Accent Lpg or Dezire vdi ?

22nd July 2008, 20:43

hello guys,
I know this question may be little early, but had to make a choice. I am thinking to buy a mid size sedan 5 to 7 lac budget. had considered Dezire vdi till now and would book it in few days. but, i just read in papers that hyundai would launch Accent lpg in october [ don't know how far it's true]. I know accent is a good vehicle, fuel consumption was the only problem. but now with company fitted lpg, i am confused.
Everyone agrees that it's a good car, but is it a better car than Dezire vdi ?. I travel about 1000 kms per month [high way and city]. I am looking for comfort, handling, fuel economy, low mentainance, reliability, better built quality (free from rattling and stuff), saftey is must and performance.
Guys, I hope am not asking too much. hope to hear from you soon. I don't want to regret on my decision later.i never drove accent till date, so please throw some light on it.
Thank you

Eddy · 22nd July 2008, 22:17

At 1000 per month, you need neither diesel nor LPG. Look out for petrol cars. How about the Dzire ZXI ?

karanraheja · 22nd July 2008, 22:23

Uday , Thats quite a tough decision. Since its a LPG vs Diesel. Where the Accent mainly loses is its quite a dated model ! Its still an excellent VFM though & yes the LPG accent is round the corner! Ikon is gonna through a facelift in few months & if rumours are right it might get the 1.4 TDCI doing duty in the Fiesta. Ikon has one of the best rear benches too ! Dzire VDI seems to be a good bet & actually fits your requirement, but i would suggest you wait till Sept for new launches.Anyways wait period for Dzire VDI would be atleast 3-5 months so rather wait for new models & then jump to conclusion.

greenhorn · 22nd July 2008, 22:34

isnt it already launched ? Agree with eddy though. @ 1000km/month , there aren't any significant savings
EDIT: oh, wait , that was the CNG Accent

nishant_kingpin · 22nd July 2008, 22:35

The Accent is now a good old car. Does a great job in terms of meeting expectations however may not sell well, when you consider a change. The Dzire on the other hand will not only bring you quality but snob value as well. It is knows for good comfort and featuers to keep the ride engaged.

As Eddy stated, going for a petrol may prove to be more cost effective than the Deisel in case you are picking up the Dzire. 12000 KM per year multipled by the cost differential of the fuels within your city is that you can recover in an year(Apart from the maintenance difference). So calculate and check how many years for you to recover the extra cost you pay. Dont forget to factor depriciation & resale value.

esteem_lover · 23rd July 2008, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

At 1000 per month, you need neither diesel nor LPG. Look out for petrol cars. How about the Dzire ZXI ?

That would be his choice.

I think a diesel should be the right choice & Logan is a pretty decent performer with a decent FE too.

phamilyman · 23rd July 2008, 11:40

Fully agree with Eddy.

At a projected running of 1500km+ a month, I am considering a petrol hatchback. At your running, petrol anyday.

And NOT a diesel logan. Frightfully expensive for the level of finish/rear seat comfort it offers (not ride quality which is impeccable) - consider the time you would take to recover the costs over say a petrol ikon flair.

5L ikon 6.5L diesel logan. at like 12000km a year, and cost difference of rs2/km, you will recover your additional costs in some 75000km or six years. Think again saab.

DieselFan · 23rd July 2008, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by phamilyman

5L ikon 6.5L diesel logan. at like 12000km a year, and cost difference of rs2/km, you will recover your additional costs in some 75000km or six years. Think again saab.

Folks,

you are forgetting the higher price you would get if you go and sell a 3 year Diesel car viz-a-viz a 3 year petrol car. I think breakeven would happen at 16000 km for a Swift VDI. Here is the calculation I have worked out -

difference in swift petrol v/s diesel car - 80000 Rs.
Mileage of Petrol car - 11km/l
mileage of diesel car - 18km/l
cost of petrol - 59 (in B'lore)
cost of diesel - 39 (in B'lore)
cost per km of petrol car - 59/11 - 5.36 Rs.
cost per km of Diesel car - 39/18 - 2.16 Rs.
difference - 3.2 Rs/km
Return on diesel car over and above petrol car after 3 years - 30000 Rs.
hence 50000 rs. for breakeven is achieved at 50000/3.2 < 16000 km or within a year if you drive 1500 km a month even if you drive 1000 km a month it does make sense to go in for a diesel car.

prasanth · 23rd July 2008, 20:09

Wont petrol-diesel price difference be further stretched with a fuel price hike in comming years? So I feel diesel is the way to go.

phamilyman · 24th July 2008, 01:27

Diesel saab,

Nice calculations. Can't disagree with the numbers. Given my padosi's VDi, I had calculated the same slightly differently.

Resale additional price of 20k
petrol mileage of 12, diesel of 16.

gave slightly better breakeven but logic is still strong!

My only comparison was for say accent petrol versus the overpriced logan diesel. for some car petrol-diesel comparison, your calculation is almost perfect.

GTO · 24th July 2008, 11:05

Within your budget of 5 - 7 lakhs, why don't you consider the Logan? Its got fantastic FE, has more room and far better ride quality than the Dzire. I do think that it is overpriced, but seems to suit your requirements to the T.

iceman7 · 24th July 2008, 11:32

Agree with GTO. The logan is a good choice. Additionally the price of LPG changes every month. It can go up or come down every month. However its been going up for the past few months.

I'd recommend a diesel. DZIRE or Logan.

aaggoswami · 24th July 2008, 12:59

I would suggest Swift Dzire VDi. This car has got good engine plus the maruti network is another peace of mind factor.

Accent is a dated model. Swift dzire has good chassis and passive safety.

phamilyman · 24th July 2008, 13:13

Logan seats are VERY thin. That takes away from an otherwise superb riding vehicle. Almost close to optra in rear seat comfort.

and does 140 without much sweat.

sp33d · 15th December 2008, 15:01

I am buying an Accent Executive shortly. Lower FE is a worry. Looks like majority of the folks get around 9kmpl.

Owing to this and non-availability of CNG in Bangalore, I am contemplating fitting an LPG kit.

Could someone guide on LPG experience with Accent? Good places to get it done in Bangalore? Expected FE after LPG?

22nd July 2008, 20:43	#1
udaykars Posts: n/a	Accent Lpg or Dezire vdi ? hello guys, I know this question may be little early, but had to make a choice. I am thinking to buy a mid size sedan 5 to 7 lac budget. had considered Dezire vdi till now and would book it in few days. but, i just read in papers that hyundai would launch Accent lpg in october [ don't know how far it's true]. I know accent is a good vehicle, fuel consumption was the only problem. but now with company fitted lpg, i am confused. Everyone agrees that it's a good car, but is it a better car than Dezire vdi ?. I travel about 1000 kms per month [high way and city]. I am looking for comfort, handling, fuel economy, low mentainance, reliability, better built quality (free from rattling and stuff), saftey is must and performance. Guys, I hope am not asking too much. hope to hear from you soon. I don't want to regret on my decision later.i never drove accent till date, so please throw some light on it. Thank you
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22nd July 2008, 22:17	#2
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 9,387 Thanked: 13,301 Times	At 1000 per month, you need neither diesel nor LPG. Look out for petrol cars. How about the Dzire ZXI ?
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22nd July 2008, 22:23	#3
karanraheja Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 436 Times	Uday , Thats quite a tough decision. Since its a LPG vs Diesel. Where the Accent mainly loses is its quite a dated model ! Its still an excellent VFM though & yes the LPG accent is round the corner! Ikon is gonna through a facelift in few months & if rumours are right it might get the 1.4 TDCI doing duty in the Fiesta. Ikon has one of the best rear benches too ! Dzire VDI seems to be a good bet & actually fits your requirement, but i would suggest you wait till Sept for new launches.Anyways wait period for Dzire VDI would be atleast 3-5 months so rather wait for new models & then jump to conclusion.
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22nd July 2008, 22:34	#4
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,401 Times View My Garage	isnt it already launched ? Agree with eddy though. @ 1000km/month , there aren't any significant savings EDIT: oh, wait , that was the CNG Accent Last edited by greenhorn : 22nd July 2008 at 22:38.
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22nd July 2008, 22:35	#5
nishant_kingpin BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 335 Thanked: 4 Times	The Accent is now a good old car. Does a great job in terms of meeting expectations however may not sell well, when you consider a change. The Dzire on the other hand will not only bring you quality but snob value as well. It is knows for good comfort and featuers to keep the ride engaged. As Eddy stated, going for a petrol may prove to be more cost effective than the Deisel in case you are picking up the Dzire. 12000 KM per year multipled by the cost differential of the fuels within your city is that you can recover in an year(Apart from the maintenance difference). So calculate and check how many years for you to recover the extra cost you pay. Dont forget to factor depriciation & resale value.
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23rd July 2008, 11:40	#7
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Fully agree with Eddy. At a projected running of 1500km+ a month, I am considering a petrol hatchback. At your running, petrol anyday. And NOT a diesel logan. Frightfully expensive for the level of finish/rear seat comfort it offers (not ride quality which is impeccable) - consider the time you would take to recover the costs over say a petrol ikon flair. 5L ikon 6.5L diesel logan. at like 12000km a year, and cost difference of rs2/km, you will recover your additional costs in some 75000km or six years. Think again saab.
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23rd July 2008, 20:09	#9
prasanth BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ernakulam Posts: 70 Thanked: Once	Wont petrol-diesel price difference be further stretched with a fuel price hike in comming years? So I feel diesel is the way to go.
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24th July 2008, 01:27	#10
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Diesel saab, Nice calculations. Can't disagree with the numbers. Given my padosi's VDi, I had calculated the same slightly differently. Resale additional price of 20k petrol mileage of 12, diesel of 16. gave slightly better breakeven but logic is still strong! My only comparison was for say accent petrol versus the overpriced logan diesel. for some car petrol-diesel comparison, your calculation is almost perfect.
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24th July 2008, 11:05	#11
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,545 Thanked: 300,755 Times View My Garage	Within your budget of 5 - 7 lakhs, why don't you consider the Logan? Its got fantastic FE, has more room and far better ride quality than the Dzire. I do think that it is overpriced, but seems to suit your requirements to the T.
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24th July 2008, 11:32	#12
iceman7 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BOM \| TLL Posts: 751 Thanked: 469 Times	Agree with GTO. The logan is a good choice. Additionally the price of LPG changes every month. It can go up or come down every month. However its been going up for the past few months. I'd recommend a diesel. DZIRE or Logan.
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24th July 2008, 12:59	#13
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,931 Times	I would suggest Swift Dzire VDi. This car has got good engine plus the maruti network is another peace of mind factor. Accent is a dated model. Swift dzire has good chassis and passive safety.
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24th July 2008, 13:13	#14
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Logan seats are VERY thin. That takes away from an otherwise superb riding vehicle. Almost close to optra in rear seat comfort. and does 140 without much sweat.
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15th December 2008, 15:01	#15
sp33d Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 9 Thanked: 0 Times	Accent with LPG I am buying an Accent Executive shortly. Lower FE is a worry. Looks like majority of the folks get around 9kmpl. Owing to this and non-availability of CNG in Bangalore, I am contemplating fitting an LPG kit. Could someone guide on LPG experience with Accent? Good places to get it done in Bangalore? Expected FE after LPG?
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