[kosjam]

Originally Posted by SN88

This happened last month to my house maid. She is a young 20 something girl working at my home. I am sure she must be active on social media platforms.

The profanity I used that day in rage to the scammer I wont forget. I just pray they atleast leave the poor out of this!

Unfortunately the poor hardworking class is the most afflicted by such scams, most don't even come forward, as they feel going to the police is pointless. They just keep toiling, accepting it as their fate.

Easy access to technology without understanding the (negatively) innovative methods of scamming makes them an easy prey.

I would go so far as to say that even middle and upper middle class people are not immune to getting scammed. The greater payout promise is always a huge draw regardless of your economic status.

[.sushilkumar]

So my BIL got scammed for princely Sum. Paid 30% (all Paid in hard Cash) a to local Cyber cell inspector and all was recovered back. Just that my car is bonded as security in court ( no stamps on RC, paid 1500 under the table to avoid that )if some body else make claims on those amounts recovered from the account of scamsters.

I am wondering who is scamming whom. Another guy at same office was scammed for 24L and Insp was not even willing to take FIR without his 30% cut on recovery. It have surely open a new revenue stream for our protectors.

Humanity and all is reserved for lesser mortals like us who are earning their bread honestly else there are no saints. you get scammed first and than again robbed to recover that.

[ajmat]

Couple of scams hitting me

First Scam: I bought a Hyundai for my mother. Luckily, I kept the phone number as mine. Before the car was delivered, I got the RSA cam call. Later on, I got the please collect your prize scam. All died down for now. Dreading insurance renewal time.

Second Scam: On the subject of renewal, my personal health insurance is due for renewal. I got one person from my existing health provider ringing from a mobile claiming to be from my insurer, telling me people are deserting current provider (NivaBUPA) and if I am porting the policy, he is advising me not to consider a list of providers. Okay, but he is not even trying to tell me why I should stay on. Keeps calling, I gave him a piece of my mind and told him-

" Yeah call me once to inform, why are you harassing me again and again, the policy is only due next month so I've heard you so get lost"

I also got a call from someone else claiming to be Religare with a competitive quote. I dont take the calls and get regular pings on What's App. I get the feeling the former is trying to push me to the other.


Stating that, I keep getting OTP's from people trying to access my policy details.


As I am 60, my premium is a big whale!

[Gaur]

Originally Posted by professortarzan

A couple of weeks ago, I got a call from a number claiming to be from 'Telecom Department'. Apparently, someone has registered an FIR against a (different) mobile number, which has been registered somewhere in Mumbai using my address proof. Because of this, all the numbers linked to me would be disconnected within 2 hours, cue number one.

Got a similar call today, an automated message plays up saying its a call from " telecom dept" and my number would be disconnected soon, to speak with someone press #9.

I always knew its a scam but still went ahead and pressed 9, a gentleman with a Haryanvi accent picked up and said all mobile numbers linked to me will be disconnected in 2hrs, i asked him how many numbers do i have on my name and why are they being disconnected, he said tell me your name and then i will check and let you know.
I then asked him are you really from telecom dept or SBI because i have taken a loan from SBI and they keep on calling me to pay it back so if you are really from telecom dept please disconnect all my number i will be grateful , there was a moment of silence from him and then i said "abe ******* samjha nahi kya bol main ? ", he wanted to say something but i hung up.

What's troublesome is that these calls are getting sophisticated day by day, considering the huge population (also gullible) that we have its just a matter of a few people being duped per day enough to make truck load of money..

At one point i wonder if all and mighty are also a part of it..

[MalnadMansha]

So, someone tried to scam me today. I had listed my car on cars24, spinny and in FB marketplace. I didn't request for evaluation from spinny since the price showing online itself was less. However, I got a call saying they're from spinny and they've received an offer at higher price for my car. To request for evaluation, they need the OTP. I shared the OTP, considering it is anyways a spinny login OTP. They asked for alternate number and OTP of that as well, since the car already showed lower price in my primary number and to get higher price, they've to list it again from alternate number.

I was sure that they won't ask OTP but thought this maybe some 3rd party agent and anyways it is a spinny OTP and what can go wrong with it!

I logged into my account and checked that car was listed for inspection after 2 days. And I logged in using my alternate number and saw that they've listed some random i20 car and scheduled for evaluation. I'm sure they're trying to run some scam, so cancelled both requests and even raised requests to delete both accounts.(Not sure how it works).

But I'm still not able to figure out how they may run this scam, because the evaluation will call my number only anyways. So that i20 inspection wouldn't have happened in any case. They may try to add their bank account and accept the price after they get that random i20 inspected and get that money to their account, and abscond without giving the car. But for that also, evaluator would've called me for location.

Those who are familiar with how spinny works, can you shed some light into how this scam may work? The scammers may have logged into both my numbers and would've kept the session active.

[NomadSK]

Another online scam/cyber fraud is brewing up. I don't know if it's new or old. Beware and heads-up for you guys.

Few days back, I get an e-mail, before even I open the mail, I get the intuition that the mail is from income-tax department, as in the past I have got such mails from them due to some discrepancy in the return filing.

Finally, when I open the mail, I realized it wasn’t from the IT department. The email was sent with an attached court order (without my name) alleging watching juvenile/child p*rn*graphy. Although there are telltale signs of the fraud, yet the gullible can be easily trapped and blackmailed by the fraudsters.

The mail was signed by "Ritambra Prakash" (ACP Crime Branch)
The attachment was signed by "Tapan Deka" (Director IB)

A simple google search of both the above names showed they were genuine entities.

I knew at this moment that it was some sort of a scam and I had a bit of idea now that this will end with a demand of money, hence thought of playing along with the scamsters to see what's their objective.

End of their mail-1 read,

Please be advised that if we do not hear from you within 24 hours of receiving this notice, serious legal actions would be taken against you.

So Replied to their mail-1 - "Please what should I do next and how can I come out of this mess?"

Next day I get the mail from them - Now this time the mail has my name on it, so I knew, since I had replied to their mail previous day, they have captured the name from that mail.

They still haven't asked for money and end of their mail-2 read,

If you agree with me on the above, an article of justice can be given to you to follow due process and redeem yourself without making you a public sex offender on the internet as this will compromise your personality and reputation on social media.

I believe I have made myself clear and if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to let me know when you reply to this message.

Note: Failure to respond to this message will result in immediate legal action against you within 2 business days.

Now replied to their mail-2 - Please what am I supposed to do and pleaded not to circulate it online.

And finally, I get the 3rd mail, demanding for the money of which read something like this, they were pretty long mails, just quoting the snippets,

This is in acknowledgement of receipt of your e-mail.

Be reminded that this is not a private matter to start asking for forgiveness or suggesting what you want.

1 - TRIAL: The court will take all necessary measures to punish you with a heavy fine or conviction and imprisonment. The court will also publicize the case to discourage others from doing the same.

2 - OUT-OF-COURT SETTLEMENT: This option gives you an opportunity to settle the matter amicably within the Cybercrime Department by paying a fixed settlement fee of Rs. 1,15,976.00/- as required by law.

Once we hear from you, appropriate action will be initiated as per your choice from the above options.

Now it was time to reply to their mail-3 - I acknowledged to their mail and agreed for the option of out of court settlement and also told them that I don’t have this much money to pay upfront and if they can reduce the asking amount

Next day I get mail-4 from them - They aren't ready to give me discount but are ready to take the payment in installments. Also comes the moment of truth,

On the other hand, if you have decided to settle your case amicably before it starts trending on the Internet as a juvenile porn offender; below are the cashiers account information: -

NAME-SIDI NAGGISBANU.
A/C NO-11580100127214.
IFSC CODE-FDRL0001158.
BRANCH: NEW DELHI
FEDERAL BANK
AMOUNT: RS. 1,15,976.00

Send proof of payment as soon as you make the settlement payment for proper accounting and our documentation purposes.

Now you see where this whole saga is going. I decided to send another mail reply to them asking, if it's possible to send UPI payment rather than bank account transfer as that would be immediate. This was to find out the phone number of the person behind the scam. Waited few days for their reply,

There was a radio silence for few days and finally got their reply Mail-4, they didn’t share their UPI ID, which read;

Yes, you can do through UPI payment in three installments as long as it from the same account to the same account.

If you find it difficult to make the transfer to the previous account, please make the deposit to the account below immediately, as failure to make the payment will result to transferring your case file to the tribunal tomorrow morning.

NAME:SHAIKH SALIHA
A/C NO:71120100019158
IFSC CODE:BARB0INDELX
BRANCH: NEW DELHI
BANK OF BARODA
AMOUNT: Rs. 1,15,976.00/-

Eventually, there is radio silence from my end and I can have a last laugh.

So now here I'm a bit muddled. We have names and bank details of the person, then how these people are able to carry out such scams. Isn't it easy for the cops/cyber-crime entities to catch hold of such culprits ?

Anyway this was to spread more awareness. Don't fall into their trap and Stay Safe !

PS- Shared as recieved, picture of the attcahement.

[vaibhavyagnik]

Originally Posted by NomadSK

So now here I'm a bit muddled. We have names and bank details of the person, then how these people are able to carry out such scams. Isn't it easy for the cops/cyber-crime entities to catch hold of such culprits ?

File a complaint on https://cybercrime.gov.in/. You will have to create an account first and then you file your complaint with all the screenshots. You will then get a phone call from regional cyber cell office. The regional cyber cell will ask you about your nearest police station and then the complaint will be forwarded to them. The police station will then create a FIR. This is the max we an do. It is upto the police to find the culprits.

[MyLife_MyCar]

Originally Posted by NomadSK

PS- Shared as recieved, picture of the attcahement.

The attachment gave it away Inserting so many logos, stamps and signatures! What are they, some teenagers?

Originally Posted by vaibhavyagnik

File a complaint on https://cybercrime.gov.in/.

Yes, please file a complaint with cyber crime now that you have information about the 2 accounts belonging to the scammers.

[Fuldagap]

Originally Posted by NomadSK

So now here I'm a bit muddled. We have names and bank details of the person, then how these people are able to carry out such scams. Isn't it easy for the cops/cyber-crime entities to catch hold of such culprits ?

It is hard to catch hold of them. Because of the following reasons:

1. SIM cards used by scamsters are bought from agents selling SIM cards for say Rs. 500. Those SIMs are registered to poor people generally.

2. Scamsters take a bank account on 'rent' for 1 month or so long as the AML team from the concerned bank blocks the account. Bank accounts on rent are again available from agents. One could ask for a variety of accounts, current accounts, savings account, basic account, HNI accounts, 1 year old accounts, new accounts and so on. The scamsters get full access to the said bank account, net banking, upi etc and they even get their 'own' SIM cards registered with those accounts so as to make their ops hassle free, working online all the way.

3. When the police gets a trail, they end up with a rickshaw puller who has no clue what's going on.

4. Authorities are still able to catch some of them. There is too much tech with authorities to find out the real culprits but it takes a lot of time and resources.

The scamsters are crazy & cunning dudes with no fear of authorities. They enjoy doing what they do. It is not just about the money. Every problem with the authorities to them is like a challenge to be 'solved'.

[NomadSK]

Originally Posted by vaibhavyagnik

File a complaint on https://cybercrime.gov.in/. You will have to create an account first and then you file your complaint with all the screenshots. You will then get a phone call from regional cyber cell office.

Thanks for sharing the link, I will create an account and file the complaint, but I’m not sure how the phone call would work, as I’m not in India. I don’t know if they would even bother to call outside of country.

Meanwhile here’s the last mail screenshot, one can see the desperation

[vinu_h]

The usual medium of communication of spammers is a mobile phone number and I religiously report them via Airtel app's DnD facility and it always works. Yes, the spammers have 100 other SIM's to switch to and I'm doing my part by slowing them down. I know Vodafone and Jio also let you report via their app.

[vaibhavyagnik]

Originally Posted by vinu_h

The usual medium of communication of spammers is a mobile phone number and I religiously report them via Airtel app's DnD facility and it always works. Yes, the spammers have 100 other SIM's to switch to and I'm doing my part by slowing them down. I know Vodafone and Jio also let you report via their app.

You can write in your complaint that you are not present in India

[HowDifferent?]

These scamsters are on constant lookout for preys. I have received Telecom, FedEx calls etc. multiple times. Few days back posted my apartment for rent in 99acres and immediately got calls from two seperate fraudsters posing as army personnel relocating and needing apartment for rent. Very poor English was the red flag. On mentioning my preference to discuss face to face, both calls were cut abruptly!

[revsperminute]

I just chuckle at these attempts now. They’re everywhere. Genuinely a problem for older folks and people who aren’t aware of these scams.

Look! An unemployed college student got a loan!!

[anjan_c2007]

Originally Posted by vinu_h

The usual medium of communication of spammers is a mobile phone number and I religiously report them via Airtel app's DnD facility and it always works. Yes, the spammers have 100 other SIM's to switch to and I'm doing my part by slowing them down. I know Vodafone and Jio also let you report via their app.

The spammers truly have 100 × n SIM's and also 1000 x n, SMS id's. I have started blocking all such fraudsters which works. But the mushrooming of hundreds of newer SIM's and SMS id's appears eternal. After all, maybe a time comes when our BLOCKED LIST numbers exceed our CONTACT LIST.

The first and the most trusted remedy against such fraudsters is to not receive calls from unknown numbers. True Caller helps a lot in our decisions to accept or reject any such call/s.