the best f1 driver

speedsatya · 21st September 2004, 15:13

guys ,
who according to you is this year's best F1 driver.

its button for me.and then kimi.
even though MS has dominated ,i think its aslo because of a superior car and tire made specifically for him.
but BAR have started from scratch and its only Button who has really matched MS in any way.
though i am a Kimi fan,i feel button was the best and he is the one to watch for in the williams next year

speedsatya

Hatari · 21st September 2004, 15:18

i wud have to say michael
he's been flawless right through..

Dippy · 21st September 2004, 16:26

Michael Schumacher...

dont need to say a reason why

Dippy

Rtech · 21st September 2004, 16:43

i hate to follow the crowd, but Schumi has been THE driver of 2004. His car may be a bit better, but look at a Rubens' pace in the same car. That really shows that extra magic schumi brings with him.

Button would be the runner up though.

The let down for me this season has been Alonso. I expected a lot from him, but he has really failed to deliver. Trulli has been better than him most of the season. Also, Alonso has made too many mistakes, the most recent of which wa spinning off on his own in Monza. He's still one of my favorite drivers though, right after MS and Fissichella.

Rt

aggressive_anush · 21st September 2004, 17:05

Personally my favourite driver is Kimi... but button has been doing really well this year....
Kimi's had more than his share of badluck,.... really unfortunate..
I am not a big fan of MS at all... actually i dont like him even a little bit... he definitely is a good driver but methinks this year it was ferrari that were just so superior that nobody got anywhere close...

Anyways... looking forward to next year.. im sure kimi will win

Aditya · 21st September 2004, 18:02

My personal favourites are Kimi Raikkonen and Mark Webber. I'm not even a Ferrari fan when it comes to Formula 1. But, I must admit that the best driver of 2004 is Michael Schumacher.

GTO · 21st September 2004, 18:33

Michael Schumacher - And I'd be surprised if anyone has doubts why. Button is probably the most improved...but the topic asks whos the best!

GTO

dipen · 21st September 2004, 18:52

dominating 5 years is not a joke. consistency and this long is something really awesome
MS deserves all the credit he has got.

Hatari · 21st September 2004, 19:10

rtech..
alonso didnt spin off onhis own at monza..
there was an oil leak which got oil onto his tyres.. thus causing him to skid..

and do u still think barrichelo has the same car/status in the team as michael ?

Rtech · 21st September 2004, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]alonso didnt spin off onhis own at monza..
there was an oil leak which got oil onto his tyres.. thus causing him to skid..

Not according to the reports I read. Even Alonso admitted it was his fault. Where did you read about the oil?

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]and do u still think barrichelo has the same car/status in the team as michael ?

Status: no.
Car: Yes. You see, when Barrichello is good, he's good, but that doesn't happen too often.

Sure Schumi has the #1 position in Ferrari, but that does not mean Ruben's gets a car that is any less capable. This is not renault (if u know what i mean

)!!

Rt

shravan316 · 21st September 2004, 20:14

Guys, don't you think its a little too early to decide?? I mean, JV is still to race!!

Stratos · 22nd September 2004, 01:12

Michael for me..anyday!! oh! yeah!! i would vote for Alonso..someday.. so watch this space!!

Wraith · 22nd September 2004, 11:30

Michael is the best

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]there was an oil leak which got oil onto his tyres.. thus causing him to skid..

Where did u get this info??? Let us know please....

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]and do u still think barrichelo has the same car/status in the team as michael ?

This has been debated so many times before!!! Dont bring up the same things again and again!!
Barrichello may not have the same status....but he surely drives the same car that Michael does.
If he cant deliver thats his problem.

Peace!

Hatari · 22nd September 2004, 20:43

sorry about monza guys..confused it with spa for a min.
it was his own fault at monza.. said he took the corner too fast n bounced off the kerb awkwardly..

coming back to ms & rb..
dont u guys remember sometime last yr or 2 yrs back..
when ms took rb's car before qualifying because his wasnt handling too well ?
and ms that race btw..
( wish i cud remember which one it was.. but it did happen )

and for the status..
ms is always on the more aggressive strategy - 3 stop vs 2 stop for RB
( it was the opposite at monza after ms had secured the WDC )
...now that doesnt give him a fair chance..

now coming to DNFs..
u think RB having ALL the failures is just pure coincidence ?

F50 · 22nd September 2004, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Hatari @ Sep. 22 2004,19:13)]coming back to ms & rb..
dont u guys remember sometime last yr or 2 yrs back..
when ms took rb's car before qualifying because his wasnt handling too well ?
and ms that race btw..
( wish i cud remember which one it was.. but it did happen )

It was San Marino .... Correct me if im wrong plz..
Not only in qualifying but Schumi raced in RB's car ... And he won ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Hatari @ Sep. 22 2004,19:13)]now coming to DNFs..
u think RB having ALL the failures is just pure coincidence ?

This is the perfect example and may be the answer to your question about failures, Schumi took his car n won it had no problems what so ever ....
And dont rule out LUCK.
Example RB's in Brazil

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21st September 2004, 15:18	#2
Hatari Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,901 Thanked: 926 Times	i wud have to say michael he's been flawless right through..
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21st September 2004, 16:26	#3
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,769 Thanked: 4,278 Times	Michael Schumacher... dont need to say a reason why Dippy
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21st September 2004, 16:43	#4
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,765 Thanked: 371 Times View My Garage	i hate to follow the crowd, but Schumi has been THE driver of 2004. His car may be a bit better, but look at a Rubens' pace in the same car. That really shows that extra magic schumi brings with him. Button would be the runner up though. The let down for me this season has been Alonso. I expected a lot from him, but he has really failed to deliver. Trulli has been better than him most of the season. Also, Alonso has made too many mistakes, the most recent of which wa spinning off on his own in Monza. He's still one of my favorite drivers though, right after MS and Fissichella. Rt
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21st September 2004, 17:05	#5
aggressive_anush BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 98 Thanked: 2 Times	Personally my favourite driver is Kimi... but button has been doing really well this year.... Kimi's had more than his share of badluck,.... really unfortunate.. I am not a big fan of MS at all... actually i dont like him even a little bit... he definitely is a good driver but methinks this year it was ferrari that were just so superior that nobody got anywhere close... Anyways... looking forward to next year.. im sure kimi will win
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21st September 2004, 15:13	#1
speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,167 Thanked: 742 Times View My Garage	guys , who according to you is this year's best F1 driver. its button for me.and then kimi. even though MS has dominated ,i think its aslo because of a superior car and tire made specifically for him. but BAR have started from scratch and its only Button who has really matched MS in any way. though i am a Kimi fan,i feel button was the best and he is the one to watch for in the williams next year speedsatya
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21st September 2004, 18:02	#6
Aditya Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 20,085 Thanked: 86,570 Times View My Garage	My personal favourites are Kimi Raikkonen and Mark Webber. I'm not even a Ferrari fan when it comes to Formula 1. But, I must admit that the best driver of 2004 is Michael Schumacher.
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21st September 2004, 18:33	#7
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,770 Thanked: 322,387 Times View My Garage	Michael Schumacher - And I'd be surprised if anyone has doubts why. Button is probably the most improved...but the topic asks whos the best! GTO
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21st September 2004, 18:52	#8
dipen Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,304 Thanked: 975 Times	dominating 5 years is not a joke. consistency and this long is something really awesome MS deserves all the credit he has got.
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21st September 2004, 19:10	#9
Hatari Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,901 Thanked: 926 Times	rtech.. alonso didnt spin off onhis own at monza.. there was an oil leak which got oil onto his tyres.. thus causing him to skid.. and do u still think barrichelo has the same car/status in the team as michael ?
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21st September 2004, 20:14	#11
shravan316 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,029 Thanked: 10 Times	Guys, don't you think its a little too early to decide?? I mean, JV is still to race!!
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22nd September 2004, 01:12	#12
Stratos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,611 Thanked: 1,602 Times View My Garage	Michael for me..anyday!! oh! yeah!! i would vote for Alonso..someday.. so watch this space!!
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22nd September 2004, 20:43	#14
Hatari Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,901 Thanked: 926 Times	sorry about monza guys..confused it with spa for a min. it was his own fault at monza.. said he took the corner too fast n bounced off the kerb awkwardly.. coming back to ms & rb.. dont u guys remember sometime last yr or 2 yrs back.. when ms took rb's car before qualifying because his wasnt handling too well ? and ms that race btw.. ( wish i cud remember which one it was.. but it did happen ) and for the status.. ms is always on the more aggressive strategy - 3 stop vs 2 stop for RB ( it was the opposite at monza after ms had secured the WDC ) ...now that doesnt give him a fair chance.. now coming to DNFs.. u think RB having ALL the failures is just pure coincidence ?
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