The breakaway series thread

McLaren Rulez · 19th June 2009, 16:49

Well, since we now have an official breakaway coming, perhaps we should discuss it outside F1 threads. Team BHPians, feel free to post anything that is specific to the series here.

To start with, what do you all think the breakaway should be called since F1 and related trademarked stuff cannot be used? Any interesting names for the newest motorsport event in the world?

KRf1 · 19th June 2009, 20:02

A few guesses :
GP 1
Formula Max !
World Motorsport Championship
Formula FOTA

bottle · 19th June 2009, 21:14

New series Formula One and the other Formula None

McLaren Rulez · 19th June 2009, 21:19

Someone posted this name on another forum.

"They asked Ron Dennis to come up with a name, and his suggestion was:

The World series of high velocity motorised conveyances competing in an equitable and inclusive environment of mutual trust and understanding while simultaneously embracing the core values of its key stakeholders and leveraging the knowledge capital and synergistic goal sharing strategies necessary to elicit the ultimate goal of all participants - Championship"

TWSOHVMCCIAEAIEOMTAUWSETCVOIKSALTKCASGSSNTETUGOAPC for short

turbo_v12 · 20th June 2009, 09:34

Formula FOTA does make sense.

rallystar · 20th June 2009, 10:03

What about FORMULA BREAK 1

pranavt · 20th June 2009, 11:07

I doubt they can use FOTA since it stands for Formula One Teams Association, and Formula 1, Formula One, F1 and other stuff is trademarked by Bernie/FOM. Also, I doubt they'd want to keep it as "Formula Formula One Teams Association" as their name for now.

kuttapan · 20th June 2009, 13:54

The FOTA finds itself in a tricky situation. Ferrari, Mclaren etc are the rear benchers currently, while the winning car itself has a Merc Engine. Rules will have to be rewritten to suit the manufacturer teams, and then the others are going to crib about it.

It will be a very delicate balancing act, question is, Who will do it? I believe Ferrari has the most clout - however, Toyota, Mclaren, BMW etc are not going to allow Ferrari to dictate things.

At the moment, the FOTA teams make for strange bedfellows. We will have to wait and see - it will be interesting to see how the teams put all their differences behind their backs and make this new championship successful. But then, money is a powerful driver and motivator.

pranavt · 20th June 2009, 14:31

Well, Lola and N.Technology have both pulled out their applications from the FIA for next season and are probably now interested in joining FOTA and their breakaway series. Even Prodrive/Aston Martin might be joining them. Mallya has also said that he will decide about his team once both sides are done bickering and fighting.

Mosley has slyly escaped the shame of advertising the F1 grid for next year, considering that they now have 2 of the current backmarker teams, 2-3 teams from lower GP categories which nobody's really heard of, and the rest of the applicants who are nobodies themselves.

The new series will have a majority of the sponsors. Ecclestone is going to be in deep deep excreta considering that the whole foundation of FOM and CVC is on huge debts which will now implode, considering the loyalty, and stipulations in contracts of sponsors, circuits, TV companies and what-not. Nobody wants to take part in or sponsor a has-been racing series with a couple of stubborn and power/money hungry 70 year old idiots at the helm, and a bunch of nobodies racing bathtubs around boring and empty circuits in the Middle-East and Asia. Meanwhile, Mosley has said that he's going to run the elections for another term as FIA headmaster. What a tub of crock.

Bumblebee86 · 20th June 2009, 15:43

The breakaway series thread-fia_sue_fota.jpg

Just moments after the conclusion of second free practice for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, the FIA has announced that it will begin legal proceedings against the Formula One Teams Association over its proposal to form a breakaway series to rival F1.

FOTA made the announcement late on Thursday night that it was to start its own series in 2010, having failed to reach an agreement with the FIA to commit to the F1 grid for next season thanks to the ongoing dispute over Max Mosley's idea for a budget cap.

BMW Sauber, Brawn GP, Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso, Renault and Toyota all planned to quit F1 as a result of the ongoing dispute but the governing body has now responded with the threat of legal action.

The breakaway series thread-fota_breaks_f1.jpg

In a short statement, the FIA revealed that the teams – and Ferrari in particular – had contractual commitments to F1 that couldn't broken, leaving it with little option but to begun legal proceedings.

The governing body also confirmed that the publication of the 2010 entry list has also been delayed.

“The FIA's lawyers have now examined the FOTA threat to begin a breakaway series,” the missive read. “The actions of FOTA as a whole, and Ferrari in particular, amount to serious violations of law including wilful interference with contractual relations, direct breaches of Ferrari's legal obligations and a grave violation of competition law. The FIA will be issuing legal proceedings without delay.

“Preparations for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship continue but publication of the final 2010 entry list will be put on hold while the FIA asserts its legal rights.”

SOURCE: CRASH.NET

McLaren Rulez · 20th June 2009, 15:50

More news: Canada (i.e. the Montreal circuit) has stopped negotiations with F1. Haha, I wonder why?

McLaren Rulez · 21st June 2009, 22:20

autosport.com - F1 News: FOTA beginning work on new series

Well according to that, the breakaway may still be regulated by the FIA. Regulated only though. FOTA frames the rules and the FIA regulates them. Sort of like legislative and judicial bodies that act independently. Which may make the FIA legal action redundant

pranava999 · 21st June 2009, 22:33

How about "championship 1"?

pranavt · 22nd June 2009, 23:48

Haha, Mosley and Bernie have suddenly gone soft on the whole issue.

Mosley backtracks on legal threat and 'looney' claim - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com
Bernie: Breakaway would be a total disaster - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com

They're realising the unity of the teams only now. Good luck. And the new series doesn't have to be sanctioned by the FIA. The Le Mans runs without FIA's involvement and is celebrated the world over. Maybe, just maybe, the new series will finally do away with Mosley's interference.

myavu · 23rd June 2009, 16:17

Techno 1 - T1

MOTA (Manufactures Only Team Association)

19th June 2009, 16:49	#1
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,465 Thanked: 5,536 Times	The breakaway series thread Well, since we now have an official breakaway coming, perhaps we should discuss it outside F1 threads. Team BHPians, feel free to post anything that is specific to the series here. To start with, what do you all think the breakaway should be called since F1 and related trademarked stuff cannot be used? Any interesting names for the newest motorsport event in the world? Last edited by McLaren Rulez : 19th June 2009 at 16:54.
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19th June 2009, 20:02	#2
KRf1 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NCR / BLR Posts: 339 Thanked: 3 Times	A few guesses : GP 1 Formula Max ! World Motorsport Championship Formula FOTA
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19th June 2009, 21:14	#3
bottle Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,641 Thanked: 294 Times View My Garage	New series Formula One and the other Formula None
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19th June 2009, 21:19	#4
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,465 Thanked: 5,536 Times	Someone posted this name on another forum. "They asked Ron Dennis to come up with a name, and his suggestion was: The World series of high velocity motorised conveyances competing in an equitable and inclusive environment of mutual trust and understanding while simultaneously embracing the core values of its key stakeholders and leveraging the knowledge capital and synergistic goal sharing strategies necessary to elicit the ultimate goal of all participants - Championship" TWSOHVMCCIAEAIEOMTAUWSETCVOIKSALTKCASGSSNTETUGOAPC for short
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20th June 2009, 09:34	#5
turbo_v12 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thane Posts: 457 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Formula FOTA does make sense.
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20th June 2009, 10:03	#6
rallystar BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: goa Posts: 145 Thanked: 19 Times	What about FORMULA BREAK 1
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20th June 2009, 11:07	#7
pranavt BANNED Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,704 Thanked: 852 Times View My Garage	I doubt they can use FOTA since it stands for Formula One Teams Association, and Formula 1, Formula One, F1 and other stuff is trademarked by Bernie/FOM. Also, I doubt they'd want to keep it as "Formula Formula One Teams Association" as their name for now.
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20th June 2009, 13:54	#8
kuttapan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 27 Times View My Garage	The FOTA finds itself in a tricky situation. Ferrari, Mclaren etc are the rear benchers currently, while the winning car itself has a Merc Engine. Rules will have to be rewritten to suit the manufacturer teams, and then the others are going to crib about it. It will be a very delicate balancing act, question is, Who will do it? I believe Ferrari has the most clout - however, Toyota, Mclaren, BMW etc are not going to allow Ferrari to dictate things. At the moment, the FOTA teams make for strange bedfellows. We will have to wait and see - it will be interesting to see how the teams put all their differences behind their backs and make this new championship successful. But then, money is a powerful driver and motivator.
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20th June 2009, 14:31	#9
pranavt BANNED Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,704 Thanked: 852 Times View My Garage	Well, Lola and N.Technology have both pulled out their applications from the FIA for next season and are probably now interested in joining FOTA and their breakaway series. Even Prodrive/Aston Martin might be joining them. Mallya has also said that he will decide about his team once both sides are done bickering and fighting. Mosley has slyly escaped the shame of advertising the F1 grid for next year, considering that they now have 2 of the current backmarker teams, 2-3 teams from lower GP categories which nobody's really heard of, and the rest of the applicants who are nobodies themselves. The new series will have a majority of the sponsors. Ecclestone is going to be in deep deep excreta considering that the whole foundation of FOM and CVC is on huge debts which will now implode, considering the loyalty, and stipulations in contracts of sponsors, circuits, TV companies and what-not. Nobody wants to take part in or sponsor a has-been racing series with a couple of stubborn and power/money hungry 70 year old idiots at the helm, and a bunch of nobodies racing bathtubs around boring and empty circuits in the Middle-East and Asia. Meanwhile, Mosley has said that he's going to run the elections for another term as FIA headmaster. What a tub of crock. Last edited by pranavt : 20th June 2009 at 14:36.
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20th June 2009, 15:43	#10
Bumblebee86 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gudaibiya; BAHRAIN/ Vandiperiyar; KERALA/ Wuhan; CHINA Posts: 359 Thanked: 6 Times	FIA sues FOTA Just moments after the conclusion of second free practice for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, the FIA has announced that it will begin legal proceedings against the Formula One Teams Association over its proposal to form a breakaway series to rival F1. FOTA made the announcement late on Thursday night that it was to start its own series in 2010, having failed to reach an agreement with the FIA to commit to the F1 grid for next season thanks to the ongoing dispute over Max Mosley's idea for a budget cap. BMW Sauber, Brawn GP, Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso, Renault and Toyota all planned to quit F1 as a result of the ongoing dispute but the governing body has now responded with the threat of legal action. In a short statement, the FIA revealed that the teams – and Ferrari in particular – had contractual commitments to F1 that couldn't broken, leaving it with little option but to begun legal proceedings. The governing body also confirmed that the publication of the 2010 entry list has also been delayed. “The FIA's lawyers have now examined the FOTA threat to begin a breakaway series,” the missive read. “The actions of FOTA as a whole, and Ferrari in particular, amount to serious violations of law including wilful interference with contractual relations, direct breaches of Ferrari's legal obligations and a grave violation of competition law. The FIA will be issuing legal proceedings without delay. “Preparations for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship continue but publication of the final 2010 entry list will be put on hold while the FIA asserts its legal rights.” SOURCE: CRASH.NET Last edited by Bumblebee86 : 20th June 2009 at 15:57.
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20th June 2009, 15:50	#11
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,465 Thanked: 5,536 Times	More news: Canada (i.e. the Montreal circuit) has stopped negotiations with F1. Haha, I wonder why? Last edited by McLaren Rulez : 20th June 2009 at 15:54.
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21st June 2009, 22:20	#12
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,465 Thanked: 5,536 Times	autosport.com - F1 News: FOTA beginning work on new series Well according to that, the breakaway may still be regulated by the FIA. Regulated only though. FOTA frames the rules and the FIA regulates them. Sort of like legislative and judicial bodies that act independently. Which may make the FIA legal action redundant
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21st June 2009, 22:33	#13
pranava999 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 845 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	How about "championship 1"?
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22nd June 2009, 23:48	#14
pranavt BANNED Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,704 Thanked: 852 Times View My Garage	Haha, Mosley and Bernie have suddenly gone soft on the whole issue. Mosley backtracks on legal threat and 'looney' claim - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com Bernie: Breakaway would be a total disaster - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com They're realising the unity of the teams only now. Good luck. And the new series doesn't have to be sanctioned by the FIA. The Le Mans runs without FIA's involvement and is celebrated the world over. Maybe, just maybe, the new series will finally do away with Mosley's interference.
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23rd June 2009, 16:17	#15
myavu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Delhi - Kochi Posts: 1,621 Thanked: 2,138 Times	Techno 1 - T1 MOTA (Manufactures Only Team Association)
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