Originally Posted by Rehaan
(Post 3242193)
Opposite direction? :Shockked: How does it handle quick changes between deceleration and acceleration (in terms of the inertia of the rotating mass)? |
Originally Posted by slamnos
(Post 3241729)
Hi Spike, The vehicle should not be towed when the vehicle is switched on, and when the vehicle is not on recuperation doesnt work. It is effective only when you are driving in a down slope and when you are decelerating/braking. |
Originally Posted by Rehaan
(Post 3242105)
Nope : Hmmm... but what is the real difference between: a) Coasting down a long mountain road b) Being towed with the car on |
Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR
(Post 3242240)
Hi, i do not understand why is it so, what happens if this is done, could you explain? Spike |
Originally Posted by slamnos
(Post 3242291)
Hi Spike, But when you continuously tow the vehicle, regeneration happens cumulatively and will lead to thermal runaway which might affect the batteries. Hope your doubt is clarified? |
Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR
(Post 3242368)
Hi, thanks for the explanation, no, I am still not clear:). As per my understanding goes, the charging and discharging happens only till a specified SOC, it is not allowed to exceed the limit through closed loop control. Does this solely work on charge depletion mode? What level of SOC is allowed for charging and discharging? Thermal runaway is not the reason , me thinks, more so IF it has a battery monitoring system ! Spike EDIT- I think we are hijacking an ownership thread, if you don't mind, could you start a new thread on electrics and hybrids, would be interesting to learn a few things. |
Originally Posted by slamnos
(Post 3242928)
The charger has the ability to cut off power (after 100% SOC) if it is coming from an electric source, but since regeneration is happening from an external source(through kinetic energy of wheels), the charger has no role to play in cutting off this energy. Hence regeneration happens continuously leading to thermal runaway. |
Originally Posted by slamnos
(Post 3242928)
The charger has the ability to cut off power (after 100% SOC) if it is coming from an electric source, but since regeneration is happening from an external source(through kinetic energy of wheels), the charger has no role to play in cutting off this energy. Hence regeneration happens continuously leading to thermal runaway. |
Originally Posted by slamnos
(Post 3242928)
The charger has the ability to cut off power (after 100% SOC) if it is coming from an electric source, but since regeneration is happening from an external source(through kinetic energy of wheels), the charger has no role to play in cutting off this energy. |
Originally Posted by silversteed
(Post 3242984)
Pardon my ignorance - the charger as I understand, is an electronic circuit board that conditions and monitors the charging current & voltage that is to be fed to a battery pack - and the regenerative braking system simply generates an input voltage to this charging circuit. Now, where does thermal runaway come into the picture? |
Originally Posted by Rehaan
(Post 3243049)
But then how does turning OFF the car help / prevent thermal runaway? (during towing) Where does the generated electricity go? Or is the motor decoupled in some way? cya R |
Originally Posted by slamnos
(Post 3243202)
Charger can monitor the current & voltage fed by an electric energy source |
...regeneration in an electric car happens when kinetic energy in the wheels are converted to electric energy and is then fed to the batteries. |
And the charging unit in the e2o is designed to to restrict only electric current from a power source and not designed to limit the regenerated power (it may be restricted in other similar units as per requirement but not in this car). |
Hope I answered your question. |
Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR
(Post 3243241)
Thermal runaway is an aftermath I feel and not the cause, may be experts here (with exposure to hybrids / electrics) can comment better. |
Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR
(Post 3243104)
How is the power flow for this vehicle? Battery>>DC/AC Converter>>Motor>>Axle (Positive drive) Battery<<DC/AC Converter<<Motor<<Axle (Regeneration) Is it different from regular electrics, am I missing something here? :confused: Spike |
Originally Posted by silversteed
(Post 3243223)
To me, apologies if it's offending, this is absurd!!! If I were to design such a system for my employer (who is an OEM for some of the biggies in both the dirty and clean automobile markets, btw), I'll be kicked out in no time. |
Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR
(Post 3243241)
^^ Thermal runaway is an aftermath I feel and not the cause Spike |
Originally Posted by slamnos
(Post 3243248)
...Hence this higher current developed during regeneration can have adverse effect on batteries. |
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