Hey Everyone...

kimibabe · 13th April 2004, 01:27

Hello All,

To all of you who dont know me....I am just a girl who loves cars, but doesnt know the technical side of it too much...so I am here to learn more from all of you. *I am sure you all will do a great job at it....

And to you moderators, you guys have done a wonderful job with this website....team-bhp indeed does rock!!!

kimibabe

GTO · 13th April 2004, 11:48

To new comers,

KimiB was a regular with us on our previous board - Formula India. Good to have ya with us KB

Hows the Lexus doing? Also any luck with that automatic zen you were checking out?

GTO

v12 · 13th April 2004, 11:55

hey welcome to tbhp kimibabe.

Dippy · 13th April 2004, 12:09

Hey kimibabe great to have you back long time no see .. How was your birthday btw? Any luck with your new car?

Cheers and keep posting

kimibabe · 13th April 2004, 12:33

My aristo is doing great, back in Japan. Out here, finally decided to get a manual Zen. I didnt go in for a second hand, instead the new Zen. In fact I was hoping if any of you could tell me what kind of an average I should be expecting out of the Zen? My Zen came on Feb 9th...so it just a little older than 2 months and right now with the a/c on I am only getting an average of 9.5....how good/bad is that?

kimibabe

Dippy · 13th April 2004, 12:41

Hey Kimi

I drive an AT Zen and that gives me around 11 to the litre. I suppose you should be getting more since urs is a manual . A manual does give atleast 12 or 13 thats what I feel maybe more.

Cheers

Rtech · 13th April 2004, 12:44

How come you bought the Zen Kimi?? What other cars did you look at before deciding on the Zen?

kimibabe · 13th April 2004, 12:50

Well, is it true that you have to wait a while to get a good average when its a new car? One of my cousin's was telling me about it, but am not so sure.....

When I went in for my first service, the guy told me that since its a mpfi, you should put it in the 5th gear when I reach 50....I started doing that...but my driver seems to find it hard to believe..hehe So am wondering what I am doing wrong. Also coz the last I was driving a manual car was 8 years ago...and that too for a very short while then it has always been automatic...so I was wondering if I am driving the correct way or not...haha

Anyway, if any of you have any suggestions, do let me know!

Thanks,
kimibabe

Gordon · 13th April 2004, 13:08

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Quote[/b] ]the guy told me that since its a mpfi, you should put it in the 5th gear when I reach 50....

I guess thats the reason why u r gettin such a low mileage.

need4speed · 14th April 2004, 10:48

Do not go by magazines and what they say about the average mileage your car should be getting. They test in generally ideal conditions. We cannot simulate those conditions, can we? Stop and go traffic, constant shifting of gears, air pressure, wt of the car, nature of driving all contribute to the overall mileage.
I know of atleast two people who own well maintained 5 year old zens, who drive around in suburban traffic getting not more than 10kmpl. If you have a highway stretch in between your trip, that too not in the rush hour, you should see a slight increase in mileage, provided the other factors are also ideal. But expect to brake for that danged rickshaw who pops in front of you and makes u go down from 5th to 3rd.

There goes the mileage out of the window.:

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Shan2nu · 14th April 2004, 11:13

Hey KB, good to have ya back.

Infact i too had been off for a few weeks and was completely lost when i logged in today, didn't knw where to start.

The last time i checked in, we had 161 members and 5000+ posts.

About the FE of your car, check the car manual for the exact gear shifts required to obtain optimum efficiency.

The Vtec needs to reach atleast 75+kmph before you can shift into 5th. The Zen, on that account should have it around the 50-65 mark.

Regards...
Shan2nu

Dippy · 14th April 2004, 11:59

Hey Shantanu great to have you back How were the exams dude?

Cheers

kimibabe · 14th April 2004, 12:03

Thanks guys,

Will check out the manual like you said Shan2nu and see what it says....Hopefully i will have better average soon!!!

kimibabe

Rehaan · 15th April 2004, 00:11

Hi Kimi,

To add to what people have aldready said -
1> ur car is still new...and as the engine gets "looser" and starts running more freely the average will go up.
2> since you have an auto, when u start from a standstill try to accelerate briskly, because if you loiter around slowly the autobox does not upshift and hence u are in a lower gear making ur engine unneccessarily spin faster.

enjoy ur new car!
cya
Rehaan

Rehaan · 15th April 2004, 00:16

Oops.....got confused with the auto thing there......but anyway thats a useful tip so i will just post some more stuff here>

Shifting into 5th gear at 50 is a little too early IMO. 60 would be more comfortable, assuming the car does not have a heavy load in it. Also when driving in a higher gear (4th/5th) drive with a light right foot, and downshift when u want decent acceleration rather than squashing the accellerator.

Also i remember reading the the M800 (4speedversion) would get best fuel efficency at 40km/h in 4th gear.
Why not faster than 40km/h? > because then wind resistance starts to increase rapidly, requiring slightly more effort to push the car forward.

cheers
R

50 might be a tad too early for 5th (esp witha new car), but i think 40km/h is fine to shift into 4th in the zen.

13th April 2004, 01:27	#1
kimibabe Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24 Thanked: Once	Hello All, To all of you who dont know me....I am just a girl who loves cars, but doesnt know the technical side of it too much...so I am here to learn more from all of you. *I am sure you all will do a great job at it.... And to you moderators, you guys have done a wonderful job with this website....team-bhp indeed does rock!!! kimibabe
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13th April 2004, 11:48	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,903 Thanked: 321,996 Times View My Garage	To new comers, KimiB was a regular with us on our previous board - Formula India. Good to have ya with us KB Hows the Lexus doing? Also any luck with that automatic zen you were checking out? GTO
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13th April 2004, 11:55	#3
v12 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,773 Thanked: 7,569 Times View My Garage	hey welcome to tbhp kimibabe.
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13th April 2004, 12:09	#4
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,752 Thanked: 4,204 Times	Hey kimibabe great to have you back long time no see .. How was your birthday btw? Any luck with your new car? Cheers and keep posting
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13th April 2004, 12:33	#5
kimibabe Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24 Thanked: Once	My aristo is doing great, back in Japan. Out here, finally decided to get a manual Zen. I didnt go in for a second hand, instead the new Zen. In fact I was hoping if any of you could tell me what kind of an average I should be expecting out of the Zen? My Zen came on Feb 9th...so it just a little older than 2 months and right now with the a/c on I am only getting an average of 9.5....how good/bad is that? kimibabe
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13th April 2004, 12:41	#6
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,752 Thanked: 4,204 Times	Hey Kimi I drive an AT Zen and that gives me around 11 to the litre. I suppose you should be getting more since urs is a manual . A manual does give atleast 12 or 13 thats what I feel maybe more. Cheers
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13th April 2004, 12:44	#7
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,765 Thanked: 371 Times View My Garage	How come you bought the Zen Kimi?? What other cars did you look at before deciding on the Zen?
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13th April 2004, 12:50	#8
kimibabe Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24 Thanked: Once	Well, is it true that you have to wait a while to get a good average when its a new car? One of my cousin's was telling me about it, but am not so sure..... When I went in for my first service, the guy told me that since its a mpfi, you should put it in the 5th gear when I reach 50....I started doing that...but my driver seems to find it hard to believe..hehe So am wondering what I am doing wrong. Also coz the last I was driving a manual car was 8 years ago...and that too for a very short while then it has always been automatic...so I was wondering if I am driving the correct way or not...haha Anyway, if any of you have any suggestions, do let me know! Thanks, kimibabe
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14th April 2004, 10:48	#10
need4speed BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 117 Thanked: 48 Times	Do not go by magazines and what they say about the average mileage your car should be getting. They test in generally ideal conditions. We cannot simulate those conditions, can we? Stop and go traffic, constant shifting of gears, air pressure, wt of the car, nature of driving all contribute to the overall mileage. I know of atleast two people who own well maintained 5 year old zens, who drive around in suburban traffic getting not more than 10kmpl. If you have a highway stretch in between your trip, that too not in the rush hour, you should see a slight increase in mileage, provided the other factors are also ideal. But expect to brake for that danged rickshaw who pops in front of you and makes u go down from 5th to 3rd. There goes the mileage out of the window.::
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14th April 2004, 11:13	#11
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 127 Times View My Garage	Hey KB, good to have ya back. Infact i too had been off for a few weeks and was completely lost when i logged in today, didn't knw where to start. The last time i checked in, we had 161 members and 5000+ posts. About the FE of your car, check the car manual for the exact gear shifts required to obtain optimum efficiency. The Vtec needs to reach atleast 75+kmph before you can shift into 5th. The Zen, on that account should have it around the 50-65 mark. Regards... Shan2nu
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14th April 2004, 11:59	#12
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,752 Thanked: 4,204 Times	Hey Shantanu great to have you back How were the exams dude? Cheers
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14th April 2004, 12:03	#13
kimibabe Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24 Thanked: Once	Thanks guys, Will check out the manual like you said Shan2nu and see what it says....Hopefully i will have better average soon!!! kimibabe
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15th April 2004, 00:11	#14
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,204 Thanked: 36,088 Times	Hi Kimi, To add to what people have aldready said - 1> ur car is still new...and as the engine gets "looser" and starts running more freely the average will go up. 2> since you have an auto, when u start from a standstill try to accelerate briskly, because if you loiter around slowly the autobox does not upshift and hence u are in a lower gear making ur engine unneccessarily spin faster. enjoy ur new car! cya Rehaan
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15th April 2004, 00:16	#15
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,204 Thanked: 36,088 Times	Oops.....got confused with the auto thing there......but anyway thats a useful tip so i will just post some more stuff here> Shifting into 5th gear at 50 is a little too early IMO. 60 would be more comfortable, assuming the car does not have a heavy load in it. Also when driving in a higher gear (4th/5th) drive with a light right foot, and downshift when u want decent acceleration rather than squashing the accellerator. Also i remember reading the the M800 (4speedversion) would get best fuel efficency at 40km/h in 4th gear. Why not faster than 40km/h? > because then wind resistance starts to increase rapidly, requiring slightly more effort to push the car forward. cheers R 50 might be a tad too early for 5th (esp witha new car), but i think 40km/h is fine to shift into 4th in the zen.
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