Baleno Vs Accent CRDi (2003) models

naveendhyani · 27th March 2006, 10:32

hi guys!

i was well set on buying a baleno in a months time when yesterday i visited my mechanic. he told me that no doubt baleno is a wonderful car but all said and done it will not return a mileage of more than 8 kmpl. it really put me on the backfoot.

so yesterday the first thing i did was 2 take a test drive of an Accent CRDi. seemed okay with acceleration but not as comfortable as baleno. since its my wife who needs 2 use the car and that too she will b on the back seat (cause of driver) i wanted something comfortable.

she have a daily travel of approx 22 kms with our regular trips down the highway. i wud say that my total distance in a month should b in the range of 1000-1200 kms.

i have checked the prices of both cars 2003 model. the baleno is something like 3.5 lacs whereas the CRDi will b 4.0 lacs.

pls suggest which will b better for us considering FE, maintanence, servicability and VFM.

tsreekaranrao · 27th March 2006, 10:48

Baleno gives atleast 10 with ac under hard driving with a few performance mods.

Both cars are very good in their own ways.
Accent CRdi changed the way people looked at diesels.
But the first thing that you have to decide is whether you really need a diesel???

Will you drive the car on the highway ???

Steeroid · 27th March 2006, 10:54

An Accent is not recommended for backseat travel, especially when it involves some amount of time/distance spent in the car. Check out the backseat of the Baleno (I havent used the backseat on that car) and decide.

If its for your wife and she's going to be chauffered around, why not take a look at the Indigo which offers the best backseat. If you go for the SX versions she can also watch movies on the DVD player. Great comfort too.

naveendhyani · 27th March 2006, 11:04

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

If its for your wife and she's going to be chauffered around, why not take a look at the Indigo which offers the best backseat. If you go for the SX versions she can also watch movies on the DVD player. Great comfort too.

my wife has a motion sickness isue so she cant watch DVD's while travelling or read newspaper. also we somehow did not like the indigo.

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But the first thing that you have to decide is whether you really need a diesel???

Will you drive the car on the highway ???

i dont really know if we need a diesel or not but we do travel highways. i wud say 50:50 city and highway driving.

BTW is the maintanence of CRDi way too expensive than baleno and how about the mechanics on the highways?

Steeroid · 27th March 2006, 11:09

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Originally Posted by naveendhyani

my wife has a motion sickness isue so she cant watch DVD's while travelling or read newspaper. also we somehow did not like the indigo.

Same issue with me

If you dont like the Indigo, you should perhaps look at the two new cars in the market - the base versions of the Fiesta and the Aveo.

If you like taking risks, perhaps you should check out the Fiat Petra at the Tata Motors dealerships, too.

typeOnegative · 27th March 2006, 11:18

If you are going for a second hand, then it will boil down to which of the cars has been maintained better. Both are good in their own way. If I had to choose, I would have chosen the Accent because I would have driven the car rather than being chauffeured around. The cost saving on diesel coupled with the performance (for a diesel) would have worked in the Accents favor.

However, there are issues with the backseat of Accents if you are 6 feet or above and prefer back seat travel. Steer's suggestion is good. In case you are looking at the Fiesta, do check out the TDCi. In case of the Fiat Petra, you will not get the Petra at a Tata Motors dealership I am afraid. And I do not think the Petra Diesel will be to your liking as you might find it kind of sluggish. The petrol is a better bet.

naveendhyani · 27th March 2006, 11:28

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Originally Posted by typeOnegative

If I had to choose, I would have chosen the Accent because I would have driven the car rather than being chauffeured around. The cost saving on diesel coupled with the performance (for a diesel) would have worked in the Accents favor.

However, there are issues with the backseat of Accents if you are 6 feet or above and prefer back seat travel.

i make sure that the driver is not present on the days i m off. my wife's not 6'+ so i guess backspace legroom wud b enough. though she requires comfy drive.

i simply follow the principle that the driver's seat is the most comfortable hence i m always there. i dont like 2 b chauffered around.

tsreekaranrao · 27th March 2006, 11:37

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Originally Posted by naveendhyani

i dont really know if we need a diesel or not but we do travel highways. i wud say 50:50 city and highway driving.

BTW is the maintanence of CRDi way too expensive than baleno and how about the mechanics on the highways?

Mechanics on highways are not adviceable for any car.

Pice of petrol rs. 50 (approx.)
Price of diesel rs. 40 (approx.)

Mileage of baleno 12 (highway and city)
Mileage of accent 15 (highway and city)

For 1200 kms pm

Cost pm for baleno Rs.5000
Cost pm for accent Rs.3200

ghostrider4385 · 27th March 2006, 11:45

Why don't you take your wife along and make her sit in all the cars. She will be using the car, so she would be the best judge on which car's rear seat she finds most comfortable right?!

Godspeed.

Alok.

typeOnegative · 27th March 2006, 11:51

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Originally Posted by naveendhyani

i make sure that the driver is not present on the days i m off. my wife's not 6'+ so i guess backspace legroom wud b enough. though she requires comfy drive. .... i simply follow the principle that the driver's seat is the most comfortable hence i m always there. i dont like 2 b chauffered around.

I would suggest going for the Accent. However, it will be your wife who will decide I guess, so do take her for the test drive. The Baleno is a wonderful car to drive no doubt, but I think you will be happier with the Accent. However, as I hinted before, please check up the cars thoroughly.

naveendhyani · 27th March 2006, 12:07

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Originally Posted by ghostrider4385

Why don't you take your wife along and make her sit in all the cars. She will be using the car, so she would be the best judge on which car's rear seat she finds most comfortable right?!

Godspeed.

Alok.

well she's quite happy with both. no considerable difference between both. its me who has 2 make the choice with ur help. i m sure with this thread i will have more inputs and little less confused than ny common buyer.

Steeroid · 27th March 2006, 12:13

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Originally Posted by naveendhyani

no considerable difference between both.

In that case, go for the CRDi - the difference can be seen in your monthly bills.

Contact kb100 for wicked ideas with Pete's box.

naveendhyani · 27th March 2006, 12:15

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

In that case, go for the CRDi - the difference can be seen in your monthly bills.

Contact kb100 for wicked ideas with Pete's box.

just a wierd idea, i had earlier posted a thread regarding ECU remap. if i go for CRDi remap how much wud it cost and what will b the power gain. also how much difference will the free flow exhaust make?

kb100 · 27th March 2006, 12:44

Hey
I have had an Accent CRDi for the last three years...

Let me take this one at a time

1. MAintanance - I have spent NOTHING on it CRDI except for the oil and filter changes. I prefer to do it every 5k kms instead of the company recommended 10 k but this is a matter of individual preference.

2. Back seat - By far very comfortable so long you dont upsize your tyres - My wife and both childern occupy the rear seat and they have not complained one bit yet! (we go everywhere in the car!)

3. Fuel ... ENORMOUS savings over petrol... and Deisel is 35/ltr... not 40. and I get 18 on the Highway ... 21 if I drive sanely - (Me & Sane

!!

4. PetesBox... better than a remap - Plug and Play - you have an option of upping the power to 18 +7 +7 BHP (there are two additional settings to the stock 18 BHP one).. More importantly your torque jumps up by almost another 45 odd Nm - that on top of the 19 odd kgs it already makes, gives you some very serious lugging power! (Like Drifer said - Get used to some 3rd gear wheel spins!!)You'll love toasting them efforlessly!! I got 18 on the highway despite keeping the pot on boil fulltime!

5. Drifter has Freeflows on his CRDI - so he will be able to give you first hand info - Remember that you CANNOT change the header - since you have the turbo. And your wife may not like the sound - esp on long drives.

I am yet to see a "bad" CRDi unless it has been abused by its owner!... please ensure you DEMAND to see complete service records.. Post July 2005 Hyundai dealerships have all been linked to a central data-base. So the entire history of every nut changed on any Hyundai vehicle can be had!

I absolutely LOVE Em!!

naveendhyani · 27th March 2006, 13:19

hey guys i just read a thread

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...highlight=CRDi

what do u say about my situation right now. for 1000-1200 kms per month what do u think is better, baleno or CRDi. pls take into consideration that i will not go for new but used cars and the price difference should b 50000

27th March 2006, 10:32	#1
naveendhyani BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 542 Thanked: 9 Times	Baleno Vs Accent CRDi (2003) models hi guys! i was well set on buying a baleno in a months time when yesterday i visited my mechanic. he told me that no doubt baleno is a wonderful car but all said and done it will not return a mileage of more than 8 kmpl. it really put me on the backfoot. so yesterday the first thing i did was 2 take a test drive of an Accent CRDi. seemed okay with acceleration but not as comfortable as baleno. since its my wife who needs 2 use the car and that too she will b on the back seat (cause of driver) i wanted something comfortable. she have a daily travel of approx 22 kms with our regular trips down the highway. i wud say that my total distance in a month should b in the range of 1000-1200 kms. i have checked the prices of both cars 2003 model. the baleno is something like 3.5 lacs whereas the CRDi will b 4.0 lacs. pls suggest which will b better for us considering FE, maintanence, servicability and VFM.
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27th March 2006, 10:48	#2
tsreekaranrao BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: hyderabad Posts: 115 Thanked: 2 Times	Baleno gives atleast 10 with ac under hard driving with a few performance mods. Both cars are very good in their own ways. Accent CRdi changed the way people looked at diesels. But the first thing that you have to decide is whether you really need a diesel??? Will you drive the car on the highway ??? Last edited by tsreekaranrao : 27th March 2006 at 10:50.
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27th March 2006, 10:54	#3
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	An Accent is not recommended for backseat travel, especially when it involves some amount of time/distance spent in the car. Check out the backseat of the Baleno (I havent used the backseat on that car) and decide. If its for your wife and she's going to be chauffered around, why not take a look at the Indigo which offers the best backseat. If you go for the SX versions she can also watch movies on the DVD player. Great comfort too.
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27th March 2006, 11:18	#6
typeOnegative Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vikhroli, Mumbai, India Posts: 1,503 Thanked: 27 Times	If you are going for a second hand, then it will boil down to which of the cars has been maintained better. Both are good in their own way. If I had to choose, I would have chosen the Accent because I would have driven the car rather than being chauffeured around. The cost saving on diesel coupled with the performance (for a diesel) would have worked in the Accents favor. However, there are issues with the backseat of Accents if you are 6 feet or above and prefer back seat travel. Steer's suggestion is good. In case you are looking at the Fiesta, do check out the TDCi. In case of the Fiat Petra, you will not get the Petra at a Tata Motors dealership I am afraid. And I do not think the Petra Diesel will be to your liking as you might find it kind of sluggish. The petrol is a better bet.
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27th March 2006, 11:45	#9
ghostrider4385 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 389 Thanked: 12 Times	Why don't you take your wife along and make her sit in all the cars. She will be using the car, so she would be the best judge on which car's rear seat she finds most comfortable right?! Godspeed. Alok.
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27th March 2006, 12:44	#14
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	Hey I have had an Accent CRDi for the last three years... Let me take this one at a time 1. MAintanance - I have spent NOTHING on it CRDI except for the oil and filter changes. I prefer to do it every 5k kms instead of the company recommended 10 k but this is a matter of individual preference. 2. Back seat - By far very comfortable so long you dont upsize your tyres - My wife and both childern occupy the rear seat and they have not complained one bit yet! (we go everywhere in the car!) 3. Fuel ... ENORMOUS savings over petrol... and Deisel is 35/ltr... not 40. and I get 18 on the Highway ... 21 if I drive sanely - (Me & Sane !! 4. PetesBox... better than a remap - Plug and Play - you have an option of upping the power to 18 +7 +7 BHP (there are two additional settings to the stock 18 BHP one).. More importantly your torque jumps up by almost another 45 odd Nm - that on top of the 19 odd kgs it already makes, gives you some very serious lugging power! (Like Drifer said - Get used to some 3rd gear wheel spins!!)You'll love toasting them efforlessly!! I got 18 on the highway despite keeping the pot on boil fulltime! 5. Drifter has Freeflows on his CRDI - so he will be able to give you first hand info - Remember that you CANNOT change the header - since you have the turbo. And your wife may not like the sound - esp on long drives. I am yet to see a "bad" CRDi unless it has been abused by its owner!... please ensure you DEMAND to see complete service records.. Post July 2005 Hyundai dealerships have all been linked to a central data-base. So the entire history of every nut changed on any Hyundai vehicle can be had! I absolutely LOVE Em!!
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27th March 2006, 13:19	#15
naveendhyani BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 542 Thanked: 9 Times	hey guys i just read a thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...highlight=CRDi what do u say about my situation right now. for 1000-1200 kms per month what do u think is better, baleno or CRDi. pls take into consideration that i will not go for new but used cars and the price difference should b 50000
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