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Old 27th September 2013, 19:25   #16
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Sounds attractive and democratically inclined on its face. But not sure whether this is practicable.

Also, in principle if certain number of people who say none of the candidates is good, shouldn't they have worked on fielding a candidate who they think is good in the first place?

Are there any other countries where such procedure exists and does anyone know any instances where the procedure had come into play (such as resulting in re-voting etc.)
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Old 27th September 2013, 19:45   #17
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Also, in principle if certain number of people who say none of the candidates is good, shouldn't they have worked on fielding a candidate who they think is good in the first place?
General public does not decide the candidates for any of the political parties. Candidates are selected by the parties and then forced on to general public.

So if implemented correctly, this will be a way for general public to reject all the candidates if they feel that none of the candidates are worthy enough.
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Old 27th September 2013, 22:44   #18
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This would prove as more effective deterrent against political parties fielding candidates with dicey background.
I guess the voting percentage would go up now as the class which refrained from voting for dislike of all the contestants would have safer means of rejecting them.
Also since the outcome would be quite surprising, automatically contestants would spend lesser on campaign.
Hope this is the beginning of India's walk towards being a superpower.
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For those of you interested, the Judgment can be read here: http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/img...filename=40835
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There's a catch, incase you haven't realized.

If there are 100 votes polled, and 99 of them are to none of the above and one to a cadidate of party X, that candidate wins.

So, in a way this has been done to just massage your egos, its practically worthless addition.
Only for those who are inspired by the "Jaago Re" TV adverts and want to go and vote, and yet like nobody.
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If there are 100 votes polled, and 99 of them are to none of the above and one to a cadidate of party X, that candidate wins
Are you sure about that?

I must admit I haven't done any research on the Topic. Could you please substantiate your statement with any authoritative document?

If that's the how it works, I don't see a point in the new system.
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Are you sure about that?

I must admit I haven't done any research on the Topic. Could you please substantiate your statement with any authoritative document?

If that's the how it works, I don't see a point in the new system.
It seems to be accurate. Please see this news article - http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...ion-commission
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On the recent spree of the verdicts by the Supreme Court, mostly in favour of the citizens of the country, soon the Govt. will bring a new ordinance: Right to reject the SC Verdict

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If the candidate with the highest vote count other than NOTA still gets to win, this system is useless.
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In India, "the first past the post" system is followed. he candidate with the most votes still wins.The Right to reject will do nothing towards weeding out bad candidates. Parties can field rotten apples and get away with it. An effective rider would be to conduct a re election(in that constituency) with a different set of candidates if the number of rejects is higher than the votes polled by an other candidate. That way, parties will think twice before propping up bad candidates
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There's a catch, incase you haven't realized.

If there are 100 votes polled, and 99 of them are to none of the above and one to a cadidate of party X, that candidate wins.

So, in a way this has been done to just massage your egos, its practically worthless addition.
Only for those who are inspired by the "Jaago Re" TV adverts and want to go and vote, and yet like nobody.
It is quite a serious weapon in our hands actually. If,"none of the above" polls more than a certain number of candidates put together, a re-election should be held for that constituency.

But that does not seem to be the case here. What is the use? According to Wikipedia:

"NOTA is different from an advocated concept of "right to reject" (RTR). Election Commission sources explained that the NOTA option would not effect the result of an election where over 50% of the electorate chose to cast NOTA. Former Chief Election Commissioner N Gopalaswami clarified that, "Even if 90 voters in an electorate of 100 persons press the NOTA button, the poll will be decided in favour of the candidate who gets the maximum of the remaining 10 votes".

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I think if "none of the above" polls more than a certain number of candidates put together, a re-election will have to be held for that constituency.
Nope. The number of rejects will be recorded for statistical purposes only. The rejects will not affect the outcome of the election in any way.This is just a variation of what is prescribed in Section 49(O)[which says the voter can get her/his finger inked & choose not to vote]
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Nope. The number of rejects will be recorded for statistical purposes only. The rejects will not affect the outcome of the election in any way.This is just a variation of what is prescribed in Section 49(O)[which says the voter can get her/his finger inked & choose not to vote]
If this is a case then this NOTA is a real hogwash. Rather than spending millions of rupees on such statistical analysis the election commission should do something which puts real power in hands of people.
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Many don't turn up for voting because they dislike all the candidates. With this NOTA button many such voters are expected to turn out and exercise this option, which will effectively block 'proxy voting' by party workers.
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