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Originally Posted by ColAjayDrives
(Post 5364236)
Hi,
Answers to your queries:-
(1) AT AWD comes with EBD. |
Thanks for the answer but
Actually asked about availability of EPB (
Electric
Parking
Brake) in AWD version without Luxury pack and just noticed that reply is for EBD (
Electronic
Brake force
Distribution).
Would seek the answer again please.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sindbad
(Post 5366214)
Thanks for the answer but
Actually asked about availability of EPB (Electric Parking Brake) in AWD version without Luxury pack and just noticed that reply is for EBD (Electronic Brake force Distribution).
Would seek the answer again please. |
I'm sorry...I meant Electronic Parking Brake is available in AWD with Luxury Pack.
I am not sure about the configuration in AWD without L.
Others BHPians who own AWD without Luxury pack may chip in pls.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shrk_18
(Post 5366161)
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Nope. What you mentioned is the regular TC stuff. This is a typical shake. More like a dog getting rid of water (not so violent though). The shake is mild under mild throttle but noticeable if you floor the throttle aggressively at around that speed and associated rpm. This behaviour is not observed in any other gear at that rpm.
Quote:
Originally Posted by roadrunner_nv
(Post 5366304)
Nope. What you mentioned is the regular TC stuff. This is a typical shake. More like a dog getting rid of water (not so violent though). The shake is mild under mild throttle but noticeable if you floor the throttle aggressively at around that speed and associated rpm. This behaviour is not observed in any other gear at that rpm. |
I haven't noticed this or its probably not too prominent. BTW, I am in Zap mode all the time in the city and Zoom Mode on the highway
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sindbad
(Post 5366214)
Thanks for the answer but
Actually asked about availability of EPB (Electric Parking Brake) in AWD version without Luxury pack |
Every variant of XUV700 with AWD comes with an electronic parking brake, that includes the non-luxury variant as well.
XUV700 does not have "auto parking" feature like the MG Gloster. Does XUV700 have all the hardware required for the "auto parking" feature? If it does, then can a future software upgrade provide this feature?
So, after the Scorpio-N launch, Mahindra has quietly added and removed a few important features from the XUV7OO's lineup. The changes are:-
Additions:-
AX7:
- Normal Cruise Control.
AX7L AT (exclusive):
- Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go functions.
AX7L (exclusive):
- LED Sequential Turn Indicators.
Deletions:-
AX7L MT:
- Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go functions.
AX5 and AX7:
- LED Sequential Turn Indicators.
AX3:
- Rear Wiper & Defogger.
- Selective Unlock (of the doors & boot lid).
MX:
- Rear Parking Sensors.
- Height Adjustable Driver Seat.
- Rear Spoiler.
- Follow-Me-Home Headlamps.
Old brochure:
New brochure:
Link to download
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wakeupsid
(Post 5365953)
These are really some interesting specs considering this implementation has ADAS for which computational processing needs to be higher, because life literally depends on it.
Also any one has any background if Mahindra's ADAS has some machine learning aspect for the ADAS to evolve. The only automaker i know is probably Tesla, rest all are non commercial players like Waymo and others.
I am assuming this ADAS is from Bosch. |
I guess Mobileye was providing ADAS for Mahindra. They are one of the pioneers in the field and at par with Tesla in many aspects. Normally they vouch for continuous learning in their AI products but not too sure about ADAS in XUV.
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Originally Posted by RavenAvi
(Post 5366642)
So, after the Scorpio-N launch, Mahindra has quietly added and removed a few important features from the XUV7OO's lineup. The changes are:- Additions:-
AX7L AT (exclusive):
- Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go functions.
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Wasn't this already there in the AX7L variants ? I see this in the owner's manual -
https://storagewyh.blob.core.windows...EPB%20Variants)
But this is big set of changes and wonder why they are silent about it :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by amahale
(Post 5366082)
You might be correct; mine is Midnight Black which apparently is the more popular colour. But wont there be more cars manufactured for the popular colours as opposed to others? If this was true, then the choice of colour should not matter. |
They will want to have even spread of colors as its better for the marketing and PR. Also since its still just 1 year, Mahindra can control spread as well for color. And since black has higher bookings, cancellation is low i assume in comparison to other color. So since batch of cars are produced by color, black batch might have higher number of cars than red when they are doing production run.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanmay007
(Post 5366167)
ADAS is from Intel's Mobileye. All of it's integration and the Adrenox UI is developed in partnership with Bosch.
As for machine learning, I doubt there is any kind of reinforcement learning (post system integration) like Tesla. This is because Tesla and others are aiming for a level 5 system, all of their software and hardware related to it are developed in-house and working towards level 5. Indian automotive brands simply lack the technical skills to build such a complex system. Almost all of them use a 3rd party solution such as Mobileye. |
Thanks for correct about Mobileye.
I think automakers need to invest in self learning in ADAS as well, since people in india have longer usage tenure before they change car, a static system is essentially a hindrance to development. Not sure if OTA updates push improvements to ADAS currently. The pot holes and pedestrian intrusion in city, especially when car following behind dont follow safe distances, emergency braking can lead to lot of fender bender accidents. Considering indian driving conditions, i think this is probably better sample for self learning AI, as it will have to add bias on various situations like sudden slow moving traffic because of pot holes or speed breakers as reading a road would be of greater importance regardless of tarmac or unmarked country roads.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RavenAvi
(Post 5366642)
So, after the Scorpio-N launch, Mahindra has quietly added and removed a few important features from the XUV7OO's lineup. The changes are:- Additions:-
AX7L AT (exclusive):
- Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go functions.
AX7L (exclusive):
- LED Sequential Turn Indicators. |
I think these could be updated as removed from the lower variants. Like the ACC stop & Go was always there in AX7L AT variants (my car from Feb has it.) So this is definitely not a new addition. It’s the other way around - they removed it from the lower variants making it exclusive to top end variant only?
Quote:
Originally Posted by RavenAvi
(Post 5366642)
AX7L (exclusive):
- LED Sequential Turn Indicators.
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Wow. Would appreciate some input from the forum as to just how complicated or costly this technology is for Mahindra to be wanting to delete this feature, and not being able to provide it for a long time despite assurances on a lot of cars.
Although seems I got lucky with an early make AX5 which has these, am also concerned down the line in case of an accident or warranty issues, would the replacement parts be difficult to come by?
Quote:
Originally Posted by RavenAvi
(Post 5366642)
Additions:-
AX7:
- Normal Cruise Control.
AX7L AT (exclusive):
- Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go functions.
AX7L (exclusive):
- LED Sequential Turn Indicators. Deletions:-
AX7L MT:
- Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go functions. |
New brochure mentions AX7 having ADAS, so radar is definitely present, no idea why ACC isn’t mentioned. Need more clarity on this although if you read the fine print on last page it says ACC and smart pilot is available on AX7 AT.
As for the AX7L MT, it never had stop and go feature, that was always limited to AT variants.
Sequential indicators should have been limited to luxury from the beginning. Mahindra knew there was a shortage and should’ve taken this decision earlier. Hope they at least provide it to existing customer waiting for them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RavenAvi
(Post 5366642)
MX:
- Rear Parking Sensors.
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I wonder how can they remove these as they're mandatory since last 3 years as per GOI notification. I couldn't find the notification but
this article says that from July 2019, all cars must have rear parking sensors.
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