Engine remaping in bikes(AMI, DTSI etc)

mail4ajo · 5th April 2006, 12:54

I read about engine remapping in another section. Is this possible on indian bikes like the Ambitions or Pulsars which has AMI (Advanced Microproccessor Induction) and the DTSI?

Can anyone enlighten me on this and let me know who does this in Chennai? I have heard of Pete's for cars. Who does this on bikes??

BUSA · 5th April 2006, 19:43

Well vipers box can be installed cant it? But i am wondering after installation wont it be over powerful it gives 20bhp and bikes are less then 20 atleast in India.

mail4ajo · 5th April 2006, 20:28

Busa,

Can you tell me more about Vipers Box. Does this work like petes? Where can I source it and wats the approx price?

Mpower · 5th April 2006, 21:00

Vipers box is for MPFI cars. Indian bikes have carburettors.

mail4ajo · 5th April 2006, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Vipers box is for MPFI cars. Indian bikes have carburettors.

I know this. Most Indian Bikes now have chips like AMI, DIFI LOGIC, DTSI. Can these chips or ECUs as they are called, be manipulated to increase performance. Thats my doubt.

Petes tuning box does this by basically sending wrong signals to the ECU to inject more fuel, hence giving better performance. I guess this work only with Fuel injection vechicles

buzzin_hornets · 5th April 2006, 22:34

vipers box is more to do with the map sensors than the ecu.. newayz i doubt it will work on an indian bike, yet pm viper n see what he has to say..

~cheers
-Ash

BUSA · 5th April 2006, 22:38

No i am so sorry its only going to work with FI bikes. Why dont you tune your bike for performance?

mail4ajo · 5th April 2006, 23:49

Yes Mr. Busa,

I thought so.

1. Do you have an idea on how to decrease the sound from free flow exhausts?

2. What is Cam profiling?

3. I am changing my CARB jets. Do I need to change both the jets ie main and slow or just one??

4. I plan to use the CBZ jets on my HH Ambition. What increase in BHP can I expect?

kkr2k2 · 25th November 2006, 21:17

1. What about the HH Glamour FI, can it be remapped?? it has a FI and an ECU.

2. I also happen to read in one of the posts here, that for a vehicle with FI if KN filter is installed, the ECU takes care of sending in more fuel, so no need of up-jetting. Is it true for the Glamour FI?

P.S. Glamour produces only 9bhp. Thats too low for a 125cc engine and boasts of latest technology !!! (a 100 cc bajaj platina produce 8.2bhp, while a 125cc Bajaj discover dtsi produce 11bhp). How much increase in power possible with remapping for Glamour FI?

Nikhilb2008 · 25th November 2006, 21:35

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2. I also happen to read in one of the posts here, that for a vehicle with FI if KN filter is installed, the ECU takes care of sending in more fuel, so no need of up-jetting. Is it true for the Glamour FI?

I dont think FI bikes have JETS

....no carbs, so no jets......

kkr2k2 · 25th November 2006, 21:44

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Originally Posted by nikhilb2008

I dont think FI bikes have JETS

....no carbs, so no jets......

well, i meant no need of adjustments to be made to the FI

fieroid · 26th November 2006, 02:09

@mail4ajo - there is no engine management system for a carb set-up but yes u can use digitally operated CDI for ignition and thats what bikes like the fiero, amb, pulsie use.
For our indian bikes we can make use of better CDI's and ign system that can give higher spark strength and a higher rev limit. This will sure improve power in all ranges.

Mpower · 27th November 2006, 01:51

May be possble on the Glamour 125 Fi

kkr2k2 · 27th November 2006, 03:14

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Originally Posted by Mpower

May be possble on the Glamour 125 Fi

well i am not looking for just a possibility type of answer. Instead i am looking for a more specific answer for my questions , may be from an expert.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkr2k2

1. What about the HH Glamour FI, can it be remapped?? it has a FI and an ECU.

2. I also happen to read in one of the posts here, that for a vehicle with FI if KN filter is installed, the ECU takes care of sending in more fuel, so no need of up-jetting. Is it true for the Glamour FI?

3. Glamour produces only 9bhp. Thats too low for a 125cc engine and boasts of latest technology !!! (a 100 cc bajaj platina produce 8.2bhp, while a 125cc Bajaj discover dtsi produce 11bhp). How much increase in power possible with remapping for Glamour FI?

garvit2002 · 27th November 2006, 20:40

i dont know abt remappin the chips but the whole engine overhaul can be done. i read one at xbhp where a member has developed a 200cc apache

5th April 2006, 12:54	#1
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,957 Thanked: 331 Times View My Garage	Engine remaping in bikes(AMI, DTSI etc) I read about engine remapping in another section. Is this possible on indian bikes like the Ambitions or Pulsars which has AMI (Advanced Microproccessor Induction) and the DTSI? Can anyone enlighten me on this and let me know who does this in Chennai? I have heard of Pete's for cars. Who does this on bikes??
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5th April 2006, 19:43	#2
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Well vipers box can be installed cant it? But i am wondering after installation wont it be over powerful it gives 20bhp and bikes are less then 20 atleast in India.
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5th April 2006, 20:28	#3
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,957 Thanked: 331 Times View My Garage	Busa, Can you tell me more about Vipers Box. Does this work like petes? Where can I source it and wats the approx price?
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5th April 2006, 21:00	#4
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Vipers box is for MPFI cars. Indian bikes have carburettors.
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5th April 2006, 22:34	#6
buzzin_hornets BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 236 Thanked: Once View My Garage	vipers box is more to do with the map sensors than the ecu.. newayz i doubt it will work on an indian bike, yet pm viper n see what he has to say.. ~cheers -Ash
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5th April 2006, 22:38	#7
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	No i am so sorry its only going to work with FI bikes. Why dont you tune your bike for performance?
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5th April 2006, 23:49	#8
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,957 Thanked: 331 Times View My Garage	Yes Mr. Busa, I thought so. 1. Do you have an idea on how to decrease the sound from free flow exhausts? 2. What is Cam profiling? 3. I am changing my CARB jets. Do I need to change both the jets ie main and slow or just one?? 4. I plan to use the CBZ jets on my HH Ambition. What increase in BHP can I expect?
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25th November 2006, 21:17	#9
kkr2k2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Melbourne, Hyd Posts: 1,294 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	HH Glamour FI 1. What about the HH Glamour FI, can it be remapped?? it has a FI and an ECU. 2. I also happen to read in one of the posts here, that for a vehicle with FI if KN filter is installed, the ECU takes care of sending in more fuel, so no need of up-jetting. Is it true for the Glamour FI? P.S. Glamour produces only 9bhp. Thats too low for a 125cc engine and boasts of latest technology !!! (a 100 cc bajaj platina produce 8.2bhp, while a 125cc Bajaj discover dtsi produce 11bhp). How much increase in power possible with remapping for Glamour FI?
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26th November 2006, 02:09	#12
fieroid BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 706 Thanked: 304 Times	@mail4ajo - there is no engine management system for a carb set-up but yes u can use digitally operated CDI for ignition and thats what bikes like the fiero, amb, pulsie use. For our indian bikes we can make use of better CDI's and ign system that can give higher spark strength and a higher rev limit. This will sure improve power in all ranges.
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27th November 2006, 01:51	#13
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	May be possble on the Glamour 125 Fi
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27th November 2006, 20:40	#15
garvit2002 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Jaipur Posts: 241 Thanked: 2 Times	i dont know abt remappin the chips but the whole engine overhaul can be done. i read one at xbhp where a member has developed a 200cc apache
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