Team-BHP - 2023 Yamaha Aerox priced at Rs. 1,42,800

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Originally Posted by HYPERTOURER (Post 5526036)

This is what is updated on the Aerox.1 New color and combi braking system along with traction control and a hazard light switch. No other changes.

Thank you HYPERTOURER!

So no changes to the suspension done even with the update, another one bites the dust for me. For a person wanting a change in the suspension has only aftermarket to rely on. Problem with this is there can be no try and buy unfortunately.

Only one colour added for India I guess because internationally there are quite a few other colours as per the Internet.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by HYPERTOURER (Post 5526036)

This is what is updated on the Aerox.1 New color and combi braking system along with traction control and a hazard light switch. No other changes.

Is it possible to get traction control with a disc + drum setup? My understanding was that you need disc + disc and dual channel ABS for a traction control system to work.

Also, presuming they updated for BS6-Phase 2/OBD2 norms. Wondering if the engine sees any tuning change to comply with the norms over the standard BS6 engine that we have on the current Aerox.

Kind of disappointed that they didn't change the suspensions. That has been the biggest pain point on this otherwise wonderful scooter. But it helps not give me any buyers remorse since I just got mine some days ago :coldsweat

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Originally Posted by quicksilver101 (Post 5526096)

Is it possible to get traction control with a disc + drum setup? My understanding was that you need disc + disc and dual channel ABS for a traction control system to work....

I understand that traction control in motorcycles (in general) work by sensing differential wheel speed between the front and rear wheels and apply a combination of throttle modulation and brakes to prevent rear wheel slippage. I am not sure how the Aerox TCS works, with its single channel ABS. Perhaps the rear wheel also has a speed sensor, along with its drum brake? Hypertourer in his post below mentioned combi-braking as a new feature. However, the brochure only states 'single-channel ABS' and does not mention combi-brakes.

The engine is now E20 petrol compliant. The brochure in their website, however, does not detail any changes in engine performance. I suppose we need to wait till the vehicles arrive at the dealership for more information.

That 'solid' rear suspension appears to have been retained - my guess is that it's an over-design specific to our area - to cater for overloading and to prevent bottoming out over our craterous potholes with two beefy Indian dudes on-board! Yamaha probably expects the Aeroxs in SE Asia to have more slender riders, I suppose. Hence the softer suspension for those regions. Notwithstanding all that, they should at least be offering these as options through their dealerships.

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Originally Posted by Rigid Rotor (Post 5526171)

Tcs on bikes afaik only cut the ignition (spark) for a split second until the tyre regains traction. They don't touch the brakes at all. Only abs system will modulate brakes.

New Aerox for 2023 has been launched. It gets TCS too.
https://www.yamaha-motor-india.com/n...w-variant.html

I had booked mine in Blue colour on April 2nd. Canceled it and booked Reflex Silver again yesterday but dealer said he cannot commit when I will get delivery of Silver. Blue one I would receive within this month.

The suspension is not the only negative, any prospective buyers should check out the pillion seat and positioning if you are going two up.

This is one scooter that really broke my heart, had such high expectations and while it lived up to a lot of them, disappointed on some critical aspects that I sold it off within a year.

I considered the previous gen Aerox and dropped it only because it doesn't have in-dash navigation. Sad to see they haven't added the feature yet inspite of having Bluetooth connectivity. Even NTorq has it but I couldn't digest the fact that a touring scooter meant for long rides, costing 1.8L in Bangalore doesn't have this simple feature.

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Originally Posted by jaganm (Post 5527130)

The suspension is not the only negative,.

Hello, I have booked one. Request you to provide all other negatives that you experienced (except suspension/pillion seat discomfort)

The issues that I am aware of are these (apart from suspension)
1. Potential battery drainage due to Bluetooth Module
2. Water ingress causing rust around fuel cap
3. Lack of readily available bodyguard in market. Either install expensive aftermarket ones or risk damage to parts that are difficult for Yamaha dealers to source, if damaged.
4. Some riders find footwell area cramped. Tall riders may also brush their knees.
5. Braking performance is not satisfactory. Rear brakes could have been discs instead of drums at this price point

I am not considering the presence of spine as a problem area (Because that is visible to the buyer)

I personally feel, that instead of viewing Aerox as a scooter, if one can see it as a bike without gears, along with added practicality of decent underseat storage and good performance, It may become more attractive.

I do not understand why many hate the rear suspension of the Aerox but my Aprilia SR150 first gen is a lot worse. SR150 makes all the potholes on the road felt by the driver. I honestly feel that all the road engineers need to be given this bike to test the smoothness of the roads.

Aerox on the other hand can be stiff at times but I believe it is not that bad in any sense. I have driven both of them on the harshest of the potholed roads of Bangalore and i feel Aerox is far far refined in many ways. the 2nd gen SR150 seemed a little better but the test drive was only restricted to 50 meters anyway. so, not sure about that.

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Can some owners comment if traction control was really required?
I did a couple of longish test rides and the scooter never felt powerful enough to need traction control. They could have given adjustable suspension instead.

Not in my opinion. I never felt the need for traction control on Aerox. Did not feel it that powerful. Also, CVT limits the engine from being peppy unlike R15.

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Originally Posted by flashgo (Post 5527541)

Suspension feeling (hard, soft or comfortable) is a perception which varies from individual to individual and their tolerance. I am also among the people who found the Aerox suspension hard and the SR 150 as well. Degrees vary but definitely uncomfortable to ride for any length of time.

The difference which should matter to Yamaha should be that a majority of people find this suspension unliveable. There are people like me who would like to buy this scooter but don’t because of this reason. They should do something about this as again a majority of owners are going for aftermarket suspensions. The issue with this for me is there can be no try and buy, it would have to be a roll of the dice.

Cheers