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Originally Posted by 2cents (Post 4698704)
Reckless driving. I hope the lady who lost her life did not have any children.

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She did. Her daughter was there along with her and got injured.

I believe the median height needs to be increased. The local people were complaining that the curve is sharp and two, median height is less. The driver escaped with injuries, but one lady lost her life and 6 people are in hospital. The GTI can do insane speeds and you feel really cocooned in its shell, but the driver should have been a bit cautious on bends

Same spot on the same day, at night time, a biker fell. That video is also on WA. Not sharing here for obvious reasons.

I feel it was doing more than 104kmh. First off, it is interesting know how they came to that figure and the video of the car going up the ramp seems sped up.

For the car understeer at the curve, it should have been way more than 104kmh, I feel. Moreover, if the driver knew that flyover well and still wanted to speed since he saw an empty stretch,he should have taken a better line and slowed down for the curve.
Not that I am encouraging speeding on public roads, atleast he could have saved this bad episode.

The sign board that fell below just missing a girl, shows that there was proper signage too.

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Originally Posted by Avinash_R (Post 4698731)
Same spot on the same day, at night time, a biker fell. That video is also on WA.

Was it yesterday? Official statement from Cyberabad Traffic Police mentioned it was on 10 Nov and two youths stopped dangerously for taking selfies.

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Originally Posted by tharian (Post 4698739)
I feel it was doing more than 104kmh. First off, it is interesting know how they came to that figure and the video of the car going up the ramp seems sped up.

From the speed cam captures it appears he covered 295 metres in 10 seconds, that is roughly 106 kmph.

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Originally Posted by airbus (Post 4698389)
another CCTV footage from the flyover.

Yea, it's annoying to see the lack of maturity even when folks have gone over 25-years and driving about with no concern for potential consequences of their action.

Guess one way to enforce speed limits for such people would be to have well marked and forewarned speed-breakers installed.

Unnecessary damage to life and property.

This is terrible.
I remember reading about this yesterday night - apparently this flyover just got inaugurated last month and has already seen 2 fatal accidents. People on Twitter were also blaming the design - the curve is quite sharp and the median needs to be higher.

However the blame is to be squarely on the driver for going at such high speeds. People need to stop driving like maniacs please:

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Originally Posted by DriverR (Post 4698459)

In the image, yellow 'x' marks the spot the Polo came crashing down, driving up from the bottom side. The flyover is one way.

Although it is the fault of the driver, I wonder if that steep curve could have been avoided:

Absolutely tragic. So many innocent lives are lost with no fault of theirs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvKzur1p6ic

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Originally Posted by airbus (Post 4698750)


From the speed cam captures it appears he covered 295 metres in 10 seconds, that is roughly 106 kmph

From the screenshot you posted, it looks like that speed trap was much before the flyover 'up ramp' clip. Provided the Grand i10 in both the screenshot and the video clip are the same cars.
In the video, the Grand I10 comes into the frame after the Polo had landed. I feel he had picked up way more speed than 106 kmh in that distance.The reason I feel so is, it is unlikely a GTI will understeer easily at a 100.

One more problem seems to be the design of the flyover itself. If you look at the curve, there seems to be a negative banking which is dangerous in itself.

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Originally Posted by tharian (Post 4698768)
From the screenshot you posted, it looks like that speed trap was much before the flyover 'up ramp' clip. Provided the Grand i10 in both the screenshot and the video clip are the same cars.
In the video, the Grand I10 comes into the frame after the Polo had landed. I feel he had picked up way more speed than 106 kmh in that distance.The reason I feel so is, it is unlikely a GTI will understeer easily at a 100.

It didn't understeer, it lost grip and steering. The flyover you can see has a bumpy surface.

Just before the turn the Polo hits the undulation and you see it lifts up completely. After that the driver is a passenger cause the tyres are not loaded with the car's weight which means no steering, no braking and no ESP to kick in and brake.

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Originally Posted by CarNerd (Post 4698758)
Although it is the fault of the driver, I wonder if that steep curve could have been avoided:

I disagree. Since there is a park there, u might be saying that the flyover could've been built over it. What if there is some building in place of the park. Then, obviously, that option will not be there.
In Internet, everyone is bashing the design of the flyover. I'm not an expert, but, there is right turn at the junction. How can the curve be avoided there?
I've seen a lot of ORR ramps in Hyd with such similar curves (some even more). I feel the only culprit here is overspeeding, and, since this is second such in incident on that flyover, everyone is happy to blame the design of the flyover, rather than blaming the idiotic drivers.
However, to avoid such incidents, unfortunately, we might need speed breakers for curved flyovers as well.
On Bangalore-Hyderabad highway, just before Kurnool, there is a flyover, where such similar bend (even more curvy) is there. There are 2-3 continous speed breakers just before that curve, where I had to brake hard (at 70+ speed). Initially, I thought, why these idiots have put speed breakers on a flyover. But, I've later realised that it is a very steep curve. I'm pretty sure, if not for those speed breakers, a lot of accidents will happen there also.

It looked like a big cannon ball that came hurtling down, only those onlookers know how much of a terrifying sight it was. Their hearts must have skipped a beat.
What if such an incident had happened while crossing a river?
The car and its occupants would have been washed away becoming untraceable.
Incidents like these highlight the fact that most of the bridges or flyover do not have barriers big enough to prevent vehicles from falling off.
It is high time we stay within our limits and try not to drive at the limit, especially when above ground level.
People should be made to understand the consequences and be trained to drive defensively.

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Originally Posted by sumeethaldankar (Post 4698681)

If one were to see the bridge, it appears the side wall are not very high which may have contributed to the car jumping off the side considering the Polo is low slung and not like a tall SUV. I would prefer to see rubber rumble type strips installed just before the curve to slow down errant drivers if nothing else can be done to prevent such fatalities.

There is about 1 ft high steel railing above the concrete railing. There are rumble strips installed before the curve too. Those strips are intended to warn drivers of the curve but in this case the car is too fast going over the strips to be controlled in time. Close shots show that it glazed the railing before going off the flyover. It is not a head on hit and topple.


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