by Jackues attacking his own team mate..WTF?? because of them Ferrari were in points..

gr8guzzler · 25th May 2005, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Montoya

Even i feel the same and o feel micheal should be penalised for that.. and also those stupidest thing was done by the Saubers by Jackues attacking his own team mate..WTF?? because of them Ferrari were in points..

Yeah JV mentioned later that it was his fault. Massa tires were in bad shape and the team had asked JV to overtake Massa but it was done badly. The team very well knew the risk....but they didn't expect the worst to happen.

Hatari · 26th May 2005, 22:52

i was on holiday.. got to watch it on a horrible old bw tv.. with lots of disturbance
pity the renualts had to spoil so many drivers' races..

23rd May 2005, 19:39	#16
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,770 Thanked: 322,394 Times View My Garage	WHAT A RACE! Whoever said that Monaco has no overtaking. It was absolute crash, boom and bang. Atleast yesterday, it was no more Formula Yawn. GTO
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25th May 2005, 03:28	#21
gr8guzzler BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 653 Thanked: 87 Times View My Garage	When the Safety car was called in on lap 25 and everyone was going in for a pitstop, I was thinking *** is Mclaren doing by asking Kimi to stay out since he'll have to make a pitstop without any time advantage later. Funny thing is Kimi was going through the same thoughts Here is an article explaining McLaren's decesion at that stage...http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=32935 Cheers!!!
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25th May 2005, 21:21	#23
Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: Once	Race was awesome but the renaults lost it bad.. and sad.. i didnot understand one thing that overtaking is not possible on this track after that tunnel corner then how did micheal overtake Rubens just before the last corner.. team orders??
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25th May 2005, 21:24	#24
gr8guzzler BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 653 Thanked: 87 Times View My Garage	This was Ruben's statement after the race.... "I lost a position to Michael right at the end, as I was trying to overtake Ralf. Michael took a gamble for the extra point. The most important thing we can take away from here is that the car was very good in the race." (Courtesy: ITV.com) So I think it was team orders.....however he did complain about the risky manover from schumi.... another thing...didn't schumi also go over the yellow line after his 2nd pitstop...why wasn't he given a 10 sec penalty as rubens??? Last edited by gr8guzzler : 25th May 2005 at 21:40. Reason: More info
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25th May 2005, 23:14	#25
Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: Once	But rubens was penalised for speeding in pits and not crossing the line.. but micheal didnot cross it he went on it..
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Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: Once	Even i feel the same and o feel micheal should be penalised for that.. and also those stupidest thing was done by the Saubers by Jackues attacking his own team mate..WTF?? because of them Ferrari were in points..
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Hatari Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,901 Thanked: 926 Times	i was on holiday.. got to watch it on a horrible old bw tv.. with lots of disturbance pity the renualts had to spoil so many drivers' races..
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