RTR or HUNK !!??

gemithomas · 11th December 2007, 15:02

Was just looking at these two bikes and wanted to know which would be worth buying. I'm looking at the following aspects listed as per priority

1. Comfortable Ride (I dont want to have a paining back after even a short drive. ASpects i look here include the Shocks and the sitting position)

2. F.E (I need something that gives me something above 55 km/l consistently for atleat 2 yrs)

3. V.F.M (looking at what you get for what you pay, things that make you feel good as well as things that are good to use)

4. A.S.S (I just done want the service centre guy trying to convince me that i am imagining of an issue or the usual crap like its modern technology and thus it will have all these issues...common man i need someone who can take care of my bike and sort out issues efficiently)

5. Any other pros and cons of each of the above bikes.

I dont plan to keep this for more than 3-4 years. I saw that hunk gives you a 3 yr/40K km warrrany, Does RTR also have something simmilar?

Thanks in advance to all of you.

T-BHP ROCKS!!!

Elito11 · 11th December 2007, 15:19

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Originally Posted by gemithomas

I dont plan to keep this for more than 3-4 years. I saw that hunk gives you a 3 yr/40K km warrrany, Does RTR also have something simmilar?

Selling a two wheeler is no easy job! Simply on this point alone i would suggest a HH. As a Honda would anyday hold its price well compared to TVS.

Comfort..no clue, but for all else including driving pleasure, its RTR anyday.

Elito

Rtech · 11th December 2007, 15:36

well, all I have to go with are the various reviews in the magazines. And we all know how much to believe those

From the tone of your post, I have a feeling the Hunk (ugh) would be more suitable for you. It's a physically larger bike, hence, should be more comfortable.

But only one way to find out for sure, that is to take a test ride. And remember to post the ride review here.

Technocrat · 11th December 2007, 15:58

Like Rtech I recently read a comparo between RTR & hunk & it seems Hunk fits your requirement more that the RTR.

Ona personal front the Hunk's tanbk does look attractive but I liked the rear of Xtreme better.

Go for Hunk, Thank god its not named Kareina or something

VJ_MAVRICK · 11th December 2007, 16:39

Hero Honda's products are better than most of its competetiors. Heard that RTR gear box gives into noise in the long run after a decent cruise of KM's (Not sure ..heard from friends who own it...so cant aunthenticate)..
In my opinion Hunk is better than RTR based on the company,service,spare parts etc.

drkhalsa · 11th December 2007, 18:20

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1. Comfortable Ride (I dont want to have a paining back after even a short drive. ASpects i look here include the Shocks and the sitting position)

Hunk is winner here as RTR has more Sport but still comfortable sitting position

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2. F.E (I need something that gives me something above 55 km/l consistently for atleat 2 yrs)

Hunk will be winner here but BOTH WILL NOT GIVE THIS FE it will be between 50 - 55 for both but Hunk is winner because RTR is more performance oriented bike , it has Technically More CC to the engine and off course it is really fun to rip RTR !! so less FE

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3. V.F.M (looking at what you get for what you pay, things that make you feel good as well as things that are good to use)

Definately RTR is winner because for just 2.5 - 3 k extra you will get lot of goodies like digital meter, adjustable handle bar ,Petal Disk ,Led.

Resale might be low for other brands as compared to honda but dont forgrt you pay more at time of buying it ( Honda Bikes are always costly for any range )

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4. A.S.S (I just done want the service centre guy trying to convince me that i am imagining of an issue or the usual crap like its modern technology and thus it will have all these issues...common man i need someone who can take care of my bike and sort out issues efficiently)

TVS and HH are equally good at giving after sale services

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5. Any other pros and cons of each of the above bikes.

HUNK

Pros: very smooth engine , brand value , good looks and new product
Cons : not value for money , lag behind in goodies as compared to competetion

RTR

Pros: totally performance machine , Good looking , Best Handling !!

Cons : Small size .

So RTR is best choice for performance oriented needs and HUNK over all Nice product !

I hope it helps and yes I have first hand experience of both Bikes

Jatinder Singh

ravi@64bhp · 11th December 2007, 19:42

gemithomas,
Hunk satisfies all your needs mentioned above. Though RTR offers better goodies than Hunk, I would prefer Hunk over RTR. The engine of Hunk is a gem and is better than RTR anyday.

Mpower · 11th December 2007, 19:57

Seems like the RTR is too extreme for you, why not consider the regular Apache 150 then.

phamilyman · 11th December 2007, 21:11

1. Comfortable Ride (I dont want to have a paining back after even a short drive. ASpects i look here include the Shocks and the sitting position)
- Both are decent here. RTR has a sportier stance which your back should be able to support.After that it keeps back better (since its taut, no slouching unlike car).

2. F.E (I need something that gives me something above 55 km/l consistently for atleat 2 yrs)
- What?! a Fusion/Palio owner saying that?

3. V.F.M (looking at what you get for what you pay, things that make you feel good as well as things that are good to use)
- Both would be boss. 50k ki bike mein bacche ki jaan loge?

4. A.S.S (I just done want the service centre guy trying to convince me that i am imagining of an issue or the usual crap like its modern technology and thus it will have all these issues...common man i need someone who can take care of my bike and sort out issues efficiently)
- HH is normally superb. TVS is decent. You can check out your nearby fellows. That is a very local thing. Crazy driver can help here.

5. Any other pros and cons of each of the above bikes.
- RTR is faster. Much more bhp. Like its farkles. Its very well eaten up cbzx sales imo. hunk hasnt realy caught on in delhi so surely rtr is doin somethin good to maintain itself

I dont plan to keep this for more than 3-4 years. I saw that hunk gives you a 3 yr/40K km warrrany, Does RTR also have something simmilar?
- 24 months.
TVS APACHE Review

turbo_v12 · 11th December 2007, 21:18

RTR...anytime...I know I am a TVS fan, but the Hunk is more of a tuned out Unicorn than an X-Treme.

gemithomas · 12th December 2007, 22:51

thanks a lot for all your comments. Just one doubt does the hunk have the same CBZ X engine? I've tries the X-treme but was not that impresed. THe Power delivery is at higher rpms and the engine knocks at every gear change unless you keep the rpms higher. I also felt that the engine was not that smooth. I mean you could really feel the metal moving inside the engine (dont know how to explain. Hope you understand). I've heard the RTR gives its power at much lower rpms

phamilyman · 13th December 2007, 00:07

If you felt that way about RTR, kindly consider p220/p200/zma

or buy a second hand TB - power from lower down. 40ish mileage and uber comfort

wolg · 13th December 2007, 00:31

May I suggest the Unicorn, It fulfills all your criteria.

RufRoc · 13th December 2007, 10:23

@GemiThomas: How about the price difference between the two, just to get an idea of how much of a premium HH charges.

Ajaybiz · 13th December 2007, 12:04

Sorry for offtopic but after riding a stock RXZ 5 speeder, felt like all these 4 stroke machines are waste of money, as a nicely maintained Kari and P180 also eat dust from that bike donno what a Porting and digital programable CDI will do to that.
My 2 cents if you are willing to spend money and wants real perfomance machine buy a 2nds RXZ and show durt to these so called perfomance big machine.

11th December 2007, 15:02	#1
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	RTR or HUNK !!?? Was just looking at these two bikes and wanted to know which would be worth buying. I'm looking at the following aspects listed as per priority 1. Comfortable Ride (I dont want to have a paining back after even a short drive. ASpects i look here include the Shocks and the sitting position) 2. F.E (I need something that gives me something above 55 km/l consistently for atleat 2 yrs) 3. V.F.M (looking at what you get for what you pay, things that make you feel good as well as things that are good to use) 4. A.S.S (I just done want the service centre guy trying to convince me that i am imagining of an issue or the usual crap like its modern technology and thus it will have all these issues...common man i need someone who can take care of my bike and sort out issues efficiently) 5. Any other pros and cons of each of the above bikes. I dont plan to keep this for more than 3-4 years. I saw that hunk gives you a 3 yr/40K km warrrany, Does RTR also have something simmilar? Thanks in advance to all of you. T-BHP ROCKS!!!
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11th December 2007, 15:36	#3
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	well, all I have to go with are the various reviews in the magazines. And we all know how much to believe those From the tone of your post, I have a feeling the Hunk (ugh) would be more suitable for you. It's a physically larger bike, hence, should be more comfortable. But only one way to find out for sure, that is to take a test ride. And remember to post the ride review here.
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11th December 2007, 15:58	#4
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Like Rtech I recently read a comparo between RTR & hunk & it seems Hunk fits your requirement more that the RTR. Ona personal front the Hunk's tanbk does look attractive but I liked the rear of Xtreme better. Go for Hunk, Thank god its not named Kareina or something
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11th December 2007, 16:39	#5
VJ_MAVRICK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,239 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	Hero Honda's products are better than most of its competetiors. Heard that RTR gear box gives into noise in the long run after a decent cruise of KM's (Not sure ..heard from friends who own it...so cant aunthenticate).. In my opinion Hunk is better than RTR based on the company,service,spare parts etc.
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11th December 2007, 19:42	#7
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 10 Times	gemithomas, Hunk satisfies all your needs mentioned above. Though RTR offers better goodies than Hunk, I would prefer Hunk over RTR. The engine of Hunk is a gem and is better than RTR anyday.
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11th December 2007, 19:57	#8
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Seems like the RTR is too extreme for you, why not consider the regular Apache 150 then.
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11th December 2007, 21:11	#9
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	1. Comfortable Ride (I dont want to have a paining back after even a short drive. ASpects i look here include the Shocks and the sitting position) - Both are decent here. RTR has a sportier stance which your back should be able to support.After that it keeps back better (since its taut, no slouching unlike car). 2. F.E (I need something that gives me something above 55 km/l consistently for atleat 2 yrs) - What?! a Fusion/Palio owner saying that? 3. V.F.M (looking at what you get for what you pay, things that make you feel good as well as things that are good to use) - Both would be boss. 50k ki bike mein bacche ki jaan loge? 4. A.S.S (I just done want the service centre guy trying to convince me that i am imagining of an issue or the usual crap like its modern technology and thus it will have all these issues...common man i need someone who can take care of my bike and sort out issues efficiently) - HH is normally superb. TVS is decent. You can check out your nearby fellows. That is a very local thing. Crazy driver can help here. 5. Any other pros and cons of each of the above bikes. - RTR is faster. Much more bhp. Like its farkles. Its very well eaten up cbzx sales imo. hunk hasnt realy caught on in delhi so surely rtr is doin somethin good to maintain itself I dont plan to keep this for more than 3-4 years. I saw that hunk gives you a 3 yr/40K km warrrany, Does RTR also have something simmilar? - 24 months. TVS APACHE Review Last edited by normally_crazy : 18th December 2007 at 23:59. Reason: Extra Smilies - Read the rules buddy - 2 smilies is the norm
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11th December 2007, 21:18	#10
turbo_v12 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thane Posts: 457 Thanked: Once View My Garage	RTR...anytime...I know I am a TVS fan, but the Hunk is more of a tuned out Unicorn than an X-Treme.
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12th December 2007, 22:51	#11
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	thanks a lot for all your comments. Just one doubt does the hunk have the same CBZ X engine? I've tries the X-treme but was not that impresed. THe Power delivery is at higher rpms and the engine knocks at every gear change unless you keep the rpms higher. I also felt that the engine was not that smooth. I mean you could really feel the metal moving inside the engine (dont know how to explain. Hope you understand). I've heard the RTR gives its power at much lower rpms
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13th December 2007, 00:07	#12
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	If you felt that way about RTR, kindly consider p220/p200/zma or buy a second hand TB - power from lower down. 40ish mileage and uber comfort
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13th December 2007, 00:31	#13
wolg BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chandigarh Posts: 69 Thanked: 20 Times	May I suggest the Unicorn, It fulfills all your criteria.
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13th December 2007, 10:23	#14
RufRoc BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 259 Thanked: 28 Times	@GemiThomas: How about the price difference between the two, just to get an idea of how much of a premium HH charges.
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13th December 2007, 12:04	#15
Ajaybiz BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,440 Thanked: 320 Times View My Garage	Sorry for offtopic but after riding a stock RXZ 5 speeder, felt like all these 4 stroke machines are waste of money, as a nicely maintained Kari and P180 also eat dust from that bike donno what a Porting and digital programable CDI will do to that. My 2 cents if you are willing to spend money and wants real perfomance machine buy a 2nds RXZ and show durt to these so called perfomance big machine.
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