Team-BHP > Team-BHP > Road Safety > Ride Safe


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 24th July 2018, 15:52   #1
BHPian
 
ChiragM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 457
Thanked: 3,731 Times
Default Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

According to a media report, helmets on sale from next year onwards will be lighter and airier. The Bureau of Indian Standards (BIS) has amended helmet regulations in India to make them more user-friendly.

Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier-img20180627wa0011.jpg

Considering some of the main reasons why bike riders do not wear helmets, the new rules have reduced the maximum weight of the helmets from 1.5 kg to 1.2 kg. It is also mandatory for all helmets to come with ventilation holes. The road transport ministry will also make it mandatory for all helmets to get BIS certification. This will ensure that the standards will be met and the sale of low-quality helmets will become illegal.

The new rule will come into effect from 15 January 2019 and all helmet manufacturers will have to comply. It is reported that in 2017, more than 15,000 people lost their lives in road accidents as they were not wearing helmets. The new rule is claimed to ensure that the helmets will have the required strength to protect the skull and head in case of an accident.

Source: TOI

Link to Team-BHP News

Last edited by ChiragM : 24th July 2018 at 15:54.
ChiragM is offline   (9) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 24th July 2018, 15:59   #2
Distinguished - BHPian
 
saket77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Ranchi
Posts: 3,624
Thanked: 6,531 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Good that they made the BIS certification mandatory. That's the only thing positive I see in the move. I don't care about the number of holes my helmet has or the weight in grams. Wearing a helmet is safe riding practice and if someone practises it, they will always do it - regardless of holes or weight. And also vice versa- those who are offenders and don't give two hoots about their own lives; this news means nothing to them.

Regards,
Saket
saket77 is offline   (3) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 24th July 2018, 16:44   #3
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Tapukara
Posts: 275
Thanked: 457 Times
Infractions: 0/1 (7)
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Plain stupid.

Max weight 1.2kg?? Any decent SNELL helmet weighs about 1.6-1.7kg at least. (Unless it's made out of carbon). Looks like they're encouraging the use of half-face lids.

This rule makes most ECE helmets and ALL Snell helmets technically illegal in India. Who are they to stop me from wearing a Snell or ECE helmet?

I'd have preferred some stringent crash ratings -- in terms of maximum shock transmitted to the head -- to be part of the new BIS norms. A full face should've been mandated. Instead, we're getting lighter helmets. While I agree that any layer is better than no layer, I think I know where those weight savings are going to come from.

Hopefully, the helmets will also be tested against IS4151 requirements. That's the Indian equivalent of Europe's ECE 22.05. Just like DOT, ISI is also a self-certification that you can claim to have met unless proven otherwise.

Here's Ryan Kluftinger of Fort9 explaining the sorry state of DOT:


Last edited by MaheshY1 : 24th July 2018 at 17:06.
MaheshY1 is offline   (6) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2018, 09:46   #4
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: pune
Posts: 1,921
Thanked: 1,292 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiragM View Post
It is also mandatory for all helmets to come with ventilation holes.
This is welcome, however design execution will be poor due to short timelines.

Quote:
Considering some of the main reasons why bike riders do not wear helmets, the new rules have reduced the maximum weight of the helmets from 1.5 kg to 1.2 kg.
Very few Indian helmets are that heavy & with reduction in max weight, it would only mean incorrect choice of materials and layers in the helmet. Recipe for safety compromises.

Quote:
The road transport ministry will also make it mandatory for all helmets to get BIS certification.
Hope this applies only to Indian manufacturers and not to imported helmets.
sukiwa is offline   (3) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2018, 10:51   #5
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: RJ-02,DL,MH-12
Posts: 1,140
Thanked: 1,502 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

How can the rule of maximum weight be enforced !

Will the traffic policemen carry weighing balance with them at traffic intersections? This seems to be typo or needs proper explanation. To me it seems minimum weight instead of maximum so that better / high quality helmets will stay in compliance and not go against the law.

How come a well built 1.7 kg full face helmet cannot be used? Globally helmets are approved against any of these standards - DOT, ECE 22.05 and SNELL and nowhere there has been upper weight restrictions of 1.2 kg.

If the weight has been reduced from 1.5 to 1.2 kg; it means even a well built helmet of 1.2 kg can apply for BIS / ISI certification and if approved it can be sold. The lower weight will not result in outright rejection.

Last edited by i74js : 25th July 2018 at 10:54.
i74js is offline   (5) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 27th July 2018, 10:05   #6
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 53,696
Thanked: 131,645 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Because of the way Indian businesses think & work, I'm worried.

Generally, lighter weight = more modern / sophisticated materials without compromising structural strength.

Indian businessmen will see lighter weight as an opportunity to use lesser of the same material, and thus save costs .
GTO is offline   (6) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 27th July 2018, 11:41   #7
BHPian
 
theredliner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Bengalooru
Posts: 644
Thanked: 1,170 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

In one sentence, the helmets are going to be Maruti'ed.

I have an HJC and a Bell. Both are SHARP 5 star rated and both weigh over 1.5 kg. There's just no way these cheaper helmets will be safer with weight loss. It will be just like how Maruti used to cut weight of its cars sold in the Indian market with no damn given about safety.

To make matters worse, the stupid govt. has made selling safer helmets illegal and the (kangaroo) courts have ruled that the insurance claims can be rejected if a rider dies wearing a safer helmet.
theredliner is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 27th July 2018, 13:02   #8
Team-BHP Support
 
Jaggu's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 18,692
Thanked: 9,877 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Totally nuts and amateurish way of implementing serious safety aspects. To make helmets more friendly / popular for users you come out with specs that will not have anything to do with safety, which by the way is the primary reason for wearing a helmet!
Jaggu is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 27th July 2018, 14:06   #9
BHPian
 
swissknife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Chennai
Posts: 573
Thanked: 889 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Is there any regulation on the type of fasteners? The double D strap helps to ensure that the helmet is fastened well, everytime. The other fasteners run a risk of breaking/jamming.

But then, if one looks around those wearing helmets, one may find most of them not being strapped.
swissknife is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2018, 11:33   #10
Senior - BHPian
 
mithun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Cochin
Posts: 2,031
Thanked: 105 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

I hope they won't ban sales of foreign brands.

Indian bureaucracy are fans of bans!
mithun is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 4th August 2018, 23:13   #11
Team-BHP Support
 
CrAzY dRiVeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: India
Posts: 11,980
Thanked: 31,546 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Quote:
Originally Posted by mithun View Post
I hope they won't ban sales of foreign brands.

Indian bureaucracy are fans of bans!
Looks like an indirect ban, for the short term atleast -

A recent notification issued by the Road Transport and Highway Ministry states that manufacturing, storage and sale of non Indian standard (non-ISI) Helmets for two-wheelers will lead to arrest without warrant.

Interestingly, Kapur adds in his statement that even the leading international brands who were exporting helmets to India as per European and US standard will now have to adhere to ISI standards. They will not be able to sell otherwise.

Read the full article here -

https://www.motoroids.com/news/stora...-imprisonment/
CrAzY dRiVeR is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2018, 20:45   #12
BHPian
 
aghate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Pune
Posts: 109
Thanked: 177 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR View Post
Looks like an indirect ban, for the short term atleast -

A recent notification issued by the Road Transport and Highway Ministry states that manufacturing, storage and sale of non Indian standard (non-ISI) Helmets for two-wheelers will lead to arrest without warrant.

Interestingly, Kapur adds in his statement that even the leading international brands who were exporting helmets to India as per European and US standard will now have to adhere to ISI standards. They will not be able to sell otherwise.

Read the full article here -

https://www.motoroids.com/news/stora...-imprisonment/
Oh please wake me up from this nightmare. Are we progressing as a Nation or otherwise going towards Stone Age? This would have been such a simple decision but seems to be unnecessarily made complicated. I read the news link and it does state max weight of 1.2 kg.

So in terms of Mr. Kapur, EU and US standards are lower than ISI? So that they need to adhere to ISI standards which if I perceive is lower their quality. My LS2 helmet weighs 1.5 kg and does not feel like a heavy melon propped on my head. Instead it feels good, comfortable and safe than the Vega I had been using for few years.

Like mentioned in previous posts here, this looks like a decision made out of the blue without giving it any thought. At least there should have been some info on how they are going to deal with foreign safety standard helmets.
aghate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th August 2018, 12:48   #13
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Tilonia
Posts: 5
Thanked: 8 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

https://www.autocarindia.com/auto-bl...met-ban-409303

Came across his nicely written article on the ban. It is definitely a welcome decision to stop the sale of roadside helmets but the ban on internationally certified helmets is nonsensical, specially if the ban is geared towards reducing road fatalities involving 2 wheelers in India. My blood has been boiling since April and I for one will not trade my HJC for any ISI certified helmet. I have the right to my safety. We should also send our feedback regarding the ban before it is brought into effect (60 days) to js-tpt@gov.in.

Cheers.

Last edited by Gannu_1 : 8th August 2018 at 13:00. Reason: We do not permit posting petition links on the forum. Thanks!
Karthik.guru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th August 2018, 12:59   #14
Team-BHP Support
 
CrAzY dRiVeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: India
Posts: 11,980
Thanked: 31,546 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR View Post
In a very unexpected and extremely unprecedented move, the Ministry has responded for the above article, with a very positive response!

Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier-img20180808wa0017.jpg

Full article here - https://www.motoroids.com/news/non-i...orted-helmets/
CrAzY dRiVeR is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 8th August 2018, 13:17   #15
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 21
Thanked: 10 Times
Default Re: Helmet BIS standards revised; now lighter, airier

Amazed at such response from the Govt. Certainly doing the things the right way.
mun1shk is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Which Helmet? Tips on buying a good helmet Su-47 Ride Safe 2796 25th June 2019 12:52
Nissan Sunny prices revised, now starts at Rs. 6.99 lakh dZired The Indian Car Scene 28 9th March 2019 08:50
Punto loses some weight, It's now lighter. captrajesh Technical Stuff 37 20th October 2013 21:32
Cigarette lighter sockets: How to deal with differing standards mayuresh Modifications & Accessories 13 15th January 2012 20:45
Revised Suzuki Liana ajmat The International Automotive Scene 4 2nd April 2004 03:17


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 12:26.

Copyright 2000 - 2019, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks