Team-BHP - Honda Elevate Review

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Originally Posted by Cadd7027 (Post 5599987)

Even I am on the same boat. Here are my couple of cents based on my research

Seltos GTX+ and Elevate ZX CVT cannot be an apple to apple comparison as there will be good price difference. If you have the budget the Kia definitely spoils you with features and feel good factors straight from the luxury segment. the 1.5 GDi smart stream will ensure you have the performance you need in highways

Next, if you are comparing between Seltox HTX IVT and ZX CVT from Honda. Considering they are priced on similarly. In Honda you get ADAS and a better satey package, taking into consideration its built in City's platform. You will miss out on Panaromic sunroof.

Performance wise I expect the Honda to perform slightly better but nothing significant.

I am confused between Taigun 1.0 and Elevate ZX CVT as they are likely to be priced similar. Also, the power and Torque figures are similar. Looking for some comments on comparing Honda's ivtec + CVT with VW's 1.0 TSI+ AT ?

Also, in terms of resale, will the Elevate have an edge on Taigun ?

I had the 1.0TSI AT with Skoda Slavia, if fuel efficiency is a major criteria, do not even think about it, it barely gave me 7-8kmpl in city and 10-11 on highway. If driving pleasure is the criteria then nothing beats it!

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Originally Posted by Ajitesh_Drive (Post 5599926)

When I asked specifically for quote, he very confidently affirmed that it will between INR 11-16 lacs ex-showroom (16 for ZX CVT).

The quoted price range is kind of same as that of the 5th Gen City. Which also means the top end Elevate ZX will undercut Seltos HTX by about 50K for both MT and CVT/IVT variants. That would be a fair asking price, IMO.

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Originally Posted by AKSwamy (Post 5600141)

Thanks for the insights !!

Fuel efficiency is not my primary criteria. However, I am looking for a adequately powerful motor, so that I can pull overtakes in highways and climb up hills without much of an hassle and planning.

My experience with K15C+AT is not great and it lacks punch to pull effortless overtakes and needs planning.

Since Honda's power and specs is near to Taigun 1.0 AT.. Knowing that Taigun 1.0+AT is good at perfoemance. looking for some advice how Honda 1.5 NA + CVT would perform if I compare with Taigun's 1.0 +AT ?

If Honda can perform 80% near to Taigun I will go with it and if it's performance is similar to K15C+AT. Probably I will go with Taigun

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Originally Posted by Cadd7027 (Post 5600225)

My experience with K15C+AT is not great and it lacks punch to pull effortless overtakes and needs planning

Honestly K15C is best avoided. Even the manual is equally disappointing.

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If Honda can perform 80% near to Taigun I will go with it and if it's performance is similar to K15C+AT. Probably I will go with Taigun

I understand what you're trying to ask and Yes the Honda CVT can easily be 80% near to Taigun, in most cases it will be higher maybe 90-95% of the performance. In similar terms the K15C will be way, way behind. Keep in mind Honda's are usually more reliable and have exceptional longevity.

AUTOCAR India says:
"On paper, the Elevate isn’t as efficient as its turbo-petrol rivals with official test figures of 15.31kpl and 16.92kpl for the manual and CVT auto versions, respectively, but in the real world, it’s likely to be the most economical petrol-powered mid-size SUV."

I understand that Elevate may be more economical than a turbo-petrol of, say, Seltos, in real world. However, how can it be the "MOST ECONOMICAL"? Does it mean that Seltos and Creta, which have a higher kmpl for their NA Petrol, are likely be less efficient than the Elevate in real world?

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Originally Posted by venus1975 (Post 5600579)

I understand that Elevate may be more economical than a turbo-petrol of, say, Seltos, in real world. However, how can it be the "MOST ECONOMICAL"? Does it mean that Seltos and Creta, which have a higher kmpl for their NA Petrol, are likely be less efficient than the Elevate in real world?

I'll take manufacturers and review verdicts as a benchmark. Real world mileage will depend closely on your driving style.

I believe it will be fair to assume that the Elevate will have similar numbers as the other popular NA CVT cars in the segment

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Originally Posted by pannags (Post 5600586)

Yes, I get it. My point is this: Say, I am the person driving both Elevate and Seltos - MT Petrol NA. If the ARAI numbers are higher for Seltos, can I not assume that the Seltos will get me more kmpl than the Elevate?

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Originally Posted by venus1975 (Post 5600579)

Yeah traditionally, HONDA is highly efficient than the competition across the globe, also CVT will amplify it when u finally tame it. Another aspect is efficiency of Honda engines across the speed ranges, traditionally we observe avg drops on higher speeds, but Honda CVTs are too tall in some models making it super efficient at higher highway speeds too 90-120kmph.

My CIVIC 1.6 SOHC iVtec returns incredible efficiency on 100-120 speeds tank to tank with cruise control, AC.

Just keep the revs down 2K rpm, use more CVT with constant engine speed.

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I have been using Honda's Brio for the last around 10 years and in terms of mileage, it has always proved to be very efficient, in any condition and even today. Its ARAI certified mileage is 18.4 kmpl (manual) and real world mileage in a mix of highway/city has been near to that, although I am not always sane driver. So, if Honda says something about mileage for its products, it shall not be far away from real world figures.

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Originally Posted by NH08 (Post 5600755)

Ditto. In a mix of city and highways, I get a mileage of around 15 Kmpl in my 10 year old Brio manual. In a pure highway drive, it goes beyond 18 kmpl very often. And I'm someone who keeps the AC on 100% of the time.

Just got a call from my SA (from Harmony Honda, Chandigarh) that Elevate will be available tomorrow and day after tomorrow at the showroom. The vehicle will only be for display and no TDs are available immediately. TD vehicles will arrive later.

On enquiring about variant wise features detail, SA declined to have full information. Only ZX variant will be displayed tomorrow.

On a side note, earlier another SA at another dealership told that marketing and training material for Elevate will be distributed in second week of August to dealerships. So, variant wise features list will be known by then.

Having put on hold my Creta booking for more than 6 months now to see Honda's offering in this segment, I am eagerly waiting to see Elevate in flesh tomorrow at the dealership here in Chandigarh.