Corsa Sail 1.6 29k review

esteem_lover · 22nd May 2007, 14:59

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Originally Posted by gkrishn

Wait.

At 1500rpm... the speed comes to almost 30kmph. Will it be possible to take a hairpin bend at that speed?!?!?
May be it should have been at around 1200 or 1300.

At that RPM in 3rd gear with load & climbing uphill, your engine is surely knocking. It is almost idling speed. Ok just over that.
Why would you do that ?

deepakhon · 22nd May 2007, 15:37

Good review there.
Waynad hairpins are fine. I have taken them at 1500 rpm in 3rd gear too. But my Palio 1.2 struggled with Ooty ones, especially when climbing up. I had to be on 1 gear most of the times because revs can climb till 3k, but the car will not move very well. I did the mistake of changing to 2nd gear at 4k revs. I found out the big gap between 1 and 2 gears.

esteem_lover · 22nd May 2007, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepakhon

Good review there.
Waynad hairpins are fine. I have taken them at 1500 rpm in 3rd gear too. But my Palio 1.2 struggled with Ooty ones, especially when climbing up. I had to be on 1 gear most of the times because revs can climb till 3k, but the car will not move very well. I did the mistake of changing to 2nd gear at 4k revs. I found out the big gap between 1 and 2 gears.

Now it is clear. I was beginning to think that the sail is a super car.

deepakhon · 22nd May 2007, 15:48

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

Now it is clear. I was beginning to think that the sail is a super car.

Ha ha ha...
Actually, when I was looking for a car around 4 years ago, I had test driven sail too. But I could not get how Sail 1.4 behaved because the guys at Garuda gave me a 1.6 Sail to "test drive the hatchback" and 1.4 Corsa Sedan to "test drive the engine" and it was the same with Sundaram.

Vgargcnb · 22nd May 2007, 15:58

I have an Opel Corsa 1.6 Sail. Done 80,000 Kms.
Sluggishness at low RPM is pronounced, and need to switch of AC or shift to a lower gear.
Fuel Efficiency is 9 KMPL in Delhi in summers & 10.5 KMPL in winters, however easily you drive.
Has given me its fair share of troubles, including 2 clutch replacements, radiator fan, A/C Switch, Power Windows Switch replacement(Under Warranty).
Ground clearance is extremely low and i scrape the bottom every day. However, no damage to silencer. Water enters the driver side footwell when going through even shallow puddles.
The rear windscreen shattered twice when the car was new, maybe because of faulty rear defogger.
Overall, GM service is nothing great to talk about. They have improved, but still a long way to go.
Plus points are excellent ride, build quality(no sounds even after 80K kms)

Overall, an expensive car to run & maintain. Would not buy it again, or any other GM car for that matter.

wheelsNsqueals · 10th September 2007, 21:16

Great review. I have had a very happy time with my Corsa 1.6 sail for the last 4 years. The only issue is FE, which has decreased over the years. Guess a through tuning and de-carbonisation is required. I use normal fuel with system G. The FE is very erratic. In Mumbai traffic the FE goes between 6 to 9kmpl. Like last week I kept a watch on FE and with approximately 90% city and 10% highway driving, I got around 134kms with 15 litres. In the next fill, I got only 93km for 15 litres. This time it was pure nightmarish Mumbai traffic though. The highway efficiency is great. I get an average of 15kmpl FE.

Beyond the FE issue, its a very comfortable car to drive. I have regularly done 165+ on Pune expressway and beaten the hell out of other cars. It does take a bit of time to reach there, but once it does, she handles superbly.

Did not have any major issues with A.S.S (Fortpoint, Worli). Only since the last 3 days, after traversing the lunar landscape for some regular visits to Mahape, a screeching noise has developed in the left shocker and becomes pronounced when I go over speedbreakers.

Even though I have booked a NHC and awaiting delivery, I really love this car. I would be sad to sell it, though it has to be done since I do not have a parking slot to keep it.

Freecat · 12th September 2007, 16:19

Good review GK. It is useful as I am going for 20K service at Sundaram, Chennai. I am missing the Garuda guys here.

I experience a 10.5 kmpl FE constantly on my 1.6 in Chennai trafic (obiviously with AC on). I never cross 2K rpm on my tacho. Highway is 15+ and it is 16+ if it is Chennai Bangalore.

Your info on Mobile and 3M detailing are very usefull too. I am planning to do 3M detailing along with this service.

vasudeva · 12th September 2007, 16:49

For all its worth, I have a Corsa 1.4 GSI bought in Oct 2003. Although the ride quality and comfort remain good and the same, what has changed over the past 1 year has been an increase in repairs and maintenance, and that too with only around 30K on the odo. FE remains at around 10-11 kmpl in summers. Although gearbox is a problem, I feel that the trick is to move into the 3rd gear as quickly as possible (at speeds of 20-25 kmph). After 2nd/3rd gear, the gearbox ceases to be an issue, and 3rd-5th gears are smooth enough. Also of complaint is the inconsistent GM service quality and paint jobs. They simply do not bother to match the painted portion with the unpainted one (in Delhi at least, and at least for British Motors/Shiva). I have had a good experience with Corsa, but sorry no more GM for me for the time being.

amit27 · 12th September 2007, 20:26

I also have a experence with my Opel Corsa .Tough to beat service but service sucks big time . This means no more GM cars for me . I purchased my mine in 2002 car did 22,000 km's got transferred to Chandigarh took it for servicing and to fix a rattling noise in the door . Guy tells me suspension gone 30 , 000 bucks took it to a local mechanic who charged nothing and justs opened the door put a washer and screwed it back again . No rattle for next 3 years . There are most such stories will reserve it for sometime later

sAP · 14th September 2007, 19:26

sAP · 14th September 2007, 19:31

Sorry that link list looks crazy. It was much shorter in the preview.

kolimuttai · 25th March 2008, 15:09

Hey, I got a 1.6 Sail. The suspension is all Ok, but with 4+1 people, near VV Puram College, Bangalore, I had tough time in crossing the speed bump (stupid guys, they have like 4 speed bumps in 300 meters). I tried my best, but still heard that scratch sound, my heart literally broke, the plate that covers the O2 sensor is scratched.. Is there any way that I can increase the ground clearance? If possible, are there any side effects?

~Koli.

22nd May 2007, 15:37	#17
deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 65 Times	Good review there. Waynad hairpins are fine. I have taken them at 1500 rpm in 3rd gear too. But my Palio 1.2 struggled with Ooty ones, especially when climbing up. I had to be on 1 gear most of the times because revs can climb till 3k, but the car will not move very well. I did the mistake of changing to 2nd gear at 4k revs. I found out the big gap between 1 and 2 gears.
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22nd May 2007, 15:58	#20
Vgargcnb Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	I have an Opel Corsa 1.6 Sail. Done 80,000 Kms. Sluggishness at low RPM is pronounced, and need to switch of AC or shift to a lower gear. Fuel Efficiency is 9 KMPL in Delhi in summers & 10.5 KMPL in winters, however easily you drive. Has given me its fair share of troubles, including 2 clutch replacements, radiator fan, A/C Switch, Power Windows Switch replacement(Under Warranty). Ground clearance is extremely low and i scrape the bottom every day. However, no damage to silencer. Water enters the driver side footwell when going through even shallow puddles. The rear windscreen shattered twice when the car was new, maybe because of faulty rear defogger. Overall, GM service is nothing great to talk about. They have improved, but still a long way to go. Plus points are excellent ride, build quality(no sounds even after 80K kms) Overall, an expensive car to run & maintain. Would not buy it again, or any other GM car for that matter.
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10th September 2007, 21:16	#21
wheelsNsqueals BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai and Calcutta Posts: 96 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Great review. I have had a very happy time with my Corsa 1.6 sail for the last 4 years. The only issue is FE, which has decreased over the years. Guess a through tuning and de-carbonisation is required. I use normal fuel with system G. The FE is very erratic. In Mumbai traffic the FE goes between 6 to 9kmpl. Like last week I kept a watch on FE and with approximately 90% city and 10% highway driving, I got around 134kms with 15 litres. In the next fill, I got only 93km for 15 litres. This time it was pure nightmarish Mumbai traffic though. The highway efficiency is great. I get an average of 15kmpl FE. Beyond the FE issue, its a very comfortable car to drive. I have regularly done 165+ on Pune expressway and beaten the hell out of other cars. It does take a bit of time to reach there, but once it does, she handles superbly. Did not have any major issues with A.S.S (Fortpoint, Worli). Only since the last 3 days, after traversing the lunar landscape for some regular visits to Mahape, a screeching noise has developed in the left shocker and becomes pronounced when I go over speedbreakers. Even though I have booked a NHC and awaiting delivery, I really love this car. I would be sad to sell it, though it has to be done since I do not have a parking slot to keep it.
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12th September 2007, 16:19	#22
Freecat Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	Good review GK. It is useful as I am going for 20K service at Sundaram, Chennai. I am missing the Garuda guys here. I experience a 10.5 kmpl FE constantly on my 1.6 in Chennai trafic (obiviously with AC on). I never cross 2K rpm on my tacho. Highway is 15+ and it is 16+ if it is Chennai Bangalore. Your info on Mobile and 3M detailing are very usefull too. I am planning to do 3M detailing along with this service.
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12th September 2007, 16:49	#23
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,221 Thanked: 212 Times	For all its worth, I have a Corsa 1.4 GSI bought in Oct 2003. Although the ride quality and comfort remain good and the same, what has changed over the past 1 year has been an increase in repairs and maintenance, and that too with only around 30K on the odo. FE remains at around 10-11 kmpl in summers. Although gearbox is a problem, I feel that the trick is to move into the 3rd gear as quickly as possible (at speeds of 20-25 kmph). After 2nd/3rd gear, the gearbox ceases to be an issue, and 3rd-5th gears are smooth enough. Also of complaint is the inconsistent GM service quality and paint jobs. They simply do not bother to match the painted portion with the unpainted one (in Delhi at least, and at least for British Motors/Shiva). I have had a good experience with Corsa, but sorry no more GM for me for the time being.
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12th September 2007, 20:26	#24
amit27 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Guragaon Posts: 173 Thanked: 0 Times	My Opel Corsa 1.6 I also have a experence with my Opel Corsa .Tough to beat service but service sucks big time . This means no more GM cars for me . I purchased my mine in 2002 car did 22,000 km's got transferred to Chandigarh took it for servicing and to fix a rattling noise in the door . Guy tells me suspension gone 30 , 000 bucks took it to a local mechanic who charged nothing and justs opened the door put a washer and screwed it back again . No rattle for next 3 years . There are most such stories will reserve it for sometime later
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14th September 2007, 19:26	#25
sAP BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 10000 Lakes Posts: 283 Thanked: 55 Times View My Garage	1.4L Sail Nice to hear about several varied experiences on the Corsa. I have a 1.4 SAIL with some minor aftermarket shock/ spring upgrades (see photo gallery). Some interesting experiences have come my way as well. Not all of them are related to the Corsa though. Some threads: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...oy-wheels.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-b...2th-march.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motor-...y-chennai.html A few pic posts: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/174548-post143.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/176605-post184.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/177089-post190.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/177101-post191.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/398180-post3.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/398261-post6.html sAP Last edited by sAP : 14th September 2007 at 19:34. Reason: Swapped to the threads first, then the pics
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14th September 2007, 19:31	#26
sAP BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 10000 Lakes Posts: 283 Thanked: 55 Times View My Garage	preview vs submit Sorry that link list looks crazy. It was much shorter in the preview.
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25th March 2008, 15:09	#27
kolimuttai BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: BLR \| Chennai Posts: 108 Thanked: 14 Times	Hey, I got a 1.6 Sail. The suspension is all Ok, but with 4+1 people, near VV Puram College, Bangalore, I had tough time in crossing the speed bump (stupid guys, they have like 4 speed bumps in 300 meters). I tried my best, but still heard that scratch sound, my heart literally broke, the plate that covers the O2 sensor is scratched.. Is there any way that I can increase the ground clearance? If possible, are there any side effects? ~Koli.
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