The Nimitz is coming : Now Docked!

WhiteKnight · 4th July 2007, 16:10

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Originally Posted by Rtech

What i don't get is the issue made about it being a nuclear powered ship. Also, are they seriously worried that they are carrying nuclear missiles? I mean c'mon!

There is no issue. Some political parties are so addicted to protests, dharnas and bandh (now conveniently called hartaal). Come to kerala for a glimpse. One would expect them to behave well atleast when they are in power, but naeee, they still do it. In fact they even raised an allegation that CIA funded newspapers and other parties to do a propoganda drive against them.

At least they should have appreciated that Americans use left-hand drive cars

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Originally Posted by theMAG

They must be partying off Goa

Sure the Nimitz folks would be crying then

bottle · 4th July 2007, 16:12

wonder if its visible from the beach .. might take a look tomorrow but if someone else has passed by please post

spadival · 4th July 2007, 16:17

Isnt there a Nuclear reactor just a stones throw away from Chennai.. cant remember the name.. think its Kalpakum. WHats the left parties complaining about?

I dont get these "left-over" chaps from the Soviet era.. Mind u..I am happy that I dont get them

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csentil · 4th July 2007, 16:59

Yes, there's a Nuclear Power Plant at Kalpakkam around 50kms+ from Chennai. And btw India has the 2nd largest reserves of Thorium which is found on the beach sands of TN & Kerala (if I remember right). So there is natural radiation found in the beaches but which is not considered harmful.

MC Mayank · 4th July 2007, 17:28

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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

Just curious. Where is the rest of the battle group? No talk in TV or newspapers about those.
If not the full group, atleast Nimitz should be accompanied by its supply ship as well as couple of Frigates and a Submarine.

Do aircraft carriers always travel as part of a fleet? And what is a supply ship?

arunphilip · 4th July 2007, 18:48

@MC Mayank: Yes, aircraft carriers always travel in battlegroups, which consist of 1 or 2 carriers, and other ships as WhiteKnight has mentioned.

Frigates accompany it for air defence and anti-sub defence, submarines accompany it for anti-sub and anti-ship defence. Apart from this, the supply ships carry food, aviation spares, aviation fuel, and bunker fuel (ship fuel) for non-nuclear escorts (i.e. the carriers and subs are nuclear powered, frigates may not be).

WhiteKnight · 5th July 2007, 09:36

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Originally Posted by MC Mayank

Do aircraft carriers always travel as part of a fleet?

Atleast the US ones do. If you notice the news, two people were addressing the press conference, one is a full blown admiral- Chief of the Battle group, and the other is a Captain of the carrier.
I didn't mention Destroyers, as on friendlt visits as these, they may not accompany the carrier.

@arunphilip, thank you for chipping in

MC Mayank · 5th July 2007, 11:08

Even in peace time the whole circus moves together!

So where are chintoo, bintoo and bablu and papplu in that case?

appuchan · 5th July 2007, 22:02

Got a new twist to the story from Karan Thapar's interview of Mr Raja from CPM in IBN.

He says Nimitz was involved in pressurising Iran for Nuclear deterrence and Iraq war and hence it is "blood stained". We are friendly with Iran and hence this ship now coming to India in the guise of peaceful mission cannot be "allowed". This point he raised after Karan cut him into pieces for their usual "Nuclear power/armed argument" he was making.

Mayavi · 5th July 2007, 23:35

aaah, these Communist jokers are concerned about every country but India.
If Nimitz is blood stained then all the communists should be banished from India because the no disease or war killed more people than communism did.

v1p3r · 6th July 2007, 00:32

So some ship is around. What's the big deal?

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Originally Posted by Mayavi

no disease or war killed more people than communism did.

How do you figure that?

Mayavi · 6th July 2007, 01:21

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

So some ship is around. What's the big deal?

Ship? Its a floating city! So a big deal for enthusiasts and for the protestors who are ready to protest anything and everything.

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

How do you figure that?

Stalin.
Mao.
Polpot.
The Great Leader and The Great Leaders Son.

But I want to correct myself, communism didn't kill anyone, it is the communists.

Back to Nimitz.

WhiteKnight · 6th July 2007, 11:45

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Originally Posted by Mayavi

Back to Nimitz.

Nimitz left indian waters yesterday.
It is reported to be heading back to Gulf. I sincerely hope the protesters also leave Indian shores

v1p3r · 6th July 2007, 20:59

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Originally Posted by Mayavi

Ship? Its a floating city! So a big deal for enthusiasts and for the protestors who are ready to protest anything and everything.

FYI, the Queen Mary II and the Freedom of the Seas are 50% bigger.

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Originally Posted by Mayavi

But I want to correct myself, communism didn't kill anyone, it is the communists.

I'm sure you've heard this before: guns don't kill people, people do.

esteem_lover · 6th July 2007, 21:06

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

FYI, the Queen Mary and the Freedom of the Seas are 50% bigger.

But those are passenger ships. And queen mary has retired long back even before i was born. it is currently a hotel. RMS Queen Elizabeth was a lot bigger than the Queen Mary, but was scrapped in 1975.

Length
1. Freedom of the seas (biggest passenger vessel) : 338.77M
-----do----- : Overall (between perpendiculars) :303.21
2. USS Nimitz (Navy Super Carrier) : 333 m, Water line - 317m

P.S. I dont have that much knowledge about ships, i just googled it & got these info from the wikipedia. Overall, it seems one of the biggest ships in the world has anchored near our coast.

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spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Isnt there a Nuclear reactor just a stones throw away from Chennai.. cant remember the name.. think its Kalpakum. WHats the left parties complaining about? I dont get these "left-over" chaps from the Soviet era.. Mind u..I am happy that I dont get them .
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csentil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,349 Thanked: 38 Times View My Garage	Yes, there's a Nuclear Power Plant at Kalpakkam around 50kms+ from Chennai. And btw India has the 2nd largest reserves of Thorium which is found on the beach sands of TN & Kerala (if I remember right). So there is natural radiation found in the beaches but which is not considered harmful.
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arunphilip Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,989 Thanked: 6,171 Times View My Garage	@MC Mayank: Yes, aircraft carriers always travel in battlegroups, which consist of 1 or 2 carriers, and other ships as WhiteKnight has mentioned. Frigates accompany it for air defence and anti-sub defence, submarines accompany it for anti-sub and anti-ship defence. Apart from this, the supply ships carry food, aviation spares, aviation fuel, and bunker fuel (ship fuel) for non-nuclear escorts (i.e. the carriers and subs are nuclear powered, frigates may not be).
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MC Mayank BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 3 Times	Even in peace time the whole circus moves together! So where are chintoo, bintoo and bablu and papplu in that case?
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appuchan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangy Posts: 642 Thanked: 27 Times	Got a new twist to the story from Karan Thapar's interview of Mr Raja from CPM in IBN. He says Nimitz was involved in pressurising Iran for Nuclear deterrence and Iraq war and hence it is "blood stained". We are friendly with Iran and hence this ship now coming to India in the guise of peaceful mission cannot be "allowed". This point he raised after Karan cut him into pieces for their usual "Nuclear power/armed argument" he was making. Last edited by appuchan : 5th July 2007 at 22:05.
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Mayavi BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 682 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	aaah, these Communist jokers are concerned about every country but India. If Nimitz is blood stained then all the communists should be banished from India because the no disease or war killed more people than communism did.
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