[TusharK]

Triumph has launched a new affordable variant of the Speed 400 called the ‘Speed T4’. It is priced at Rs 2.17 lakh and will be sold alongside the MY2025 Speed 400 which costs Rs 2.40 lakh (ex-showroom, Delhi).



Triumph has made some changes to the 400cc single-cylinder engine powering the Speed T4. The company claims improved rideability at low to mid-speeds between 3,500-5,500 rpm. This has been achieved by increasing engine inertia by 30%, as compared to the Speed 400, allowing the bike to cruise effortlessly at 100 km/h.

The Speed T4 gets manual throttle body control, a slipper clutch, 43 mm telescopic forks, dual-channel ABS and is equipped with a USB port. It is available in three colours: Pearl Metallic White, Cocktail Wine Red and Phantom Black.

Triumph has also made some changes to the MY2025 iteration of the Speed 400. The bike now features high-profile tyres, an improved seat and adjustable levers. It retains features like ride-by-wire throttle, switchable traction control, torque assist clutch and dual-channel ABS.

The MY2025 Speed 400 is available in four colours: Racing Yellow, Pearl Metallic White, Racing Red & Phantom Black.

Link to Team-BHP News

[nr07]

Does this have the same monoshock at the rear? Also, on the previous Speed 400, the seat height while being at 790mm is equivalent to 820ish on a sports bike because of wider seat. They have added 10mm to this setup. Going to be a little hard to crack for shorter riders (unless they changed something else).

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

The Speed T4 produces 31 PS / 30.6 bhp (22.8 kW) @ 7,000 rpm and 36 Nm @ 5,000 rpm.

In comparison, the Speed 400 produces 40 PS / 39.5 bhp (29.4 kW) @ 8,000 rpm and 37.5 Nm @ 6,500 rpm.

[a_chelat]

Originally Posted by TusharK

Triumph has made some changes to the 400cc single-cylinder engine powering the Speed T4.

For some reason they have detuned the engine to produce lesser power - 30.6 bhp and max torque of 36 Nm. With all the other feature deletions from the standard Speed 400, wonder why anyone would go for this iteration. Especially if the "introductory" 10k discount for the Speed 400 is still running; I received promotional messages from Triumph dealers to avail the offer even in August.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by a_chelat

For some reason they have detuned the engine to produce lesser power

Triumph claims this motor will offer a more relaxed riding experience - the peak power and torque comes at lower rpms.

The official note -

One of the standout features of the T4 is its enhanced low-end torque. This means smoother acceleration and a more responsive ride, especially in urban environments. Coupled with improved low-speed handling, the T4 effortlessly navigates through challenging situations with ease.

For those who enjoy long rides, the T4's optimized intake system and increased crankshaft inertia ensure a comfortable and relaxed cruising experience. The bike's ability to maintain a cruising speed of 100 km/h at just 5450 rpm makes it ideal for both city commutes and highway adventures.

To complete the package, the T4 boasts a distinctive exhaust note that adds a touch of sportiness and character. With its deep, resonant sound, the T4 delivers a truly satisfying riding experience.

[grshnehete]

Originally Posted by a_chelat

For some reason they have detuned the engine to produce lesser power - 30.6 bhp and max torque of 36 Nm. With all the other feature deletions from the standard Speed 400, wonder why anyone would go for this iteration. Especially if the "introductory" 10k discount for the Speed 400 is still running; I received promotional messages from Triumph dealers to avail the offer even in August.

Yeah, doesn't make much sense to go for Speed T4 with reduced power and reduced equipment. Everybody was waiting for something priced higher than Speed and that would have made more sense. I don't think going further down the price is the way, as we have lot of other bikes competing there.
Yes,the 10K discount was extended till end of the August for Speed & Scrambler.

[FlankerFury]

Well that's no Speed 250 or a Thruxton 400.

Edit:- the website says this T4 is, "successor to the acclaimed Speed 400". Is this a hint that the 40HP Speed 400 is going to see substantial price hikes?

[nr07]

In the new Speed 400, suspension travel is reduced by 10mm (according to specifications on the website) and seat padding is increased by 10mm.

So, how has the seat height gone up from 790mm to 803mm? What am I missing?

Also, in my experience, I felt that the Speed 400 rear feels bouncy when riding solo with a stronger rebound. Is this probably fixed on the new version? Considering the fact that they did fiddle with the suspension.

[chiefpk]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

The Speed T4 produces 31 PS / 30.6 bhp (22.8 kW) @ 7,000 rpm and 36 Nm @ 5,000 rpm.

In comparison, the Speed 400 produces 40 PS / 39.5 bhp (29.4 kW) @ 8,000 rpm and 37.5 Nm @ 6,500 rpm.

When I tuned into the live launch event, the moment the price was revealed for the T4 there was just a handful of claps that were heard. No excitement as such. I don't see the point of launching another bike and the price delta is just a mere 23k between the T4 and the Speed 400.

Had they priced it at around 1.99 lakhs the NS400z would have gotten a run for its money. For 23k more you'll get a better, bigger and powerful Speed 400 already. I don't understand Triumph's logic here. Maybe it's more beginner friendly? but that's a tough sell for triumph.

[nr07]

Originally Posted by chiefpk

When I tuned into the live launch event, the moment the price was revealed for the T4 there was just a handful of claps that were heard. No excitement as such. I don't see the point of launching another bike and the price delta is just a mere 23k between the T4 and the Speed 400.

Had they priced it at around 1.99 lakhs the NS400z would have gotten a run for its money. For 23k more you'll get a better, bigger and powerful Speed 400 already. I don't understand Triumph's logic here. Maybe it's more beginner friendly? but that's a tough sell for triumph.

Maybe the Apple strategy? They make an entry version to make you check it out. And, when you do check it out, you pick the higher priced model.

[TheStoryweaver]

In my opinion, first, it’s not an impressive product. Second, it might be a situation where the product is created to make the Speed 400 look like a better proposition. Since it didn’t involve much R&D, Bajaj and Triumph aren’t losing anything here.

If one buys a T4, Triumph makes a sale. And if one decides to spend a few thousand more to get the Speed 400, Triumph still wins, with even more revenue.

There is still one more product left to be unveiled before Diwali. Hopefully, it is lucrative to consider.

[hikozaru]

Originally Posted by nr07

Maybe the Apple strategy? They make an entry version to make you check it out. And, when you do check it out, you pick the higher priced model.

This is no apple strategy. This is pulsarfication of a good brand which had a sharp focused portfolio

[b16h22]

This looks more like a competitor to the potential Hunter 350 or CB350 buyer with the lower price tag and an engine tuned for the city grind. This for someone who finds the Hunter and CB too underpowered but doesn't want a regular Speed400 because it makes too much power.

I think Triumph missed a chance to make the T4 look a bit more retro and basic compared to the Speed. Stickering is over the top imo. Solid colours without the dual tones and graphics would've done wonders. Ideally the price should've been 2-2.1L.

[saikishor]

I was waiting for this thread to go live so that I could rant. This is a classic Bajaj move. There was no need for this and even in Triumph's portfolio this makes no case for itself. The speed 400 was affordable to begin with and when there is a price difference that is very minimal, I am sure the customer would pick the pricier and more loaded option that is available. What's the difference in EMI anyway, huh.

This is a perfect and proven method of brand dilution. It happened with KTM and will soon happen with Triumph as well. The 400 itself was dilution, now this is a step in the right way for Bajaj.

All I would like to tell Bajaj is, platform engineering itself is getting boring these days. So when you want to do something like this, try to do something meaningful instead of making good for no one variants and dumping them in the market.

[prakash_ajp]

I don't understand the concerns here. They mellowed down the engine and cut few features and priced it accordingly. Why are people upset? We all know that Triumph had a tough time selling these and hence the ever-extended discounts. What's wrong with making it official and offer something for the "lesser" bikes at a lesser price ? Is it because Triumph would lose the exclusivity?