Team-BHP - How to handle (and prevent) a Tyre Burst / Blowout

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Originally Posted by shipnil (Post 2957031)

This could have been avoided if you have been doing tyre rotation religiously every 5000 kms.

I have a small query here, would like to hear from experts like GTO. Is tyre rotation necessary at 5000 km?

I also thought so, till I got my Liva GD, where, in the instruction manual they are suggesting tyre alignment, balancing and rotation every 10,000 km or one year, whichever is earlier. Rotation of five tyres if you are on steel wheels or the four running tyres if you are on alloys.

Am I missing something here?

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Originally Posted by styx71

"Consider replacing tyres that 5 years old..."
Never knew about this untill i came across this thread. So replacement of tyres would also follow the same logic as the fluids - Use it or not, replace after x year(s). Wonder, how many are even aware of this - especially those who run their car less and still have enough tread left after 5 years.

Tyre manufacturers (eg.Michelin on their site) mention that after 5years, you need the tyre to be inspected by a specialist every year and at 10 years you should change the tyres, irrespective of the condition/tread. IMO more than the age or kms run, what is important is the preventive care (correct inflation, rotation, periodic inspection etc) taken and the way tyres are used (hard sudden braking vs predictive engine braking, wheelspins & jackrabbit starts vs sane driving etc).

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Originally Posted by subratasenn

Is tyre rotation necessary at 5000 km?
I also thought so, till I got my Liva GD, where, in the instruction manual they are suggesting tyre alignment, balancing and rotation every 10,000 km or one year, whichever is earlier.

Incase of doubt, always go by your manual. If it says 10K kms or 1 year, do it that way. I do it every 5K kms though.

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Originally Posted by dkaile (Post 2957777)

Some tyre tips from my manual which should generally hold good with most cars. This includes balancing, alignment, rotation, tyre replacement, ratings etc. -

@dkaile
Strange that wheel rotation pattern as shown in your Skoda car and my Toyota Liva are different. Toyota suggests rotation on four wheels in the following manner:

Bring the left rear wheel to right front.
Right rear wheel to left front.
Right front wheel to right rear.
Left front wheel to left rear.

So I assume wheel alignment/balancing/rotation might be different for different cars. Maybe the suspension of each model plays an important role?

Couldn't post pics from my Manual as my scanner is not working. sorry:

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Originally Posted by subratasenn (Post 2957807)

Toyota suggests rotation on four wheels in the following manner

As you will notice, they have 'also' mentioned that

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It may be advantageous to swap the tyres over “crosswise” when uneven wear characteristic arise on the running surfaces of the tyres (but not in the case of unidirectional tyres).

So crosswise (or like it says in your manual) tyre rotation may be beneficial in case of 'uneven wear'.

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Originally Posted by GTO (Post 2955752)

• It is recommended to take a break after every 90 - 120 minutes of driving. This refreshment stop will not only do the driver some good, but also allow the tyres, brakes, clutch etc. to cool down. Give your car & tyres a visual check during these chai breaks.

Is it advisable to pour some water over the tyres during the breaks to cool it down faster or will the sudden cooling cause other problems?
Also what if the tyres are slightly over inflated?

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Originally Posted by centaur (Post 2957970)

Is it advisable to pour some water over the tyres during the breaks to cool it down faster or will the sudden cooling cause other problems?
Also what if the tyres are slightly over inflated?

My guess is that it would have more disadvantages than advantages. Pouring water over tyres would get your hot brakes also wet, which I believe is not good.

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Originally Posted by shipnil (Post 2957031)

This could have been avoided if you have been doing tyre rotation religiously every 5000 kms. This way all the nuts would have to be removed and put back while changing tyre. Most likely in your case the tyre was at its places for a very long time, since you bought your vehicle. May be like 2+ year. That's why you faced the issue.

You're right in a way... but lug nuts could still be jammed even if you do frequent tire rotation if they've been over-tightened the last time. We pick up a lot of dirt and grime in indian driving conditions and lug nuts can get jammed fairly easily.
Still, you're right about the rotation on that car not being done regularly enough, by the way. It was a family car and I'm the only bhpian in my family. Everyone else sees the car as a tool, unfortunately. This is going OT, so I'll stop here.

Cheers.

Excellent Thread! I seriously did not know that under inflation causes blowout. I always thought its over inflation thats the culprit.

By the way, does over inflation cause puncture (if not blowout), as the tyre is vulnerable to poking objects, like an over filled baloon that is poked with a needle.

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Originally Posted by veyron_head (Post 2958247)

By the way, does over inflation cause puncture (if not blowout), as the tyre is vulnerable to poking objects, like an over filled baloon that is poked with a needle.

Only to a very small degree where the added pressure makes the tyre a little more rigid, and reduces the possibilities of tyre flex preventing a sharp object from puncturing the tyre.

cya
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The sidewall of my Jetta cracked some time back as the car hit the sidewalk at a wrong angle. I got down to inspect and I could feel and hear the air leaking out. So I went to the tyre repair shop and the owner said that these kind of things keep happening and it was quite normal and he agreed to repair it.

Now I can't supply pics of the same as the car isn't with me right now so I am not sure if you guys would be in a position to really analyze the situation but do you recommend such fixes? Is it ok to ride on with that tyre ?