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I recently had an interesting encounter with Google's Bard AI that revealed an intriguing quirk worth discussing. While Bard AI is widely acclaimed for its poetic prowess and storytelling abilities, it seems to stumble on a simple arithmetic calculation.

During a conversation, I asked Bard AI to compute a life path number for a specific date of birth. Surprisingly, Bard provided a numerical calculation that resulted in an incorrect answer, showcasing a simple arithmetic mistake.

Have any of you experienced similar quirks or surprises with Bard AI or other AI systems? Let's delve into these curious AI traits and share our thoughts!

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Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 5570546)
And the biggest threat will be from traditional services companies like TCS/Infosys/Wipro/HCL and their ilk. With ChatGPT APIs, these service companies can easily out compete smaller AI companies, whose main USP just got neutralized. The large service companies have the connections and brand value to corner most of the business in conversation AI space thanks to ChatGPT.

And it has started happening.

TCS bets big on Azure Open AI, plans to train 25,000 engineers

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IT behemoth Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) has furthered its partnership with Microsoft by announcing plans to scale its Azure OpenAI expertise by training 25,000 engineers on Azure OpenAI. The IT services giant also plans on launching its new Generative AI Enterprise Adoption offering on Microsoft Cloud.

According to Stability AI CEO Emad Mostaque, most outsourced coders in India will lose their jobs in two years

https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes...ders/101915631

Well, as I have said before, it is not going to happen in near future. These experts who are making these predictions, have no idea about software services industry. If you try to provide software services using AI, there will a whole bunch of very angry customers.

This is turning out to be like Greta Thunberg's predictions on climate change:

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"Most outsourced programmers in India will see their jobs wiped out in the next year or two, Stability AI CEO Emad Mostaque said."

"Mostaque, on a call with UBS analysts, said that most of the country’s outsourced coders will lose their jobs as the effects of AI mean that it is now possible for software to be developed with far fewer people."

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Has any assessment been done in terms of carbon emission comparison of the same job performed by AI vs human being, on standalone basis (cost of energy and resources for specific task) as well as overall infrastructure (cost of "living" also included)?

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Originally Posted by JediKnight (Post 5588191)
"Most outsourced programmers in India will see their jobs wiped out in the next year or two, Stability AI CEO Emad Mostaque said."
"Mostaque, on a call with UBS analysts, said that most of the country’s outsourced coders will lose their jobs as the effects of AI mean that it is now possible for software to be developed with far fewer people."

I don't see that happening anytime soon. Some low end tasks yes, in bits and pieces yes but not bespoke jobs. I can't say where things will be in 20 years but not anytime soon. As an AI CEO this is the sort of eye catching statement he needs to make! Also demand for software continues to grow at a very rapid pace as digitization enters all aspects of our lives. Need for software over next 25 years I suspect is a multiple of the software capital built over the last 25 years.

As part of a bigger task, the team I work with was supposed to provide some work last week. No one got around to doing it since all of us were busy with our segments of the bigger task. So the manager that was waiting for the overall output used ChatGPT to generate that tiny bit.

The generated output was not as elegant as one of us would do it, in fact, it was a bit hollow- but it did the job. And since the manager had 'generated' it, it went out with the whole bit of work (that team has a HiPPO problem). Now no alarm bells yet- what was handled was a tiny bit of the overall work and the rest of the work can't be handled (yet!) by LLMs. But the writing is on the wall. Better we start using these tools for those bits of work, and gain efficiencies, before we have no say in the matter at all.

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Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 5593845)
What kind of work was it? Documentation, code, test plan, design, ...

Marketing doc.

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Originally Posted by am1m (Post 5593838)
The generated output was not as elegant as one of us would do it, in fact, it was a bit hollow- but it did the job.

What kind of work was it? Documentation, code, test plan, design, ...

Of course CEO is playing to the gallery for news, however :
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Originally Posted by JediKnight (Post 5588191)
as the effects of AI mean that it is now possible for software to be developed with far fewer people.

AI will increase productivity of software development for sure. As a practical example :
  1. Take a DB Dump of TeamBhp-like Forum
  2. Configure a pipeline with OpenAI / Palm / LLaMA to text to SQL
  3. Run queries like : "Who is biggest evangelist for Maruti" / "Who is most popular Author" / Which hour of day is busiest for XYZ Topic

I think most developers will be surprised at the quality of Output and ability to make sense of a DB dump and figure out context.

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Originally Posted by am1m (Post 5593838)
Marketing doc.

Ah, very easy to do with that since probabilistic output is acceptable for marketing materials.

If the output is supposed to be deterministic, then it wouldn't work.

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Originally Posted by am1m (Post 5593838)
But the writing is on the wall. Better we start using these tools for those bits of work, and gain efficiencies, before we have no say in the matter at all.

These GenAI models are getting pretty darn good. Very soon these capabilities will be embedded within Microsoft Office as Copilot. I am waiting for the day when those powerpoint slides will get automatically created just at the click of a few buttons. These tools are going to be the biggest productivity hacks of all time and people who are familiar with it will definitely have an advantage.

Just look at this 2 minute video as an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7xTBa93TX8

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Originally Posted by warrioraks (Post 5593974)
I am waiting for the day when those powerpoint slides will get automatically created just at the click of a few buttons.

Oh already there to some extent- what I remember the CEO at my first job in the early 2000s asking a graphic designer to do to make his important slides more visually appealing, is already being done within PPT by the 'Designer' feature. (And a lot of vacuous, higher-management presentations are basically 90% fluff anyway- so those are easily LLM'd :))

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Originally Posted by warrioraks (Post 5593974)
These tools are going to be the biggest productivity hacks of all time and people who are familiar with it will definitely have an advantage.

Yep, that's what I was getting at, better to adopt and use as productivity hacks instead of worrying if they will replace humans, etc.

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Originally Posted by am1m (Post 5593978)
Yep, that's what I was getting at, better to adopt and use as productivity hacks instead of worrying if they will replace humans, etc.

Same thing was said about DIY software such as Foxpro / Oracle Forms in 90s.. I.e. developers will not be needed , just that developers got way more productive once routine tasks were automated away.

As you said, it is crucial for developers to learn these tools to remain relevant few years down the line.

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Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 5593845)
What kind of work was it? Documentation, code, test plan, design, ...

We are using AI tools for proposal making at a client's space. It is not client ready, but it provides a very good first draft to then work on, referencing past tenders for components used, costs etc.

In other words, a more sophisticated "mother" proposal -- if you understand what I mean...


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