2010 F1 Monza - Italian Grand prix

Addy · 11th September 2010, 19:49

What a lap from Alonso !! Clever to put in a banker well within 5 minutes of Q3 time. Wish the oder remains the same for tomorrow after the race, wouldn't mind a boring train of cars - Why ? because that will keep the championship even open!!

@ Schumifan - Mecedes GP have already confirmed that they have stopped the development of this years car, considering Ross Brawn's brains they will be a force next year. Now all the development is in small bits that can be carried on to next years car.

MaserQ · 11th September 2010, 19:53

It does look as if Ferrari and Mclaren have closed the performance gap to the Redbulls. If Alonso wins tomorrow, he will be right back in the championship hunt. Redbulls will have to take a few chances from hereon, if they have to win either title.

SchumiFan · 11th September 2010, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Addy

@ Schumifan - Mecedes GP have already confirmed that they have stopped the development of this years car, considering Ross Brawn's brains they will be a force next year. Now all the development is in small bits that can be carried on to next years car.

I know they stopped the development on the current car. But the requirement was a low downforce setup specific to Monza. I wonder why with their car's power, they were not able to challenge the top runners. Need to see their strategy for tomorrow. Counting on a points finish for Schumi.

SilentEngine · 11th September 2010, 20:12

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Originally Posted by MaserQ

It does look as if Ferrari and Mclaren have closed the performance gap to the Redbulls. If Alonso wins tomorrow, he will be right back in the championship hunt. Redbulls will have to take a few chances from hereon, if they have to win either title.

Ferrari have improved over last few races, but RedBulls needn't worry just yet. It's given that their car doesn't suit the track here like it does in other circuits.
In WCC, their only challenge is McLaren. Ferrari are far too back.
If they finish the race in the same order as they qualified, Webber would be just one point behind Hamilton in WDC.
HAM 192
WEB 191
ALO 166
BUT 165
VET 159

So in this race, McLaren and Lewis have much more to lose than the RedBulls, if they don't score some big points relative to RedBulls.

Come Singapore, and you will find that RedBulls will be flying again.

PAVAN KADAM · 11th September 2010, 20:40

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Originally Posted by SchumiFan

I know they stopped the development on the current car. But the requirement was a low downforce setup specific to Monza. I wonder why with their car's power, they were not able to challenge the top runners. Need to see their strategy for tomorrow. Counting on a points finish for Schumi.

Inspite of the Aero changes, F-Ducts.. No clue where Merc GP is going this season.

Understood Schumi has a car thats not built with him in mind, Nico seems to be better in Qualifying, but the average results show either of them finish in 7th and 9th position almost all races.

So, we need to wait for the team to come out with a Killer car the coming season. Only then will all the doubtful queries of Schumi's comeback be answered.

Ferrari was lightning fast today, Mclarens tried, only tomorrows race will tell.

PAVAN KADAM · 11th September 2010, 23:39

I wonder, if .... if they come out with a stonker of a car for 2011, and if Schumi gets into his past groove. The opponents will be dancing in pain.

You cant say anything, since most of the teams are better now, even they will be working for a better car for the coming season.

Only time will tell, BTW, here's what Formula1.com says.

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Originally Posted by formula1.com

Michael Schumacher (12th, Q2 - 1m 23.388s)
"I am obviously not very happy with our qualifying today but my position is probably what my car was giving me. We did not have a perfect balance, especially in some corners where the car was a bit loose, but then we did not come here expecting to achieve a great performance. However the race will be long tomorrow and having been welcomed so nicely by all of my Italian fans, I obviously wish to at least grab some points for them."

Ross Brawn, Mercedes GP team principal
"The team and drivers have done a good job so far this weekend to get the most out of the car. It was a particularly good effort from Nico today to achieve seventh position with a strong run in Q3. We have a good high fuel set-up so we have done the work required for the race and can hope to pick up a place or two with both cars. Whilst we are not pushing the guys right at the front, we are maintaining our position just behind, and with our focus on 2011, that is our aim for the rest of this year."

Waiting for an exciting race tomorrow

manubhai · 12th September 2010, 01:59

Ill go with Addy for this one ; an Alonso win will only make the championship more exciting & throw the doors wide open !

More interesting is Webber & Hamilton at 4 & 5 and no offence to their fans but both are just too close to each other for comfort, given that both have the 'capability' to take out each other.

They may just make Ferraris day out in Monza !

hillram · 12th September 2010, 02:24

Mclarens need to work real hard now.Especially Lewis.Since Lewisisnot using F-Duct,it could give Silver arrows straight line speed.
Season is getting interesting.

SchumiFan · 12th September 2010, 19:09

A fantastic race for Alonso, Massa and Ferrari. Alonso got the pole, the win and the fastest lap to complete the perfect race and he probably got his wish for a perfect race weekend granted by the Gods!

Awesome from Button and Massa in trying to keep their heads cool at the start of the race and a very good job in the pits for Alonso and he repaid their efforts with a stunning win

Vettel did well to nurse a car with an 'ailing' engine. Webber and Redbull will be happy with whatever they got from Italy. They simply didn't have the pace to challenge the Top3.

Rosberg did a solid race for MercGP and if not for Vettel's change of strategy would have got fourth position in the race. Schumi also had a solid race to finish 9th and he kept his cool when racing with faster cars.

Going to be a thrilling final races of the season!

Forza Ferrari!!!

PAVAN KADAM · 12th September 2010, 19:23

What a lovely race

Alonso had it all going his way. He deserved this Ferrari Win.

Though Lewis had tough luck, Jenson had his moments in the race, but the Ferrari breathing down his throat, a 2nd is best he could manage.

Massa was his subdued best with 3rd.

Roseberg was as good as his car, Sadly Force India lost out miserably

Schumi is consistently in 9th positon, sadly the car was behaving like running on slippery tyres, engine seems to be out on breath. He has what it takes to be ahead of the Grid, but sadly his car is not worth it. Good he is within points anyways.

SilentEngine · 12th September 2010, 19:26

Good race for the Ferrari. The WDC is a bit tighter than earlier now, with Hamilton crashing and Webber finishing behind the other 3 contenders.

Button did amazingly well to keep Alonso behind for a long time. Alonso was clearly faster.
Vettel's engine problem looked a little mysterious, immediately after that he started setting the best lap times.

If Hamilton was little less aggressive, he could have got the podium easily. That was a rookie mistake he did today.

Good race from Rosberg and the Hulk.

McLaren Rulez · 12th September 2010, 19:47

Shame about Hamilton throwing it all away. Thankfully Webber had a poor race which means he only has five points on Hamilton.

Button drove amazingly well to hold Alonso off in the first stint but ultimately, Ferrari were just too quick.

Good race by Vettel and Rosberg too.

PAVAN KADAM · 12th September 2010, 19:50

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Originally Posted by SilentEngine

Good race for the Ferrari. The WDC is a bit tighter than earlier now, with Hamilton crashing and Webber finishing behind the other 3 contenders.

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Cant say how Alonso will take his lead further, as the rest of the tracks suit Red-bulls better.

Here is the WDC and Constructors stand as on date:

DRIVER STANDINGS

01Mark Webber 187
02Lewis Hamilton 182
03Fernando Alonso 166
04Jenson Button 165
05Sebastian Vettel 163
06Felipe Massa 124
07Nico Rosberg 112
08Robert Kubica 108
09Michael Schumacher 46
10Adrian Sutil 45

CONSTRUCTOR STANDINGS

01RBR-Renault 350
02McLaren-Mercedes 347
03Ferrari 290
04Mercedes GP 158
05Renault 127
06Force India-Mercedes 58
07Williams-Cosworth 47
08BMW Sauber-Ferrari 27
09STR-Ferrari 10
10Lotus-Cosworth 0

McLaren Rulez · 12th September 2010, 20:42

The Yamamoto-radio mechanic incident. Not for the faint of heart

YouTube - Monza F1 accident in pit stop (Italy F1 GP 2010)

finneyp · 12th September 2010, 20:49

Perfect weekend for Ferrari & Tifosis, the fight between Alonso & Button made it a very interesting race!

Alonso finally made the cut, thanks to well executed pit-stop by Ferrari crew.

Schumi would have felt awful, a venue where he was treated as King in the past, was no where to be seen!

11th September 2010, 19:49	#16
Addy BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 102 Thanked: 13 Times	What a lap from Alonso !! Clever to put in a banker well within 5 minutes of Q3 time. Wish the oder remains the same for tomorrow after the race, wouldn't mind a boring train of cars - Why ? because that will keep the championship even open!! @ Schumifan - Mecedes GP have already confirmed that they have stopped the development of this years car, considering Ross Brawn's brains they will be a force next year. Now all the development is in small bits that can be carried on to next years car.
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11th September 2010, 19:53	#17
MaserQ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,196 Thanked: 166 Times	It does look as if Ferrari and Mclaren have closed the performance gap to the Redbulls. If Alonso wins tomorrow, he will be right back in the championship hunt. Redbulls will have to take a few chances from hereon, if they have to win either title.
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12th September 2010, 01:59	#22
manubhai BHPian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 102 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	Ill go with Addy for this one ; an Alonso win will only make the championship more exciting & throw the doors wide open ! More interesting is Webber & Hamilton at 4 & 5 and no offence to their fans but both are just too close to each other for comfort, given that both have the 'capability' to take out each other. They may just make Ferraris day out in Monza !
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12th September 2010, 02:24	#23
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	Mclarens need to work real hard now.Especially Lewis.Since Lewisisnot using F-Duct,it could give Silver arrows straight line speed. Season is getting interesting.
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12th September 2010, 19:09	#24
SchumiFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,041 Thanked: 1,161 Times	A fantastic race for Alonso, Massa and Ferrari. Alonso got the pole, the win and the fastest lap to complete the perfect race and he probably got his wish for a perfect race weekend granted by the Gods! Awesome from Button and Massa in trying to keep their heads cool at the start of the race and a very good job in the pits for Alonso and he repaid their efforts with a stunning win Vettel did well to nurse a car with an 'ailing' engine. Webber and Redbull will be happy with whatever they got from Italy. They simply didn't have the pace to challenge the Top3. Rosberg did a solid race for MercGP and if not for Vettel's change of strategy would have got fourth position in the race. Schumi also had a solid race to finish 9th and he kept his cool when racing with faster cars. Going to be a thrilling final races of the season! Forza Ferrari!!!
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12th September 2010, 19:23	#25
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	What a lovely race Alonso had it all going his way. He deserved this Ferrari Win. Though Lewis had tough luck, Jenson had his moments in the race, but the Ferrari breathing down his throat, a 2nd is best he could manage. Massa was his subdued best with 3rd. Roseberg was as good as his car, Sadly Force India lost out miserably Schumi is consistently in 9th positon, sadly the car was behaving like running on slippery tyres, engine seems to be out on breath. He has what it takes to be ahead of the Grid, but sadly his car is not worth it. Good he is within points anyways.
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12th September 2010, 19:26	#26
SilentEngine Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: KA19,KA04 Posts: 1,167 Thanked: 735 Times View My Garage	Good race for the Ferrari. The WDC is a bit tighter than earlier now, with Hamilton crashing and Webber finishing behind the other 3 contenders. Button did amazingly well to keep Alonso behind for a long time. Alonso was clearly faster. Vettel's engine problem looked a little mysterious, immediately after that he started setting the best lap times. If Hamilton was little less aggressive, he could have got the podium easily. That was a rookie mistake he did today. Good race from Rosberg and the Hulk.
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12th September 2010, 19:47	#27
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	Shame about Hamilton throwing it all away. Thankfully Webber had a poor race which means he only has five points on Hamilton. Button drove amazingly well to hold Alonso off in the first stint but ultimately, Ferrari were just too quick. Good race by Vettel and Rosberg too.
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12th September 2010, 20:49	#30
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	Perfect weekend for Ferrari & Tifosis, the fight between Alonso & Button made it a very interesting race! Alonso finally made the cut, thanks to well executed pit-stop by Ferrari crew. Schumi would have felt awful, a venue where he was treated as King in the past, was no where to be seen!
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