Jetta 2.0CRDI comfort line or Laura Elegance 2.0CRDI with DSG

Rasputin · 3rd July 2010, 21:00

In terms of Engine Laura DSG wins hands down, compared to Jetta. Laura DSG comes with a DOHC 16 Valve CR engine , that pumps out 140PS & 320 Nm . On contrast Jetta comes with the same engine as Non-DSG Lauras, which makes 110PS & 250NM.

Moreover Laura has recently underwent a facelift and should be around at least for another 2 years; whereas a totally new look Jetta is coming early 2011.

.anshuman · 3rd July 2010, 21:24

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Originally Posted by msd63

Test drove the Laura DSG in ambiente trim. The auto mode was good and wasn't excited by the manual mode. The change from 1st to 2nd in the manual mode wasn't as quick as I had expected. On one occasion I experienced a sudden surge of power when I wasn't expecting that to happen, wonder whether it was the turbo kicking in when I was actually thinking of slowing down. The car was brand new in black and the ambiente trim is pretty basic. The fabric upholstery did not feel rich and there is only a manual AC with smaller alloys compared to elegance. Still thinking and also contemplating to wait to see the launch of Vento or Altis in Diesel.

The DSG gearbox is slow to respond at initial startup due to the lack of torque converter but otherwise gearbox is very intuitive and offers excellent performance. The advantage of not having torque converter shows up in MT like FE figures but the turbo lag will be more prominent here.

You may also like the AT version of Chevrolet Cruze which also comes with a very well sorted six speed Automatic gearbox. I would still recommend a Laura DSG over all other cars in the segment.

sabynag · 3rd July 2010, 23:20

Jetta is getting replaced in US market this October. India may get the new model sometime next year. Given the very low sales volume of the current model, some years down the line spare parts availability may become a problem, especially for accident damages.

People are scared of Skoda servicing cost. But I noticed in one of T-BHP threads that Jetta servicing cost is higher than even Superb.

How is VW A.S.S. in Bangalore ?

msd63 · 4th July 2010, 07:29

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Originally Posted by ampere

I guess the heart would say DSG, but mind says Jetta CRDI.

Is that a fair comparison summary?

Thinking about it, it is the other way. My heart is for the Jetta but my mind says DSG.

msd63 · 4th July 2010, 07:39

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

In terms of Engine Laura DSG wins hands down, compared to Jetta. Laura DSG comes with a DOHC 16 Valve CR engine , that pumps out 140PS & 320 Nm . On contrast Jetta comes with the same engine as Non-DSG Lauras, which makes 110PS & 250NM.

Moreover Laura has recently underwent a facelift and should be around at least for another 2 years; whereas a totally new look Jetta is coming early 2011.

I agree with your first point relating to the engines. Regarding the outer appearance, the back end of Laura hasn't changed since about 2004, same as Octavia and the front end has minor facelifts. When the new Jetta hits the Indian market it is very likely that it will be higher priced as it is apparently much bigger and based on the newer version of the Golf(? mark V)

GTO · 4th July 2010, 23:43

MSD, its a no-brainer situation you find yourself in. The Laura DSG is undoubtedly the superior here. For one, its is significantly more powerful. Two, DSG gearboxes offer the most supreme shift quality. This purchase will be a substantial upgrade from your Getz and I have a feeling you'll enjoy an automatic over a manual.

Skoda's after-sales remains shabby overall, but as a dealer, Vinayak seems alright (IIRC, even Mod Ajmat's vRS goes to the same dealer).

Don't expect stellar reliability though. The DSG gearboxes have inconsistent durability, and the air-con is a known Laura / Jetta weakness.

ajmat · 5th July 2010, 10:11

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Originally Posted by GTO

Don't expect stellar reliability though. The DSG gearboxes have inconsistent durability, and the air-con is a known Laura / Jetta weakness.

And when that goes, try an independent specialist and get a Sanden a/c which is durable

ampere · 5th July 2010, 10:36

If I may provide a suggestion:

Would you consider waiting for the Altis diesel, if you are OK with the lower performance option?

duke · 5th July 2010, 10:37

It appears the Skoda guys have been hearing the complaints and have almost done away with all the older dealers. In Delhi Silvertone and Continental have been wiped out, and made way for 4 new dealers. The service is remarkably better now.

msd63 · 5th July 2010, 14:24

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Originally Posted by ampere

If I may provide a suggestion:

Would you consider waiting for the Altis diesel, if you are OK with the lower performance option?

The Altis looks like a well put together car though I haven't test driven one. It could be an option if the price is significantly less than the Jetta and the Laura DSG considering that it apparently will come with the 90bhp engine. Any knowledge when it is likely to be launched and be seen on the roads?

ampere · 5th July 2010, 17:44

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Originally Posted by msd63

The Altis looks like a well put together car though I haven't test driven one. It could be an option if the price is significantly less than the Jetta and the Laura DSG considering that it apparently will come with the 90bhp engine. Any knowledge when it is likely to be launched and be seen on the roads?

The news I read around points to July/Sep (Not sure of confirmation)

But I am sure it will be definitely cheaper than Laura DSG and Jetta Comfortline at least by a lakh or two.

(This is only my theory. Hence please do not hold me to ransom if this comment turns otherwise!

)

In fact even I am waiting for it.

veedub89 · 5th July 2010, 17:52

The DSG is an amazing thing to have. So the logical thing would be to go for the Laura but if you can wait for sometime then you can opt for the DSG Jetta. VW however hasn't released a official date for the launch of the DSG jetta so it could be a long wait.

msd63 · 7th July 2010, 15:30

After the launch of the vento prototype yesterday, I have decided to wait to actually see the Vento and TD it and decide. The choice in my mind has come down to between Jetta trendline or Vento diesel highline. They are different segments, one is built in India and the other is CKD among other differences. I have to be convinced that Jetta is worth the extra 6L over the Vento diesel. I think I may also be swayed by the Altis diesel when it is launched. So things on hold till about August/September.

ampere · 9th July 2010, 22:17

I guess you will have a shoot-out between Vento highline and Altis diesel highest end.

My theory says, in the ascending order of pricing:

Vento Highline < Altis Diesel Highest end < Jetta Trendline

Altis diesel seems to be best choice in terms of space, but some compromise on the engine specs.

joshguy · 10th July 2010, 00:16

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Originally Posted by shuvc

I'd go with the Comfortline. The interiors feel wonderful.

Is the Laura really that much bigger inside?
Lower power - but then do you rip your car ? Else those 110 horses should be good enough for highway cruises.
Smaller boot - By how much?
DSG - Ah, well, this is probably the only reason to go for the Laura.

So if you must have an auto, then Laura, else take the VW

+1

Go for the Jetta

*The Laura is not spacious - i was also think like you till i sat in it one fine day.
*Both have the same engines
*Better Brand value
*Skoda is looked as a premium car only in India and in their own country

Let us know you decision

3rd July 2010, 21:00	#16
Rasputin BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 50 Thanked: 31 Times	In terms of Engine Laura DSG wins hands down, compared to Jetta. Laura DSG comes with a DOHC 16 Valve CR engine , that pumps out 140PS & 320 Nm . On contrast Jetta comes with the same engine as Non-DSG Lauras, which makes 110PS & 250NM. Moreover Laura has recently underwent a facelift and should be around at least for another 2 years; whereas a totally new look Jetta is coming early 2011.
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3rd July 2010, 23:20	#18
sabynag BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 218 Thanked: 2 Times	Jetta is getting replaced in US market this October. India may get the new model sometime next year. Given the very low sales volume of the current model, some years down the line spare parts availability may become a problem, especially for accident damages. People are scared of Skoda servicing cost. But I noticed in one of T-BHP threads that Jetta servicing cost is higher than even Superb. How is VW A.S.S. in Bangalore ? Last edited by sabynag : 3rd July 2010 at 23:21.
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4th July 2010, 23:43	#21
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,540 Thanked: 300,746 Times View My Garage	MSD, its a no-brainer situation you find yourself in. The Laura DSG is undoubtedly the superior here. For one, its is significantly more powerful. Two, DSG gearboxes offer the most supreme shift quality. This purchase will be a substantial upgrade from your Getz and I have a feeling you'll enjoy an automatic over a manual. Skoda's after-sales remains shabby overall, but as a dealer, Vinayak seems alright (IIRC, even Mod Ajmat's vRS goes to the same dealer). Don't expect stellar reliability though. The DSG gearboxes have inconsistent durability, and the air-con is a known Laura / Jetta weakness.
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5th July 2010, 10:36	#23
ampere Team-BHP Support Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,951 Thanked: 12,939 Times View My Garage	If I may provide a suggestion: Would you consider waiting for the Altis diesel, if you are OK with the lower performance option?
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5th July 2010, 10:37	#24
duke BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 225 Thanked: 137 Times	It appears the Skoda guys have been hearing the complaints and have almost done away with all the older dealers. In Delhi Silvertone and Continental have been wiped out, and made way for 4 new dealers. The service is remarkably better now.
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5th July 2010, 17:52	#27
veedub89 BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 518 Thanked: 1,079 Times	The DSG is an amazing thing to have. So the logical thing would be to go for the Laura but if you can wait for sometime then you can opt for the DSG Jetta. VW however hasn't released a official date for the launch of the DSG jetta so it could be a long wait.
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7th July 2010, 15:30	#28
msd63 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 96 Thanked: 2 Times	After the launch of the vento prototype yesterday, I have decided to wait to actually see the Vento and TD it and decide. The choice in my mind has come down to between Jetta trendline or Vento diesel highline. They are different segments, one is built in India and the other is CKD among other differences. I have to be convinced that Jetta is worth the extra 6L over the Vento diesel. I think I may also be swayed by the Altis diesel when it is launched. So things on hold till about August/September.
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9th July 2010, 22:17	#29
ampere Team-BHP Support Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,951 Thanked: 12,939 Times View My Garage	I guess you will have a shoot-out between Vento highline and Altis diesel highest end. My theory says, in the ascending order of pricing: Vento Highline < Altis Diesel Highest end < Jetta Trendline Altis diesel seems to be best choice in terms of space, but some compromise on the engine specs.
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