Team-BHP > Shifting gears
Register New Topics New Posts Top Thanked Team-BHP FAQ


Reply
  Search this Thread
26,561 views
Old 22nd March 2023, 09:43   #1
BHPian
 
Chhanda Das's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 372
Thanked: 2,717 Times
DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Making a DIY 12v Lithium-ion battery at home


DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-1.jpg
If it looks like a lead-acid battery then it must be a lead-acid battery, right ? Not necessarily

Here is how my son made a 12v Lithium-ion battery but first a little background information. We had a 6 year old UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) battery of capacity 7.5 Ah that had died twice in the past and had been refurbished twice with some fresh battery acid solution. We had been using that battery for the past 2 years as a solar battery (with a 50 watt solar panel) for running a small fan (6-7 watts), a small dimmed light (3.5 watts) and the occasional charging of USB devices. That battery weighed approximately 2.25 kilograms. Recently, that battery started showing signs of dying again. As a result, we decided that we have had enough and wanted to upgrade to a lithium battery. And since the prices of lithium battery packs are exorbitant (relatively speaking), my son decided to make one by himself again using salvaged cells from dead laptop computer battery packs. For that, he drew heavily from the experience gained during an earlier DIY project involving the making of a portable power station (link below).

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-d...r-station.html (DIY: Portable Lithium Power Station)

Hence, for fear of being repetitive, this thread will be a largely pictorial account. So put your seatbelts on, grab a snack, grab a drink and let us begin.

Firstly, we needed to determine how many 18650 model cells could be installed in a 3S (3 cells in series) configuration inside the lead-acid battery's case. In our instance, we found that we could install exactly 21 such cells inside the case while accounting for the battery management system (BMS) printed circuit board (PCB) as well. The image below shows the 3 cells in perfectly fine working condition that my son managed to salvage from his own laptop computer's dead battery pack.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-salvage-laptop.jpg

Similar to the ones above, my son managed to salvage more cells from dead battery packs of laptop computers that he purchased from computer repair shops near our location.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-cells-arranged-spacers.jpg

Here are the details of the cells from left to right in the image above that we found online as follows :-

1)
The first 6 cells with the orange wrapper.
Name:  Cell rows 1 and 2.png
Views: 3752
Size:  54.2 KB

2)
The next 3 cells with the brown wrapper
Name:  Cell row 3.png
Views: 3753
Size:  53.3 KB

3)
The next 6 cells with the blue wrapper.
Name:  Cell rows 4 and 5.png
Views: 3743
Size:  55.1 KB

4)
The next 3 cells with the blue wrapper.
Name:  Cell row 6.png
Views: 3738
Size:  51.0 KB

5)
The final 3 cells with the green wrapper.
Name:  Cell row 7.png
Views: 3800
Size:  57.6 KB

However, we could not fit the cells inside the case if we used the plastic spacers and hence we had to go ahead without the spacers. On the other hand, we still needed to find a way to keep the cells physically separated from each other to prevent thermal runaway so that even if one cell overheats then the remaining ones would remain unaffected up to an extent. But we had to somehow hold the cells together as well and hence we decided to go for some double-sided adhesive tape.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-cells-stuck-each-other-double-sided-tape.jpg

Then the cells were bound by some polyimide adhesive tape aka Kapton tape and 18650 ring insulators made of barley paper were attached around the positive terminals of the cells. After that nickel-plated strips with a cross-sectional area of 7 mm x 0.15 mm were spot welded to the cells in such a way as to make a 3S7P (3 cells in series 7 cells in parallel) battery pack as you can see in the image below.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-nickel-plated-strips-spot-welded-3s7p-configuration.jpg

Finally, after coating the 6 terminals of the BMS with some melted soldering wire, we attached two small wires of 1 square millimetre cross-sectional area to the main input/output terminals of the BMS. Sadly, we could not find a black coloured wire for the negative terminal and had to make do with the red wire. Then the BMS was attached to one of the smaller sides of the battery pack (using a double layer of double-sided adhesive tape) corresponding to the cell voltages of the battery pack. The remaining terminals were spot welded to the nickel-plated strips of the 3S7P battery pack as per the voltages and/or polarities. The unnecessary portions/terminals of the nickel-plated strips were obviously cut off from the battery pack before the spot welding. Then the battery pack was covered completely with polyimide adhesive tape. Here it is important to note that we could have easily gone for a 20 ampere BMS but we went for the 40 ampere one to maintain some scope for capacity upgrades in the future if necessary.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-spot-welded-bms-covered-battery-pack-kapton-tape.jpg

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-side-view-after-bms.jpg

Now keeping the Lithium battery pack aside, it was time to prepare the housing case for the battery pack. My son took the old 7.5 Ah lead-acid battery and completely drained all the electrical power from it by connecting a 12v bulb that had a filament in it. When the voltage was completely zero, he removed the top cover of the lead-acid battery and all 6 rubber valve caps. Then he drained all the electrolyte solution and gave the battery a thorough wash under running water. Next, he used a bow saw (a hack saw would work too) to carefully cut the main top cover of the lead acid battery horizontally. Here is the result in the image below after removing all the lead plates from the 6 individual chambers inside the housing case.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-lead-plates-electrolyte-removed.jpg

Now he had to remove the individual cell partitions from the case and make the case as obstacle-free as possible for the lithium battery pack to go in it. He used a pair of small tin-cutting scissors for this.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-lead-acid-cell-partitions-removed.jpg

Then he had to solder the main input/output wires of the Lithium battery pack's BMS to the terminals of the housing case of the erstwhile lead-acid battery as per the markings on the terminals.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-bms-wires-soldered-terminals.jpg

Finally, he cut some cardboard pieces to size and inserted them on all 6 outer sides of the Lithium battery pack to prevent it from rattling around inside the Lead-acid battery's case. Please note that this is not sponsored by Amazon. We just happened to have some Amazon delivery boxes lying around from when we had gotten some stuff delivered to our home from them.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-cardboard-packing-done.jpg

Finally, he used some adhesive cellophane tape to keep the lead acid battery case's cover attached to the case. As an alternative, we can also use some acrylic-based glues like Fevikwik, etc or epoxy compounds like M-seal, etc for cleaner aesthetics.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-battery-complete.jpg

In the end, the total rated capacity of this Lithium-ion battery pack came to 17.05 Ah with the maximum charging current restricted to 15.6 amperes at 12.6 volts. We are not too worried about the maximum discharge rate of this battery pack since we will never be drawing more than 30 watts of power at a time. The charging rate will not exceed (5+2.5) amperes since that is the maximum production capacity of the (100+50) watt solar panels connected to a PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) solar charge controller in my home. The final weight of this battery came to less than 1.20 kilograms.

For reference, here is a size comparison with a 35 Ah lead-acid car battery which can safely deliver approximately the same amount of usable power as the 17.05 Ah Lithium-ion battery that my son made, theoretically speaking.

DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home-20230323_103354.jpg

The total cost of making this 17.05 Ah 12v Lithium-ion battery came to less than INR 650. Please note that the cost will be lower by approximately INR 100 if you use a 20 ampere-rated BMS instead of the 40 ampere BMS that we used. This battery pack would still run absolutely fine with the 20 ampere BMS.

Disclaimer : If you want to replicate this project then please do so at your own risk.

I hope that you found the above interesting and I wish you all happy and safe drives ahead

Last edited by Chhanda Das : 23rd March 2023 at 10:49.
Chhanda Das is offline   (74) Thanks
Old 24th March 2023, 06:15   #2
Team-BHP Support
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 17,830
Thanked: 77,043 Times
re: DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Thread moved out from the Assembly Line. Thanks for sharing!
Aditya is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 24th March 2023, 10:50   #3
Senior - BHPian
 
clevermax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Tvm/Amsterdam
Posts: 2,086
Thanked: 2,640 Times
re: DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Excellent DIY! One question - since you've used cells of different make and models and at different states of their service life, aren't some of them going to get over-discharged and go bad soon? I would attempt this project with fresh cells of same make and model.
clevermax is offline   (6) Thanks
Old 24th March 2023, 11:10   #4
BHPian
 
bobbyblr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 137
Thanked: 447 Times
re: DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Can you mention the the number of cells in series & number of cells in parallel. If possible share the schematic of the cells configuration. I am assuming you have 3 cells in series and 7 cells in parallel as you have mentioned that 21 cells are used.

And where did you get the BMS module from and does this BMS module do the cell balancing ?

Cell balancing is very important for any Lithium chemistry cells.
bobbyblr is offline   (3) Thanks
Old 24th March 2023, 13:55   #5
BHPian
 
AJ56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Gurgaon
Posts: 576
Thanked: 2,210 Times
re: DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Good effort but the way it is currently, how will you balance the cells? Cell balancing is critical to safe operation of lithium batteries.

Last edited by AJ56 : 24th March 2023 at 13:57.
AJ56 is offline   (3) Thanks
Old 24th March 2023, 16:21   #6
BHPian
 
Chhanda Das's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 372
Thanked: 2,717 Times
Re: DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Quote:
Originally Posted by clevermax View Post
Excellent DIY! One question - since you've used cells of different make and models and at different states of their service life, aren't some of them going to get over-discharged and go bad soon? I would attempt this project with fresh cells of same make and model.
Thank you for appreciating my son's efforts.

We only use the best cells after refurbishing them which involves charging and discharging each cell individually a few times. If the cell holds a voltage of 4.2 volts after a week of being left alone, only then it is used to make a battery pack. So we only use the best quality of refurbished cells. Additionally, we have always used the 3 cells of the exact same make, model and age in the same series of 3 cells. The capacities of the cells may be different but their voltages are the exact same and that is where the BMS's balancing function and over-discharge protection come into play. The balancing function of the BMS keeps the voltages of the cells balanced in the same parallel sequence. The over-discharge protection of the BMS does not let the cells in the same parallel sequence go below the 2.5 volt mark. I mentioned all of the above and more in an earlier thread whose link I shared near the beginning of this thread in my post above.

The cells will eventually go bad but not anytime soon. For reference, we are still using the 12v 25 Ah Lithium battery that we had made in the exact same way as above for a DIY portable power station in early 2022 and we have not noticed any degradation in it as of today, touchwood. Coincidentally, that DIY 12v 25 Ah Lithium battery also has the exact same BMS as the one my son used to make the 12v 17.05 Ah Lithium battery above. I did not mention all of this above in this thread for fear of sounding repetitive.

As you correctly mentioned, fresh cells of the same make and model are definitely desirable but refurbished cells would work too as long as the proper precautions are followed and as long as we do not push the battery pack or cells to their absolute limits.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyblr View Post
I am assuming you have 3 cells in series and 7 cells in parallel as you have mentioned that 21 cells are used.
And where did you get the BMS module from and does this BMS module do the cell balancing ?
Cell balancing is very important for any Lithium chemistry cells.
Yes, cell balancing is indeed very important for all lithium-based cells and the BMS that my son used does have a balancing functionality as well apart from being a protection board which I also mentioned to our fellow Bhpian clevermax above. And your assumption is absolutely correct because it is indeed a 3S7P (3 cells in series and 7 numbers of 3S sets in parallel) configuration.

Shown below is a schematic of a 3S60A BMS which shows 3S2P wiring. One difference between our 3S40A BMS and the 3S60A BMS shown below is that in our BMS, the load terminals and the charging terminals are the same. The other obvious difference is the current-handling capacity.

Name:  3s60a bms.png
Views: 3678
Size:  268.6 KB

The 3S40A BMS module is the same one that we used in an earlier DIY project as well and touchwood, that too is performing exactly as intended. Hence, we can absolutely vouch for this 3S40A BMS. This BMS is available on websites like Robu, Amazon, Quartz Components, ElectronicsComp.com, etc as well as in local shops. Earlier, we had purchased this BMS from Robu but this time we got it from a local shop here in Kolkata.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ56 View Post
Good effort but the way it is currently, how will you balance the cells? Cell balancing is critical to safe operation of lithium batteries.
Thank you for your appreciation of my son's effort.

As I mentioned to our fellow Bhpians clevermax and bobbyblr above, balancing of the cells is absolutely essential for Lithium cells which you mentioned as well. My son already chose the best-refurbished cells and the balancing aspect is being taken care of by the BMS which has a balancing functionality as well.

I hope that I was able to assuage all of your very valid concerns. However, please feel free to ask/share more if necessary

Last edited by Chhanda Das : 24th March 2023 at 16:34.
Chhanda Das is offline   (8) Thanks
Old 24th March 2023, 16:28   #7
BHPian
 
edunata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 56
Thanked: 350 Times
Re: DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Nice DIY. I have two questions.

How did you manage to procure the exact BMS required for the battery pack ?
How did the dead cells started working again ?
edunata is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 24th March 2023, 16:41   #8
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: KL
Posts: 69
Thanked: 678 Times
Re: DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Quote:
Originally Posted by edunata View Post
How did the dead cells started working again ?
I had the same question too, so I checked out the other thread mentioned and found this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chhanda Das View Post
Refurbishing the cells is nothing but discharging and recharging the individual cells a few times at the rated current and voltage to see if the cell holds the charge or not after a few days after the cell is disconnected from all loads and charging. If the cell retains the voltage after a few days then it is considered reusable. It is as simple as that. Li-ion cells can be easily reclaimed from dead/defective laptop battery packs and power banks.
d.w.w. is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 24th March 2023, 17:21   #9
BHPian
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 255
Thanked: 536 Times
Re: DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Very nice DIY.

Just a question - would the cardboard packing inside the box be a fire hazard, since paper/cardboards catch fire easily.

Does the BMS check temperature also & throws some alerts? Any other way to keep track of temperatures & throw alerts, especially since Li battery fires would be almost impossible to douse.
aashishnb is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 24th March 2023, 21:10   #10
BHPian
 
Chhanda Das's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 372
Thanked: 2,717 Times
Re: DIY: Making a DIY 12v Lithium-Ion battery at home

Quote:
Originally Posted by edunata View Post
Nice DIY. I have two questions.
How did you manage to procure the exact BMS required for the battery pack ?
How did the dead cells started working again ?
Thank you for your appreciation of my son's efforts.

For making Lithium battery packs like this, the cell configuration (for example 1S, 2S, 3S, 4S, etc) and the maximum charge/discharge rate of the battery pack are the primary criteria for choosing a BMS. As a general rule of thumb, one can also use the Ah rating of the battery pack as a criterion for choosing the BMS. The maximum current rating of the BMS has to exceed the maximum Ah rating of the battery pack. In our case, my son could have gone for a 20 ampere-rated 3S BMS since the battery pack was going to be a 17.05 Ah one. However, he chose a 40 ampere-rated 3S BMS to have the scope for capacity additions in the future if necessary.

BMS boards are easily available both online and in local shops. Earlier, I had purchased it online from Robu but this time I got it for my son from a local shop here in Kolkata. The shop is located on the third floor of the Naba Bharat building in the Chandni Chowk area of Kolkata if you are interested. They deal in a very wide variety of printed circuit boards.

About your second question, the dead cells were always discarded. During the initial days of the earlier 12v 25 Ah Lithium battery-making project, we tried some very risky techniques like inserting a fine pin into the vents below the positive terminals of the cells to release the trapped gases and/or lightly hammering on the positive terminals themselves but those never worked for us. I hope this helps

Quote:
Originally Posted by aashishnb View Post
Very nice DIY.
Just a question - would the cardboard packing inside the box be a fire hazard, since paper/cardboards catch fire easily.
Does the BMS check temperature also & throws some alerts? Any other way to keep track of temperatures & throw alerts, especially since Li battery fires would be almost impossible to douse.
Thank you for appreciating my son's efforts.

Under normal circumstances, most cardboard packing materials are indeed fire hazards but this situation is a bit different.

Firstly, let us talk about the construction of 18650 model Lithium cells. These cells are constructed in such a way that when the cells overheat beyond a limit then they release a tiny bit of gas which instantly pushes away the positive end of the cell. Basically, the cell splits into two on the inside and hence dies immediately. Then there is an insulating plastic wrapper on the outside of each cell. Finally, my son covered the entire battery pack with adhesive polyimide tape which is known to be fireproof upto around the 260 degrees centigrade mark. Moreover, the BMS would cut the power to the row of the affected cell after sensing a voltage imbalance way before a cell catches on fire.

In summary, what I am trying to say is that by the time a cell catches fire, the presence/absence of cardboard materials would already have become irrelevant. Moreover, a 18650 Lithium cell catching on fire would definitely fall in the rarest of the rare categories if we stick to the recommended standard charging/discharging rate.

The BMS that my son used does not check the temperature or throw any alerts since this is a passive BMS that solely relies on voltage sensing. From what we experienced with this battery and the earlier one, these do not even get warm to the touch as long as we stick to the standard charging/discharging limits religiously. However, if you want an added layer of safety based on the temperature, then you can definitely go for an expensive active BMS with temperature-sensing functionality and Bluetooth/WiFi connectivity. A much cheaper but equally effective alternative would be to add either a 20 ampere or a 40 ampere 12v inline microcontroller-based digital temperature controller aka thermostat switch in conjuction with a relay to the passive BMS that we used. I hope this helps
Chhanda Das is offline   (6) Thanks
Reply

Most Viewed


Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks