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Like the law specifies the ISI standard, let the law specify DoT,ECE,SNELL and SHARP standards too, with a provision to revise the standards every 3 or 5 years, so that we don't lose out when one of these standards gets updated internationally. Quote:
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There is a difference: These Motorcycle Brands have their registered offices in India. Quote:
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| ![]() Cops have suddenly become very concerned about the quality of the helmets ![]() Let them ensure that people wear helmets in the first place. What if 3/4/5 are on a two wheeler (yes, I have seen!)? Will they book them for not wearing helmets or oveloading ![]() |
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| ![]() Food for thought: I don't think all Policemen wear helmets.. leave alone ISI Marked ones. |
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| ![]() I am going against the tide here. The police are just trying to implement the law of the land. They are the Executive branch of the Government; bound to their duties by the rules brought in by the Legislature and supervised by the Judiciary. Caught in the proverbial nut-cracker, they can only do so much. As is evident in the discussion so far, people are unwilling to wear helmets in the first place. Even when they wear one, they do it out of the fear of getting caught and fined and not out of their concern for personal safety. Metal, non-metal, plastic and a variety of materials make up the contraptions that are passed off as helmets. In thread after thread, we have seen and discussed how majority of the victims of road accidents are two wheeler riders. The police too know this and want to find a way out of the death trap. Mandating ISI helmets is a very good first step in this regard. When they say only ISI helmets, they actually meant only ISI helmets, not the other duplicate/substandard ones. It can easily be surmised that the better than ISI, DOT certified helmets (for instance) weren't under their radar. The average traffic cop on the street couldn't be expected to keep track of all safety standards prevalent the world over. For him the equation is pretty simple: ISI = Good Non ISI = Bad However, as soon as the Addl Commissioner of Police realised that the aforementioned equation can't always be correct, he wrote to the people whose domain it is to make the rules. Fair action, isn't it? In the absence of equivalence of standards or homologation, this is the maximum he can do. The place where this drive initially began (Mysuru), is administered by a cop who is as down to earth and pro-people as any good Samaritan can ever be. Saving people's head was the prime and perhaps the sole target there. Things can't be much different in Bengaluru. We as a nation are generally disrespectful and suspicious of cops; and in a lot of cases, rightfully so. But this is a case of law binding the hands of the law enforcers themselves. The police are as clueless and helpless as all of us are. Hope necessary amendments are brought in to avoid unnecessary confusions and complications. The sooner it happens the better. |
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That said, any rider that does not wear a helmet is being recklessly stupid - no argument on that score. | |
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Law breakers would be caught, traffic offenders booked and people compelled to toe the line. But it would neither happen everywhere nor in a consistent manner. Policing, like every other government enterprise, is a product of the individual officer in charge of delivering the service. A good one interprets the law to the best interests of the public at large and is generally a harmless guy, if not an absolute do-gooder (I am deliberately not talking of the bad cop; not very relevant here). However, in the absence of fixed tenure and because his position is dependent on the whims, fancies and hunger of his masters (they who must not be named), his actions are very often short lived. Even seven decades after independence, we are shackled by the remains of the colonial police system. Police Reforms have largely remained on paper and paper alone. On a different level, the disconnect between the Police & Legislature, the Police and Transport Authorities, the Police and Civic bodies and most importantly the Police and the Judiciary will not allow benevolent policing in our midst. In the instant case, even if the transport department agrees to let the supposedly superior but ISI-less helmets off the hook, unless and until relevant changes are made in the IMV Act, the issue will remain a bone of contention. If Bengaluru police are doing it today, there is no reason why the Chennai or the Gurgaon police will not do it tomorrow. Long term vision and holistic approach are the only things that can bring in some change. Till then, the cop-public relationship will remain a rotten and recurring version of Tom and Jerry. | |
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| ![]() This drive is off: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...le22538963.ece They figured that they wouldn't be able to distinguish between a genuine ISI-marked helmet and one with a fake mark by simply visually inspecting. |
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| ![]() Indeed, very silly. Make a start, and penalise those that don't wear any helmet at all. Getting everyone to wear a certified helmet can be the next step, or that can even be left to the judgement of users - after all it is well known that even a half helmet with ISI certification is nowhere as safe as a full face helmet, so users that are educated use the full face ones these days. But first, let's see everyone wearing a helmet that just looks like a helmet as step one. That itself is major task. |
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With the BIS taking such a stance, BTP's position is not tenable. Hence they had to back off the drive. Now the ball is in the BIS's court. | |
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| ![]() I am going ![]() Just got back to Bangalore from Mangalore. Majority of the 2 wheeler riders do NOT wear a helmet at all. This was on the highway. So ISI or not makes no difference. Next, we need better infrastructure coupled with better road sense. Helmets alone might not have avoided multiple deaths in the city due to the potholes (craters). |
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