Team-BHP - Bad Drivers - How do you spot 'em

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Originally Posted by stallmaster (Post 5001975)

Textbook example of rash driving. No usage of LRVM, wrong side driving, overtaking on curves, etc.

I watched this video twice with an intent to nitpick because you say he is example of rash driving. To be honest with you, except for the fact that he was faster than the rest of the cars, I seriously didn't find his driving rash in any sense. His LRVM would have got folded due to winds (Its a Maruti :D) and he should have adjusted it I agree.

But apart from this, he wasn't impatient, wasn't really rushing to get past others and took his own time and waited on few occasions too, was in good control most of the times when taking on the curves including down-shifting, was using both hands (although at wrong position).

Typically, when someone is driving fast, he necessarily need not be rash and this video is an example for that.

Regarding overtaking on curves, well, sitting from the driver's seat I have a feeling that he had good visibility during each of those overtaking attempts along with the fact that he had good momentum to pass all the times.

In the end, he seems to be more than content with the puny little hatch on those curves!!

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Originally Posted by paragsachania (Post 5002114)

In the end, he seems to be more than content with the puny little hatch on those curves!!

Yeah, makes sense. I may be wrong here. I drive EXTREMELY defensively in hilly areas, as I feel margin of error is next to nonexistent there. Hence I felt his driving style was a tad bit overconfident. :coldsweat

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Originally Posted by stallmaster (Post 5001975)

Textbook example of rash driving. No usage of LRVM, wrong side driving, overtaking on curves, etc.

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Originally Posted by deathwalkr (Post 5002192)

Dude spent most of the time driving on the wrong side of the road.
And real life Initial D? :D
It's always a recipe for disaster when people try and recreate scenes from movies/cartoons on real roads in real traffic.

Yes I find it not to be an example of rash driving but an example of bad driving for sure. He is unnecessarily keeping to the right lane even when there is no vehicle to pass. This has to be avoided especially on such a section of road. Following racing line is okay if the road is empty and is having a good visibility of few hundred meters to your front :D but always driving through the right lane is a stupid thing to do.

He may have felt like he was racing, Intial D and stuff, but all I could do was just cringe. The car is way too underpowered for my taste. Being underpowered adds to the unsafe nature of this car too. Underpowered cars are more accident prone when driven spiritedly, especially during risky overtaking maneuvers.

Another one for the thread - how many bad drivers in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWZD...ature=youtu.be

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Originally Posted by paragsachania (Post 5002114)

To be honest with you, except for the fact that he was faster than the rest of the cars, I seriously didn't find his driving rash in any sense.

I do understand that he just want to drive fast at the same time be considerate to others on the road (a rare thing on Indian roads), but he still has some unsafe practices in his driving.

Driving in opposite traffic lane when his own lane is clear

Overtaking in group - following the vehicle overtaking in front of him, his visibility is definitely compromised in that situation

Overtaking on curves and that too more than one vehicle together - again his visibility is not zero, but while overtaking on a leftward curve his visibility cannot be 100% too.

His attitude towards driving - "Let's show them what an Alto can do"

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Regarding overtaking on curves, well, sitting from the driver's seat I have a feeling that he had good visibility during each of those overtaking attempts along with the fact that he had good momentum to pass all the times.

On the other hand, I have a feeling that he checked from the left side that no vehicle was coming from the other side and started overtaking, but while in middle of the maneuver, he had little awareness of what was going on in front of the vehicle he was overtaking.

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In the end, he seems to be more than content with the puny little hatch on those curves!!

If he was really content, he wouldn't have had the understeer and continued on pushing the car. While these little Marutis have go kart like handling, they are not exactly meant to be driven on the limit. He is in desperate need for a sporty car and a race track.

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Originally Posted by YD14 (Post 5002313)

I do understand that he just want to drive fast at the same time be considerate to others on the road (a rare thing on Indian roads), but he still has some unsafe practices in his driving.

My observations were to differentiate between him being a bad driver than a rash one. So I am not disagreeing to your view here.

Also, for a fact, this is the Old NH4 (Old Pune-Mumbai highway) and there are few sections here which are one way (not referring to the sections with medians) and you will often spot wrong side drivers/riders too.

In summary, for all the videos of bad drivers that we get to spot here on this thread, this one somehow doesn't take the cake :).

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Originally Posted by stallmaster (Post 5002237)

Probably a minuscule number of driving schools in India teach you to check mirrors+blindspots mandatorily before starting off....

Certainly all the mirror stuff is a big part of learning to drive and passing the test in GB, but isn't it an element of common sense to look first before driving off or entering a road?

I'd say yes. Comes under self-preservation. It's like crossing a road on foot without looking. Sadly, though, daily experience tells me I'm wrong: it is increasingly uncommon sense.

:disappointed

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Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom (Post 5002368)

I'd say yes. Comes under self-preservation. It's like crossing a road on foot without looking. Sadly, though, daily experience tells me I'm wrong: it is increasingly uncommon sense.
:disappointed

It certainly comes under common sense and more importantly, survival instinct! :D

May be this guy in the video made a lazy effort to look, but he probably missed to see the car behind the auto-rickshaw. If it was me, I would have waited until I had a clear view of the road on either sides.

The notorious Hubli Dharwad single carriageway bypass is a classic example. Most buses and local trucks (not the long haul ones) easily manage to complete their overtaking maneuver by assuming that smaller vehicles will make way for them.

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Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana (Post 5003677)

Guess he expects others to dive from the bridge to let him go

On our roads, one way to tell that is by turning on your Headlights which the bus driver didn't. I feel sorry for him that he wasn't trained properly by whoever made him learn how to drive a bus. On our roads, turning on headlights overrides every other basic law.

But the same tutors would have certainly told him how to pounce like a beast and expect others to make way for you.