Honda Woes

Torque-ative · 26th November 2007, 17:15

Ok This is too much of a coincidence.

Company Car / NHC CVT 2003, 47k km : All fourdoor locks replaced, entire electrical steering control replaced (wash / wipe, Headlight controls, indicator controls). Left front window channel broke. (To be replaced) Expenses incurred around Rs.5500/-

Personal Car / NHC GXI 2006, 21 k km: Wash / wipe controls sudenly stop functioning. Might need replacement Expenses I've been told around Rs.1200/-

Collegues Car Accord V6 2004: Entire electrical system faliure. Expenses incurred. Rs.45,000/-

Whats with these cars and their electricals,..is it just us or are there more out there. Keep in mind that I have only considered non-scheduled maintainance expenses here. All cars are stock with "no" aftermarket fitments, including ICE.

Sahil · 26th November 2007, 17:24

This is quite surprising...currently own 6 Hondas and have never had any electrical problems....German cars are more prone to electrical glitches.

Torque-ative · 26th November 2007, 17:30

May be I sould contact the Honda company reps. !!
Relaibility was on top of recall when I got myself a Honda !! Its shattered never the less.

dadu · 26th November 2007, 18:06

We've got one at hand, nothing is invincible in this world, be it Honda...or Toyota.

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Originally Posted by Sahil

This is quite surprising...currently own 6 Hondas and have never had any electrical problems....German cars are more prone to electrical glitches.

Zappo · 26th November 2007, 19:03

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Originally Posted by dadu

We've got one at hand, nothing is invincible in this world, be it Honda...or Toyota.

...or Tata. No, I am not actually trying to put in a pun. The fact is, as dadu said, any mechanical thing can face problems. Probably also depends on the vendor. And even the big auto marquees can fall to such wayward components. Only difference is that a Toyota (or a Honda) gets a response like "What, a Toyotaaaa?" whereas a Tata always gets the sneer "Tata, eh!"

I think you should get in touch with Honda and present all three cases together so that they can not try those "hota hai... too bad... but you gotta pay for this" trick. Let them understand that this is a one-off case thingy will not work in these cases.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 26th November 2007, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Zappo

Only difference is that a Toyota (or a Honda) gets a response like "What, a Toyotaaaa?" whereas a Tata always gets the sneer "Tata, eh!"

Very well said!

A power window failure in a Swift is not considered a big deal. People take it with 'oh! its common'! However, if the same thing happens on a new honda/toyota, its considered a big deal. Thats human nature.

Torque-ative · 27th November 2007, 12:44

Quality is considered a big deal on these cars (Honda specially) as you pay as high as a 25% premium for these brands !!

Hoping that their QC would be tighter,..hoping they would ensure their vendors would'nt cut corners,..and give you a more reliable car. Not really true always,..is it !!
And then there is the all too infamous authorised service center who deliver substandard jobs in most cases, especially if you're getting a paint job !! You expect a clean room and no moisture in the paint (Bubbling) when its 12 k you pay to repair a nick.

GTO · 27th November 2007, 16:43

Hi Torque-ative

Your personal car (2006 NHC) should be in the warranty period, right? Why would you be asked to pay for a faulty part then?

I am surprised to hear about the complete electrical system replacement in a 3 year old Accord.

five46 · 27th November 2007, 23:20

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Originally Posted by GTO

Hi Torque-ative

I am surprised to hear about the complete electrical system replacement in a 3 year old Accord.

... And I'm surprised to see a bill of jus 45K for entire Electrical System replacement in a Honda!!

vasudeva · 28th November 2007, 10:48

Why expenses on 2006 NHC. I suggest instead of getting fobbed off by the dealer, write directly to Honda via their website, detailing all your problems and alongwith your lament about the quality. I have done that earlier and the response to me was swift (in hours) as well as the retribution to the dealer. I think wash/wipe controls should be under warranty, and a strong letter to Honda should do the trick and save you money.

anandpadhye · 28th November 2007, 11:27

3 different model years, 3 different models...so it can not be a problem with a particular batch of cars/components.

I think Honda will also be interested to study these cases.

Any peculiar usage/storage pattern common to the 3 cars that comes to your mind, @Torqu-ative?

No offense meant to anyone, just trying to debug. Any problem, once fixed, looks so easy!

26th November 2007, 17:15	#1
Torque-ative BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 500 Thanked: 90 Times	Honda Woes Ok This is too much of a coincidence. Company Car / NHC CVT 2003, 47k km : All fourdoor locks replaced, entire electrical steering control replaced (wash / wipe, Headlight controls, indicator controls). Left front window channel broke. (To be replaced) Expenses incurred around Rs.5500/- Personal Car / NHC GXI 2006, 21 k km: Wash / wipe controls sudenly stop functioning. Might need replacement Expenses I've been told around Rs.1200/- Collegues Car Accord V6 2004: Entire electrical system faliure. Expenses incurred. Rs.45,000/- Whats with these cars and their electricals,..is it just us or are there more out there. Keep in mind that I have only considered non-scheduled maintainance expenses here. All cars are stock with "no" aftermarket fitments, including ICE.
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26th November 2007, 17:24	#2
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,322 Thanked: 7,766 Times	This is quite surprising...currently own 6 Hondas and have never had any electrical problems....German cars are more prone to electrical glitches.
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26th November 2007, 17:30	#3
Torque-ative BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 500 Thanked: 90 Times	May be I sould contact the Honda company reps. !! Relaibility was on top of recall when I got myself a Honda !! Its shattered never the less.
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27th November 2007, 12:44	#7
Torque-ative BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 500 Thanked: 90 Times	Quality is considered a big deal on these cars (Honda specially) as you pay as high as a 25% premium for these brands !! Hoping that their QC would be tighter,..hoping they would ensure their vendors would'nt cut corners,..and give you a more reliable car. Not really true always,..is it !! And then there is the all too infamous authorised service center who deliver substandard jobs in most cases, especially if you're getting a paint job !! You expect a clean room and no moisture in the paint (Bubbling) when its 12 k you pay to repair a nick.
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27th November 2007, 16:43	#8
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,517 Thanked: 309,527 Times View My Garage	Hi Torque-ative Your personal car (2006 NHC) should be in the warranty period, right? Why would you be asked to pay for a faulty part then? I am surprised to hear about the complete electrical system replacement in a 3 year old Accord.
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28th November 2007, 10:48	#10
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,223 Thanked: 212 Times	Why expenses on 2006 NHC. I suggest instead of getting fobbed off by the dealer, write directly to Honda via their website, detailing all your problems and alongwith your lament about the quality. I have done that earlier and the response to me was swift (in hours) as well as the retribution to the dealer. I think wash/wipe controls should be under warranty, and a strong letter to Honda should do the trick and save you money.
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28th November 2007, 11:27	#11
anandpadhye Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 3,057 Thanked: 3,328 Times	3 different model years, 3 different models...so it can not be a problem with a particular batch of cars/components. I think Honda will also be interested to study these cases. Any peculiar usage/storage pattern common to the 3 cars that comes to your mind, @Torqu-ative? No offense meant to anyone, just trying to debug. Any problem, once fixed, looks so easy!
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