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Netflix has reportedly floated for AI jobs in the midst of the strike of writers in Hollywood with salary of $900K. They already use AI to determine number of episodes after which audience growth will be flat and number of seasons. Of course both numbers are down and people are angry !

I use chatGPT to create code that I use for testing and other things. But I have found that it gives wrong confusing answers for little technical things. On pointing it out it apologizes and fixes it. So you need to know what you want with what you already know :uncontrol

I was reading a report on productivity and from 2005 to now, the productivity in US, UK etc has gone down by 0.5-0.6% even with all the digitization !

I think we will work along with AI and worry about something else that we will cook up and come up with later. But there will be issues with things we dont want AI to handle involving bias, defense etc

Excellent summary of current LLM landscape :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=880TBXMuzmk

OpenAI's ChatGPT app is finally available for download on Google Playstore:

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https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-...-12986012.html

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ChatGPT In Trouble: OpenAI may go bankrupt by 2024, AI bot costs company $700,000 every day
OpenAI spends about $700,000 a day, just to keep ChatGPT going. The cost does not include other AI products like GPT-4 and DALL-E2. Right now, it is pulling through only because of Microsoft's $10 billion funding.

Charging users $20 per month is not the way to go. They will eventually have to follow search engine/social media model of using advertising to pay for their bills and make profits.

This company is not going bankrupt. Worst case, it will be acquired by Microsoft.

However I am really surprised to see how fast open source alternates have come up (Example - Llama 2) that are nearly as good as ChatGPT.
Clearly shows that although OpenAI got a lot of limelight initially, they do not have much competitive advantage in the market as a stand-alone entity.

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Originally Posted by warrioraks (Post 5603331)
Clearly shows that although OpenAI got a lot of limelight initially, they do not have much competitive advantage in the market as a stand-alone entity.

That is OK. There were 20 search engines in the year 2000, which all seemed similar at the first glance. But eventually only 3 survived and one thrived. The differences in UI/response quality etc will show up over time & users will gravitate towards the best of the lot.

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Originally Posted by SmartCat (Post 5603336)
That is OK. There were 20 search engines in the year 2000, which all seemed similar at the first glance. But eventually only 3 survived and one thrived. The differences in UI/response quality etc will show up over time & users will gravitate towards the best of the lot.

If you think of this from the perspective of OpenAI CEO, this might not be OK. Infact this is a nightmare scenario where he has to now compete with 20 companies and fight for survival at a time where media reports are talking of bankruptcy. The more competition there is, lesser are the odds of the company's success.

I know of organizations who have moved away from OpenAI to opensource models in the last month. It seems OpenAI is no longer the holy grail for LLMs and it's first mover advantage is rapidly diminishing in the market.

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Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 5570546)
The upcoming ChatGPT Business or a private instance of ChatGPT can wipe out AI SaaS companies too unless they quickly replace their in-house engine with ChatGPT APIs. This turns them from a product company to a pure services company.

Well, many companies tried to remain SaaS company based on ChatGPT APIs, instead of trying to become a pure service company as I had predicted. No idea what edge they expected to have over OpenAI.

Finally, the ChatGPT Enterprise is out. There is no edge, they are toast.

https://analyticsindiamag.com/the-be...saas-startups/

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Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 5615204)
Well, many companies tried to remain SaaS company based on ChatGPT APIs, instead of trying to become a pure service company as I had predicted. No idea what edge they expected to have over OpenAI.

Finally, the ChatGPT Enterprise is out. There is no edge, they are toast.

https://analyticsindiamag.com/the-be...saas-startups/

their only chance going forward is to invest into competing open models and then use them in their APIs and compete with chatGPT. Something like what linux did for operating systems. Now enterprise runs Linux.

As open source models pick up, and with backing from companies not partnering with openAI, eventually, the training data for open source models is going to get better.

Even google said
https://www.semianalysis.com/p/googl...at-and-neither

These days we see hoards of Advertisements on Youtube with different Indian startup training companies claiming to give you an edge by offering their courses on Prompt Engineering etc..

Question is has anyone actually tried out any of these online courses and found that they really do make a difference ?
I am keen on joining one of them, but unable to filter out the fakes from the actually beneficial ones ?

Edit: I would not call them "fakes" but rather how to filter out the "generic time waster" courses that tell us what we already know.

Can anyone shed some light on this aspect ?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/t...an-ousted.html

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OpenAI’s Board Pushes Out Sam Altman, Its High-Profile C.E.O.
Mira Murati, who previously served as chief technology officer, has been named interim chief executive.
I half expected ChatGPT to replace him. :D

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Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 5663704)

Another Co-founder Greg Brockman quits OpenAI hours later

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OpenAI co-founder and President Greg Brockman said he's departing from the maker of generative artificial intelligence tools just hours after the board pushed out Chief Executive Officer Sam Altman.

The name 'Mira Murati' sounds Indian (like Mira Murthy), but apparently she is Albanian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira_Murati

Murati is a common surname in Albania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murati

But Indian media uses their imagination rather than look up facts. When you type 'Mira Murati Indian', you get these search results rl:

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Longer article by Bloomberg on what led to Sam Altman's shock firing.


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