Used Diesel Sedan in 3.5-4L

determinus · 31st December 2006, 20:28

I am a petrol head, but my wife is taking up a job that requires 60km per day travels, mostly in the city traffic. Chauffer driven, but at times might be used for any weekend travels. Comfort, reliability and easy to maintain are the key, and the budget is 3.5-4L, closer to the former. I intend to keep the car for 2-3 years, but resale value is not a big issue.

I am looking at Lancer as the prime candidate. It doesnt have too many e-sensors, is old school technology, has clean lines and great comfort. Hopefully easy to maintain though parts may be on the costly side.

My other choice is FIAT Petra D. How is it when compared to Lancer on the 3 counts? Are there any other candidates in your opinion?

Thanks
DT

cooldude1988765 · 2nd January 2007, 01:48

I think you should also take a look at the used accent crdi

esteem_lover · 2nd January 2007, 09:22

The other options would be the Ikon 1.8D, Accent CRDI, Indigo. But i think you have already narrowed down 2 of the better cars. Both are great cars. You might find a petra at a low cost.

GTO · 2nd January 2007, 10:01

The Lancer D fits your bill the best. However, it will be a little difficult to find one that has a lower mileage. If you do find one, perfect. Other choices would be the Indica / Indigo brigade.

Lastly, you might want to wait for the Renault Logans reviews.

mclarenracer · 2nd January 2007, 12:11

for me lancer is a good option and accent. but what condition a car would be in for a price tag of 4lacs.

MalluDude · 2nd January 2007, 12:17

Accent CRDI is a good choice: but it's best driven, and not chauffered around in the back seat. Also finding a low-mileage one is a challenge.

tsk1979 · 2nd January 2007, 12:44

Indigo is a safe option. Cheap spares.
The rear seat is very comfortable. I have sat in lancer back seat and found it to be less comfortable than an indigo by a large margin, but the reason could be my height.
As for the indigo, you will find a really great condition low mileage indigo LX for 4L(1 year old).
Petra D would be hard to find in the used car market.

If you can stretch your budget another option could be around 30K done elantra crdi. You will need to put in 5L. In delhi we saw many elantras which were 2 years old with 30-40K done for around 5L price.
Since elantra comes with a 4 year 80K kms warranty, they even had 2 year warranty left in them.
But finding one is a problem.

mega5918 · 2nd January 2007, 12:47

Determinus,
Please look at Accent CRDI, That fits your budget since the engine is Common Rail and relatively new shouldn't give you any problems for next 2-3 years.
Regards,
Mega

Equus · 2nd January 2007, 13:53

Why dont you stretch a bit and go for a new Indigo itself? You will get warranty plus if you are financing it, interest rates would be better too.

determinus · 4th January 2007, 13:23

Thanks all for the responses. I didnt list the Accent only because it doesnt fall under the "simple" category. My neighbor sold his 2.5y old Accent CRDi in June 06 for 3.6L (I wasnt looking then)

The CRDi plant is very sensitive to fuel quality and the car itself has too many sensors - a little less dependancy on technology is more comforting

Elantra at 5L is very tempting, but the same issue works there too and for once I want to stick to the budget.

In that sense, Lancer looks a good option. But I can only find petrol ones in the market. There are tons of 3 year old *LXi for 3.5-3.75L in the market, but no "d". How is the Mumbai market?

tsk1979 · 4th January 2007, 14:38

Dont worry about sensor's and stuff. As long as you fill from good pumps like Pure for sure you wont face any problems.
If you are okay with back seat comfort of Accent crdi its a great buy and the engine will last quite long if well maintained.
As for "non complicated" engines, even in such cases many cars have electronic fuel pumps with ECU.
Even mechanical fuel pump driven cars are sensitive to bad fuel with FP overhaul coming up at around 70-80K kms.

31st December 2006, 20:28	#1
determinus BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 277 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Used Diesel Sedan in 3.5-4L I am a petrol head, but my wife is taking up a job that requires 60km per day travels, mostly in the city traffic. Chauffer driven, but at times might be used for any weekend travels. Comfort, reliability and easy to maintain are the key, and the budget is 3.5-4L, closer to the former. I intend to keep the car for 2-3 years, but resale value is not a big issue. I am looking at Lancer as the prime candidate. It doesnt have too many e-sensors, is old school technology, has clean lines and great comfort. Hopefully easy to maintain though parts may be on the costly side. My other choice is FIAT Petra D. How is it when compared to Lancer on the 3 counts? Are there any other candidates in your opinion? Thanks DT
	() Thanks

2nd January 2007, 01:48	#2
cooldude1988765 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,042 Thanked: 194 Times	I think you should also take a look at the used accent crdi
	() Thanks

2nd January 2007, 09:22	#3
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	The other options would be the Ikon 1.8D, Accent CRDI, Indigo. But i think you have already narrowed down 2 of the better cars. Both are great cars. You might find a petra at a low cost.
	() Thanks

2nd January 2007, 10:01	#4
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,545 Thanked: 300,759 Times View My Garage	The Lancer D fits your bill the best. However, it will be a little difficult to find one that has a lower mileage. If you do find one, perfect. Other choices would be the Indica / Indigo brigade. Lastly, you might want to wait for the Renault Logans reviews.
	() Thanks

2nd January 2007, 12:11	#5
mclarenracer BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 115 Thanked: 11 Times	for me lancer is a good option and accent. but what condition a car would be in for a price tag of 4lacs.
	() Thanks

2nd January 2007, 12:17	#6
MalluDude BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kochi Posts: 397 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	Accent CRDI is a good choice: but it's best driven, and not chauffered around in the back seat. Also finding a low-mileage one is a challenge.
	() Thanks

2nd January 2007, 12:44	#7
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Indigo is a safe option. Cheap spares. The rear seat is very comfortable. I have sat in lancer back seat and found it to be less comfortable than an indigo by a large margin, but the reason could be my height. As for the indigo, you will find a really great condition low mileage indigo LX for 4L(1 year old). Petra D would be hard to find in the used car market. If you can stretch your budget another option could be around 30K done elantra crdi. You will need to put in 5L. In delhi we saw many elantras which were 2 years old with 30-40K done for around 5L price. Since elantra comes with a 4 year 80K kms warranty, they even had 2 year warranty left in them. But finding one is a problem.
	() Thanks

2nd January 2007, 12:47	#8
mega5918 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 95 Thanked: 5 Times	Determinus, Please look at Accent CRDI, That fits your budget since the engine is Common Rail and relatively new shouldn't give you any problems for next 2-3 years. Regards, Mega
	() Thanks

2nd January 2007, 13:53	#9
Equus Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 423 Times	Why dont you stretch a bit and go for a new Indigo itself? You will get warranty plus if you are financing it, interest rates would be better too.
	() Thanks

4th January 2007, 13:23	#10
determinus BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 277 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Thanks all for the responses. I didnt list the Accent only because it doesnt fall under the "simple" category. My neighbor sold his 2.5y old Accent CRDi in June 06 for 3.6L (I wasnt looking then) The CRDi plant is very sensitive to fuel quality and the car itself has too many sensors - a little less dependancy on technology is more comforting Elantra at 5L is very tempting, but the same issue works there too and for once I want to stick to the budget. In that sense, Lancer looks a good option. But I can only find petrol ones in the market. There are tons of 3 year old *LXi for 3.5-3.75L in the market, but no "d". How is the Mumbai market?
	() Thanks

4th January 2007, 14:38	#11
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Dont worry about sensor's and stuff. As long as you fill from good pumps like Pure for sure you wont face any problems. If you are okay with back seat comfort of Accent crdi its a great buy and the engine will last quite long if well maintained. As for "non complicated" engines, even in such cases many cars have electronic fuel pumps with ECU. Even mechanical fuel pump driven cars are sensitive to bad fuel with FP overhaul coming up at around 70-80K kms.
	() Thanks