[bobbyblr]

Hi Folks,

Yesterday Maruti Suzuki has released the Fronx crash test video on their YouTube channel.

Below is the video and some of the screenshots from the video.
Both 2 and 6 airbags variants has been tested by looking from the alloy wheels.

I think they have not released any data from these crash tests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oriqe46bI9g

Crumple Zone:

[Newtown]

Releasing the video on YouTube even if it is without data means that they want to make a statement. This could be very interesting!

[ron178]

Seeing that there are no child restraints in the back it looks like this is an AIS98-configuration crash (56kph) and not the 64kph NCAP ODB. But surely interesting to watch nevertheless as there has been no footage so far. I look forward to the official BNCAP results and hope that the new Baleno and Fronx do well.

[SixPistons]

I am thinking why they just include these two cars in the video. Why not their higher segment vehicles: GV, Jimny.
And why not include Baleno and Ciaz as well. These two cars also see lot of sales. Unless they have just sent these two cars for testing in BNCAP as of now, it should’ve included the cars that give them a ton of revenue.

[AdityaDeane]

Originally Posted by bobbyblr

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=oriqe46bI9g

They have also shown the same crash for the Vitara Brezza, as can be seen in the attached screenshot below.

[skarthiksr]

Originally Posted by AdityaDeane

They have also shown the same crash for the Vitara Brezza, as can be seen in the attached screenshot below.

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Any idea if Baleno featured in the video? The Heartect platform image published on the brochures of Baleno and Fronx are exactly the same, but not sure whether the crash test results of the Fronx can be extrapolated for the Baleno.

[AdityaDeane]

Originally Posted by skarthiksr

Any idea if Baleno featured in the video? The Heartect platform image published on the brochures of Baleno and Fronx are exactly the same, but not sure whether the crash test results of the Fronx can be extrapolated for the Baleno.

The side profiles of the Baleno and Fronx have slight dissimilarities, this video only has crash videos of Fronx and Vitara Brezza from the sides, but as far as I know Fronx and Baleno are based on the same heartech platform, with many similar looking insides, and body silhouette etc., so ideally the result can also be extrapolated for the Baleno, but until we receive an official confirmation from Maruti Suzuki on this video, or from Bharat NCAP, that will just be an assumption!

Like the Global NCAP results for Tiago and Tigor were the same, even though only one of them was crash tested. Really looking forward to Maruti Suzuki's explanation for this, and what their inference/rating is, as we also own a 2016 Baleno in our house, and this will bring a lot of peace to my mind.

[rajarshi94]

Originally Posted by bobbyblr

Hi Folks,
Crumple Zone:

Interesting to see the front A-pillars are intact in the frontal crash. If it is done at 60kmph then definitely a good sign for Maruti.

I have similar confusion, if Fronx is made on top of the Baleno "Heartech" platform then how come the A-pillar stays intact? Different material?

[noob_petrolmonk]

Maybe these models didn't do well in BNCAP and Maruti wants to re-assure the customers using this gimmick. A crash test with no real-world numbers reinforces my assumption that they are not worthy of sharing/bad.

[fiat_tarun]

Every vehicle is India is mandated to undergo crash testing as per AIS 98 / 99 since October 2019. AIS 98/99 is based on UN ECE R94 and is done at 56kmph and only has pass or fail as a criteria.

This video is likely from one of those tests since MSIL have not provided any data to assess this crash apart from coming to visual conclusions.

This is why NCAPs test at 64kmph which is over and above the mandated regulation as well as score the test as per a laid out protocol.

I hope we get BNCAP results for the Suzuki's fast and they score atleast a 4 star. We all know Suzuki's have a crumple zone, the concern was with it crumpling too easily, which puts the 'safe zone' at a risk in higher speed collisions !

[SuperGirl_Dad]

Originally Posted by rajarshi94

I have similar confusion, if Fronx is made on top of the Baleno "Heartech" platform then how come the A-pillar stays intact? Different material?

Originally Posted by AdityaDeane

The side profiles of the Baleno and Fronx have slight dissimilarities, this video only has crash videos of Fronx and Vitara Brezza from the sides, but as far as I know Fronx and Baleno are based on the same heartech platform, with many similar looking insides, and body silhouette etc., so ideally the result can also be extrapolated for the Baleno, but until we receive an official confirmation from Maruti Suzuki on this video, or from Bharat NCAP, that will just be an assumption!

Like the Global NCAP results for Tiago and Tigor were the same, even though only one of them was crash tested.

Originally Posted by skarthiksr

The Heartect platform image published on the brochures of Baleno and Fronx are exactly the same, but not sure whether the crash test results of the Fronx can be extrapolated for the Baleno.

NO, the results of Fronx cannot be extrapolated to Baleno. The difference in height/Ground clearance can make a big difference in the front offset and side impact crash test.

Identical cars with difference in ride height can have different results under crash test. Anybody remember Fifth Gear (with famed Tiff Needell).

Watch from 26.05 min mark in the below video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIovz10bMpk

[silverado]

Originally Posted by bobbyblr

[/ATTACH]

Fronx is a jacked up Baleno with few more body claddings no 2 ways about it. I dont think it will have a better safety rating than Baleno.

It could be Maruti very smartly promoting these 2 slow selling cars on the name of safety.( Which is also questionable since we dont have the results disclosed ).

That Baleno is a Euro Ncap 3 star rated car, but there is another thread which we all have beaten till pulp about whether the cars sold abroad differ from Indian Baleno.

[r2212xx]

They have released a slew of videos recently, including tests related to EPS and the general durability of the suspension and chassis. These are not going to win any stars or awards, but still a decent effort. Shows that MSIL has finally mustered the courage to deal with the impression the general public has about the safety aspects of their cars. Works as an excellent marketing effort and wins brownie points for some transparency.

[anjan_c2007]

They are taking safety "seriously" after 40 years of deep slumber. The video shows a Fronx but if you hear the commentary in chaste English, it makes sweeping statements generalising the safety features not for the Fronx but for all Maruti's saying for instance:-

"The cars' safety features are closely evaluated through multiple crash tests. The cars are put through numerous destructive and indestructive stringent tests. Maruti cars combine a safe zone for protecting the passenger compartment . A car undergoes more than 50 crash tests before it is introduced to the market. Damage is evaluated very meticulously."

They are taking safety seriously but only for some models in the Nexa range. Safer Marutis are yet to percolate to the A and B, plus base C segments where these sell in the millions.

After seeing the video, a layman will reach an Arena showroom and vouch with his family members that he is buying a safe car, that is tested in their Indian safety specific crash test site for impacts with those crash test dummies as shown. I can conclusively say that the video is misleading as it is subjective not objective and specific.

[AdityaDeane]

Originally Posted by SuperGirl_Dad

NO, the results of Fronx cannot be extrapolated to Baleno. The difference in height/Ground clearance can make a big difference in the front offset and side impact crash test.

Identical cars with difference in ride height can have different results under crash test.

So, in that case, do you think that Tata will give separate test mules for a Tiago and a Tiago NRG, because they both differ in ride height and the NRG has added cladding etc.?

Didn't Tata motors get same Crash Ratings for Harrier and Safari, and Tiago and Tigor, because the platform was same?

I believe that if the platform is same, the results can surely be extrapolated! Look at all the cars from MSIL on Heartech Platform which were crash tested, weren't the results similar?