Team-BHP - Mahindra XUV700 Review

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Originally Posted by chethan.ram (Post 5194374)

Price is not an issue. It’s the performance he is looking at. Also, none of the bigger vehicles in petrol version has made an impact. Best example is Innova Petrol. So he is confused.

mStallion in this car IIRC from the demo video produces ~90% torque from 1250 RPM onwards , it's like a diesel. A test drive should make things clear.

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Originally Posted by Kosfactor (Post 5194420)

mStallion in this car IIRC from the demo video produces ~90% torque from 1250 RPM onwards , it's like a diesel. A test drive should make things clear.

340 Nm at 1250 RPM should be fantastic, despite the bulk. Anywhere one can see the torque (and power) curves for the XUV 700 and/or other vehicles?

Wise words about a TD, mate. No amount of words can replace that.

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Originally Posted by IamNikhil (Post 5194093)

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In short, the whole timeline is up in smoke right now and I have zero idea when I will get any concrete update. The whole attitude at the dealer end is supremely disappointing.

Not to demotivate you but it could be a case as mentioned in an earlier post of a dealer named Koncept, selling out to walkin customers who paid a premium. This whole situation reminds me of 90s when my dad had to pay commission to a middleman to get his Vespa and it was a common practice, no one really bothered to go to the dealer or showroom, straight to the middleman.

Start sending mails to dealer and the customer service and dont feel ashamed while calling up 3 or 30 times to the SA or the customer care, you are paying them and they charge an additional tax for their service. May be even use tweeter to post your concern using hashtag BeFairMahindra

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Originally Posted by pseudo_coder (Post 5194386)

Petrol or diesel? Without that info, can't decide if 10 kmpl is good or bad!

Sorry, petrol it is! The variant list is quite long and I forgot I missed an important component in it😛

Also, I don’t think diesels have started coming out for delivery yet but my bad on the typo

As there are multiple threads recently about dealers or Mahindra being unfair, and the fact that the system in India is not very helpful for consumers, I wanted to share this. INGRAM is an online portal of National Consumer Helpline and it works. They reach out to businesses on behalf of consumers. I have got two big companies to respond positively through this portal. In one of the cases, I got the company sent a replacement of a Bluetooth Earbud for which they were not responding for two months.

Considering there are many questions and doubts regarding the range of accessories and the pricing, attaching the comprehensive price list, inclusive of labour and taxes. This is from NBS Mahindra, Mumbai. More or less, the prices will be same across dealers. Not sure about price variation in different cities.

Thank you Mr. Sameer for sharing this.

Quicker delivery with lesser features and lower price!

Mahindra is now trying to ease the chip shortage issue related to late delivery by a new solution. This might be a good solution as M&M says it's not imposed on all customers and it is up to the the customer to opt for lesser features and get the car delivered quick. This means that customers can forego some unwanted features(not sure if customizable) at a different pricing to that of a standard variant.

https://www.rushlane.com/mahindra-xu...-12415517.html

Now, there are some questions like,
- Will M&M create new variants with specific features as a pack to be deleted?
- Will M&M allow customers to choose features out of a list?
- Will the customers get a low price quote or a credit on some other optional service/AMC pack?

All vehicles currently waiting for delivery with one of the Bangalore dealer is Petrol. Those who have booked petrol, you are definitely getting it soon.

It looks a lot taller in person and especially the front end sits higher off the ground. This vehicle's design will appeal to a much broader audience than any other vehicle of this kind without a doubt, it is very smart.

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Originally Posted by ram87pune (Post 5192833)

Hello bhpians.

Here's some latest dope on the XUV700.

1. First and foremost a big thumbs up to Team Mahindra who have come out with flying colours with the XUV700 performing almost flawlessly in GNCAP test, just as I had predicted a few months back. Now according to my sources, if GNCAP tests the AX7 variant then it will score an even higher score of around 43-44 for adult occupant protection because of the presence of a knee airbag for the driver.......

Thanks for the dope, but I was wondering if you happen to know whether Mahindra managed to sort out the intrusion issue on the turbo petrol and some unknown issue on the MX variant (due to insufficient number of airbags) which would potentially prevent the XUV 700 from getting a 5-star rating, as you had reported in an earlier post?

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Originally Posted by ram87pune (Post 5180183)

6. As I had reported earlier that there is some engine intrusion issue with the petrol XUV during front crash, Mahindra is likely to send the diesel variant for GNCAP testing. Now my sources have told me that even the MX variant is having some issues in achieving a perfect 5 star score because it has only 2 airbags which are not proving enough to get a 5 star score. Even though Mahindra is working on sorting out both the issues, we will have to wait and see which variant they finally manage to send to GNCAP.

Does the issue still exist, or did they manage to fix the issue before the cars hit production?

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Originally Posted by chethan.ram (Post 5194234)

My friend is little confused between Petrol and Diesel. His usage is mostly in the city and occasionally on highways. I always feel that diesel is better for such heavier vehicles. Can experts help me with the difference? Thanks in advance.

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Turbo-petrol produces 197 BHP @ 5,000 rpm and 380 Nm @ 1,750 - 3000 rpm.

The 2.0-litre turbo petrol engine that powers the XUV700 is an all-aluminium unit shared with the Thar, but in a far higher state of tune here.

When it comes to the driving experience, this 2.0 Petrol AT is smooth, sprightly & refined. Mahindra’s mStallion is a likeable motor. Petrol lovers, Delhi-NCR BHPians & those who don't care about fuel-efficiency will appreciate the offering. The petrol engine is smooth & quite city-friendly.

On the open road, the turbo-petrol’s 197 BHP means you will be doing silly speeds without even realising it! At Mahindra’s new test track, the XUV700 Petrol AT reached 150 km/h effortlessly and could easily do more. The turbo-petrol revs nicely to the redline, although it isn’t a high-rpm petrol at all. In kickdown mode, the Petrol AT shifts up at just under 5,000 rpm which is rather diesel-like. We sure wish the engine gave us at least another 1,000 - 1,200 rpm to play with, as it does in the Petrol MT variant which revs higher. The mid-range is strong and there is enough power on tap to pass traffic with ease. In terms of cruisability, the XUV700 will do 100 & 120 km/h in top gear at a relaxed ~1,600 rpm & ~2,000 rpm respectively.

The above text is from the official review.
Hope this will help your friend to decide.

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Originally Posted by IamNikhil (Post 5194587)

This is from NBS Mahindra, Mumbai. More or less, the prices will be same across dealers.

Thanks for sharing this. I have a doubt about the front parking sensor, can you please ask the salesperson about it if/when you get the chance.

I want to know if the front parking sensor accessory gets integrated directly with the system. Check the below image to refer to what I mean. If the front sensor accessory (AW10053) is able to integrate with current system and show the proximity bars at front as well I think it will be worth it.

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Originally Posted by rpm (Post 5194616)

I'd like to know this too since the car tested in gncap is ax3 and there's no mention of it being diesel or petrol so it's highly likely it's a diesel and they skipped mx because then they have to choose the petrol as technically that's the base variant and hence couldn't have achieved 5 stars because of the supposed intrusion. Though I've booked the top variant petrol and somewhat convinced that the intrusion wouldn't cause any injuries to the driver because of the extra knee airbag it'd be nice to have some clarification.

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Originally Posted by saikarthik (Post 5194592)

Quicker delivery with lesser features and lower price!

Now, there are some questions like,
- Will M&M create new variants with specific features as a pack to be deleted?
- Will M&M allow customers to choose features out of a list?
- Will the customers get a low price quote or a credit on some other optional service/AMC pack?

The smarter thing to do rather than offer "step-down" editions of variants, would be to launch a new series with slightly fewer or slightly different features. For example, an AX6 that could have everything in AX7 minus the ADAS. Since the ADAS system alone contains over 100 chips as per Mahindra. This would help to work around some aspects of the shortage. I would love a variant like that, as I think ADAS is fundamentally unsuited to the traffic we have in India. The AI in ADAS needs to get smarter to account for the idiosyncratic Indian truck driver and rickshaw wallah.

The term "step-down" is in itself a put off for a customer who has booked a variant with a certain set of features, paying a hefty premium. Why would anyone spending 25-30 lakhs for an SUV want to "step down"? My sincere advise to M&M would be to steer clear of this kind of terminology. Instead introduce the AX6 (or call it CX7 instead of AX7 if you prefer). Then offer to the customer that you can convert your booking from AX7 to CX7 if you choose to, for faster delivery. Don't call it a step-down, throw in some items like ventilated seats or normal cruise control in CX7 that are not present in AX7. This way your customers do not feel let down because of being recommended to step-down