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Old 30th August 2024, 15:11   #31
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Re: Maruti's poor implementation of the rear seatbelt alarm, without weight sensors!

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Sorry but why don’t you get them to buckle up at the rear?
Apologies, just seeing this as my notifications are off.

I was able to convince them to wear seatbelts at the rear of my Brezza earlier. But in the Grand Vitara, there is the additional step of unbuckling the seatbelts first (because they are usually kept buckled in to stop the stupid alarms) and buckling them in. And then repeating it all in reverse after they get down. It's become such a chore that everybody who sits in the rear refuses to wear seatbelts, totally defeating the purpose of the alarms.
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But in the Grand Vitara, there is the additional step of unbuckling the seatbelts first (because they are usually kept buckled in to stop the stupid alarms) and buckling them in.
It may be an anecdote, but my gut feeling is that regulators and consumer testers who allow this kind of a system never bothered to understand the effects of this. Common sense would suggest that having this kind of a system might be actually reducing whatever little seatbelt use India already has. The only thing it might do right is remind people that rear seatbelts exist!
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Re: Maruti's poor implementation of the rear seatbelt alarm, without weight sensors!

I am shocked that MSIL still has not fixed this. I recently sat in 2 MSIL cars -- One was a brand new Uber Taxi and the other was a brand new Wagon R. Both still had the issues. Such a lazy approach from MSIL.
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Re: Maruti's poor implementation of the rear seatbelt alarm, without weight sensors!

I know that the seat belt "canceller" devices are illegal but are there any seat belt extension buckles available ? Basically male - strap - female. Even without the strap in between would be better.

This way you kill two birds with one stone. Alarm is disabled and rear passengers can buckle up without inconvenience.
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I know that the seat belt "canceller" devices are illegal but are there any seat belt extension buckles available ? Basically male - strap - female. Even without the strap in between would be better.
Not a bad idea, but I doubt most of them are as rigorously tested as an OEM seatbelt. Last year ADAC tested a few seatbelt extenders sold in Germany for pregnant women and found that they all increased abdominal and pelvic deceleration, or even broke. I don't know how that would translate to the average occupant though.

Source: Schwangerschaftsgurte im Test: Keiner hält, was er verspricht — ADAC



Forum member dileep found that in the Jimny, for example, simply disconnecting the buckle sensor stops the signal. That sounds like a much less risky solution if at all possible with the other cars. Source (Maruti Jimny Review)
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Not a bad idea, but I doubt most of them are as rigorously tested as an OEM seatbelt. Last year ADAC tested a few seatbelt extenders sold in Germany for pregnant women and found that they all increased abdominal and pelvic deceleration, or even broke. I don't know how that would translate to the average occupant though.
It's possible. The angle would change slightly but then again the normal sockets are on a swivel and I don't think many of us even know the ideal angle or positioning of the seatbelt other than adjusting it for comfort.
Plus I guess we can't say for sure how well the new socket might hold the clip but then again I remember a thread about OEM seatbelt failures so it's all a bit of a gamble in the end.

I found the product I was looking for :

https://uniauto.in/products/uniauto-...YaAiFNEALw_wcB

No affiliation to the site and no idea if it's reliable.
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