Urgent Thunderbird help needed!!!

ricky_1605 · 16th August 2010, 09:49

Hey guys, I gave my bike for servicing in Vadodara on Saturday morning. As i am new to this city so i asked about the mechanic from a guy who lives in my society. He said " His guy is the best mechanic in Vadodara". I wanted to get the bike serviced in front of my eyes but it had a lot of work:

1. General Servicing
2. Decompress was not working
3. Headlight bulb change (only high beam was working)
4. Tail light changed to HD likes
5. Speedometer was not working
6. Removal of rust from engine and leg guard and polishing

So i had to leave it with him for the day.

He told me i will get the bike on sunday at 2.00 p.m. So i reached his shop at 1.30 p.m. and the bike was ready except for the rust removal and polishing which took another 1.5 - 2 hrs.

Although 3-4 things are still left to be done like:

1. Silencer change to Indori
2. New Battery
3. New Battery cover panel
4. New Toolbox chrome panel

In the morning i saw some engine oil leaking so i cleaned it up and came to office. After reaching office again i saw some engine oil and that is getting me worried

help.

bblost · 16th August 2010, 09:54

There are two bolts under the engine. Check if either one of them is loose.
Also check if the thread is seated correctly.

Also if this is the older thunderbird as in non-tbts, check if the leakage is happening from under the clutch cover.

ricky_1605 · 16th August 2010, 11:07

The oil is leaking neither from the clutch nor from under the engine. Its leaking from the timing cover. It was not leaking before the servicing.

Jaxy · 16th August 2010, 11:23

Get the Packet Seal changed.
That will stop the leakage.
its green in color, placed ahead of the tappet cover as shown in the snap.

ricky_1605 · 16th August 2010, 12:27

The oil is leaking from the spot marked in white in the image.

bblost · 16th August 2010, 12:38

You need to go back to the mechanic for this.
The cover needs to be opened and if I remember correctly there is a rubber tube kind of gasket there.
Its needs to be checked.

schitre05 · 16th August 2010, 12:48

yes, by the picture it seems the gasket is the culprit, may be it was not fitted properly in the first place. Ask the mechanic to open the cover and change the gasket.
hope this solves the issue
cheers!!

ricky_1605 · 16th August 2010, 13:20

Thanks bblost and schitre. I'll go to the garage in the evening, will update soon.

Can you guys help me with the battery and silencer?

bblost · 16th August 2010, 13:29

Silencer. Stick to original.

Battery get an Exide or Amco. You can also buy an exide online.

http://www.exidereachout.com/OA_HTML...DspRte.jsp?a=b
But I have not used this service.

Do not buy Amaron bike battery. It is very very bad.

aargee · 16th August 2010, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by bblost

Do not buy Amaron bike battery. It is very very bad.

Just like to shed what I heard on why Amaron is bad; it may or may not be true.

Amaron batteries are actually very good ones, however, the bad part is that they need precise voltage to be charged, IIRC 14V. Most of our Indian motorcycles do not give a steady 14V as input; may be 13.9, sometimes more than 14V. There's nothing wrong when it goes below 14V, it takes more time to charge which it gets during regular rides. However when there's an excess of 14V as input, it is then, the battery begins to start giving problems.

This is what one of the experienced mech & a battery dealer told me.

ricky_1605 · 16th August 2010, 16:36

Thanks bblost. I am thinking of going for Exide only. Any suggestions about general or maintenance free?

I am going to the mechanic in evening will update soon.

aargee · 16th August 2010, 18:38

From what I've been told, go for the general one & do not settle in for the maintainence free. Even the car batteries that they say that are maintainence free require the water level to be checked occasionally.

ricky_1605 · 17th August 2010, 08:52

I went to the mechanic yesterday evening. It was the tappet that was leaking because i got the decompression wire removed so there was a minor leak.

I just reached office and noticed that again

. It seems i have to go again today.

Thanks aargee, I will go for general one only.

ricky_1605 · 18th August 2010, 08:58

Guys, got the tappet cover replaced and now the leakage has stopped.

But now i don't have decompress because the tappet cover doesn't have the opening for decompression wire.

aargee · 18th August 2010, 09:41

@Ricky, BBlost & other RE gurus - I know what's the tappet & what's to be done to for tappet noise, I'm not aware of this decompress. what's this decompress & wire stuff? Could you throw some light on this pls?

16th August 2010, 09:49	#1
ricky_1605 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 335 Thanked: 49 Times	Urgent Thunderbird help needed!!! Hey guys, I gave my bike for servicing in Vadodara on Saturday morning. As i am new to this city so i asked about the mechanic from a guy who lives in my society. He said " His guy is the best mechanic in Vadodara". I wanted to get the bike serviced in front of my eyes but it had a lot of work: 1. General Servicing 2. Decompress was not working 3. Headlight bulb change (only high beam was working) 4. Tail light changed to HD likes 5. Speedometer was not working 6. Removal of rust from engine and leg guard and polishing So i had to leave it with him for the day. He told me i will get the bike on sunday at 2.00 p.m. So i reached his shop at 1.30 p.m. and the bike was ready except for the rust removal and polishing which took another 1.5 - 2 hrs. Although 3-4 things are still left to be done like: 1. Silencer change to Indori 2. New Battery 3. New Battery cover panel 4. New Toolbox chrome panel In the morning i saw some engine oil leaking so i cleaned it up and came to office. After reaching office again i saw some engine oil and that is getting me worried help.
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16th August 2010, 09:54	#2
bblost Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 11,008 Thanked: 15,366 Times View My Garage	There are two bolts under the engine. Check if either one of them is loose. Also check if the thread is seated correctly. Also if this is the older thunderbird as in non-tbts, check if the leakage is happening from under the clutch cover. Last edited by bblost : 16th August 2010 at 09:57.
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16th August 2010, 11:07	#3
ricky_1605 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 335 Thanked: 49 Times	The oil is leaking neither from the clutch nor from under the engine. Its leaking from the timing cover. It was not leaking before the servicing.
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16th August 2010, 11:23	#4
Jaxy BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: new delhi Posts: 78 Thanked: 29 Times	Get the Packet Seal changed. That will stop the leakage. its green in color, placed ahead of the tappet cover as shown in the snap. Attached Thumbnails
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16th August 2010, 12:27	#5
ricky_1605 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 335 Thanked: 49 Times	The oil is leaking from the spot marked in white in the image. Attached Thumbnails
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16th August 2010, 12:38	#6
bblost Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 11,008 Thanked: 15,366 Times View My Garage	You need to go back to the mechanic for this. The cover needs to be opened and if I remember correctly there is a rubber tube kind of gasket there. Its needs to be checked.
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16th August 2010, 12:48	#7
schitre05 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 457 Thanked: 176 Times View My Garage	yes, by the picture it seems the gasket is the culprit, may be it was not fitted properly in the first place. Ask the mechanic to open the cover and change the gasket. hope this solves the issue cheers!!
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16th August 2010, 13:20	#8
ricky_1605 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 335 Thanked: 49 Times	Thanks bblost and schitre. I'll go to the garage in the evening, will update soon. Can you guys help me with the battery and silencer?
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16th August 2010, 13:29	#9
bblost Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 11,008 Thanked: 15,366 Times View My Garage	Silencer. Stick to original. Battery get an Exide or Amco. You can also buy an exide online. http://www.exidereachout.com/OA_HTML...DspRte.jsp?a=b But I have not used this service. Do not buy Amaron bike battery. It is very very bad.
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16th August 2010, 16:36	#11
ricky_1605 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 335 Thanked: 49 Times	Thanks bblost. I am thinking of going for Exide only. Any suggestions about general or maintenance free? I am going to the mechanic in evening will update soon. Last edited by bblost : 17th August 2010 at 09:08. Reason: back 2 back post. Please use edit post if posting within 20 mins. Thanks.
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16th August 2010, 18:38	#12
aargee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TSTN Posts: 6,236 Thanked: 9,643 Times	From what I've been told, go for the general one & do not settle in for the maintainence free. Even the car batteries that they say that are maintainence free require the water level to be checked occasionally.
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17th August 2010, 08:52	#13
ricky_1605 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 335 Thanked: 49 Times	I went to the mechanic yesterday evening. It was the tappet that was leaking because i got the decompression wire removed so there was a minor leak. I just reached office and noticed that again . It seems i have to go again today. Thanks aargee, I will go for general one only. Last edited by bblost : 17th August 2010 at 09:08. Reason: back 2 back post. Please use edit post if posting within 20 mins. Thanks.
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18th August 2010, 08:58	#14
ricky_1605 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 335 Thanked: 49 Times	Guys, got the tappet cover replaced and now the leakage has stopped. But now i don't have decompress because the tappet cover doesn't have the opening for decompression wire.
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18th August 2010, 09:41	#15
aargee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TSTN Posts: 6,236 Thanked: 9,643 Times	@Ricky, BBlost & other RE gurus - I know what's the tappet & what's to be done to for tappet noise, I'm not aware of this decompress. what's this decompress & wire stuff? Could you throw some light on this pls?
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