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| ![]() Thanks for sharing this info. Good to see HONDA Amaze structure rated 'stable'. A lot has been said about honda quality going down over the years and I agree with that, however good to see atleast they haven't sacrificed the basic safety structure. ![]() Sad to see Ignis rated unstable, but not really surprising. Its been the case with most marutis lately except Brezza. Is the Ignis based on HEARTECT platform as well like Baleno/Swift? It says they are made-in-india , but are they the same ones sold-in-india? IIRC even the perceived well-built i20 as well failed this crash test. Link (Made-in-India Hyundai i20 scores 3 stars in NCAP test (South African market)) Last edited by SoumenD : 29th May 2019 at 14:47. |
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A lot of Euro-spec & Australia-spec cars are manufactured in India and there's no reason for them to make the same spec available in India when they can save money by giving us tin cans. | |
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Ignis sold in South Africa has the same 1197 cc K12M engine as we get with manual as well as AMT gearbox. Tyre specs also look same. No idea why the difference in body weights. Hope someone can enlighten. ![]() Last edited by Sherlocked : 29th May 2019 at 15:05. | |
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| ![]() Honda Amaze scores a 4 Star in Global NCAP crash test with the body shell reported to be stable https://auto.ndtv.com/news/honda-ama...h-test-2044804 While Maruti Ignis gets only a 3 Star with the body shell reported to be unstable as well https://auto.ndtv.com/news/suzuki-ig...h-test-2044852 Wasn't the updated Ignis supposed to have an improvement on safety as well? Looks like nothing of it. Last edited by Gannu_1 : 30th May 2019 at 08:10. Reason: Grammar. |
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| ![]() I must say, am completely confused here. Is 'India-made' the same as the India-specific model? That is are we Indian consumers able to purchase the tested/rated model? Been reading various articles and reports and there is nothing really clear. It seems to me like Maruti and other manufacturers makes models for the international market that are better engineered than what they sell here. Is that correct? |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Even Renault exports its Kwid from its plant near Chennai, India with more safety features to Brazil, but due to safety loopholes , sells an unsafe version of this car, which the public has gladly accepted. https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/road-...airbags-2.html (Brazil-spec Renault Kwid to get ABS, 4 airbags) Maruti has never been a paragon for safe cars as far as the India market is concerned. The Swift has been selling with a four star safety rating in the U.K. and other Western markets, but we all know how safe the Swift/ DZire are here in India. The only ray of hope is the compulsory NCAP safety ratings due to be enforced as the Bharat New Vehicle Safety Assessment Program (BNVSAP)come into force w.e.f. 1.10.2019. Existing car models will get a one year's grace period till 1.10.2020 to changeover with newer safety features. This is expected to usher in a good degree of uniformity in the safety ratings of each car model to be assessed by the buyers and regulators. Last edited by anjan_c2007 : 29th May 2019 at 18:28. |
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When Ignis was Euro NCAP tested too it ( standard ) had similar results. ![]() Last edited by Gannu_1 : 30th May 2019 at 08:10. Reason: Quoted post edited. | |
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Infractions: 0/1 (5) | ![]() Thanks for sharing this. On Ignis, results aren't unexpected as other cars on this platform have fared similarly. I think other than rating one needs to look at areas of concern in the crash test finding including body shell strength. Avanza, I have travelled in this while I was in Dubai and it did appear lighter than other Toyota MUVs. It's interesting to see 4 star rating in spite of body shell being rated as unstable and reinstates my point that we need to look at the crash test areas rather than just rating. Amaze - 4 stars and it held it's ground pretty good in the crash test. When I drove a test drive vehicle here in Bangalore it appeared light weight but there was a good sense of stability in the car under sane speeds. If you search for the video and see it in detail is shows areas where this car has weak points but overall I think this is one of the safer cars in 4 meter bracket. |
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| ![]() Misbranding is common in India. Remember how Hyundai kept plastering it's older generation i20 as being high safety vehicle whereas in reality, the high rated vehicle was only an export version. Made in India is something which is made in India but may or may not be intended for sale in India. Made for India is something which is intended for sale in India. It may or may not be export version. |
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If that's what's called being ready for BNVSAP, then I'm scared about the standards of the test. | |
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| ![]() Why can't we make the international safety benchmarks as standards for India. What exactly is the need of reinventing the wheel with a fresh approach and an absolutely new standard for one of the largest car markets in the world? Where is the catch? Politics / manufacturers lobby / cartel? Why these issues need a discussion in 2019 - have we still not come out of the age of living with sub-standard vehicles even after paying so much of indirect taxes for owning a car? I have a classmate who works for Maruti and had a Kizashi. After parting ways with that car last year he purchased a Vento TSI ! That's shows his confidence in MSIL. Last edited by i74js : 30th May 2019 at 09:49. |
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P.S: While buying the Jazz last month, I did check the Amaze as well and the overall build quality felt inferior in the latter. But if that has a stable rated structure, guess the Jazz can only be better. Last edited by SoumenD : 30th May 2019 at 10:44. | |||
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