Plane crash in IRAN,169 feared dead

D.V.R · 15th July 2009, 19:15

TEHRAN (Reuters) - A passenger aircraft crashed in northwestern Iran on Wednesday and up to 169 people on board were feared killed, ISNA news agency reported.

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"153 passengers along with 16 crew were on the plane that crashed," ISNA said, without giving a source.
Earlier Iranian state television said that all 150 people on board had been killed.

The Caspian Airlines aircraft was travelling from Tehran to Yerevan in Armenia when it came down at 11:33 a.m. (0703 GMT) near the city of Qazvin, the official IRNA news agency said.

Iran's English-language Press TV said in a scrolling news headline, "150 people on board crashed Iran plane believed dead".

A fire brigade official earlier told IRNA that everyone on board was killed. IRNA quoted an Iranian aviation spokesman a the plane crashed 16 minutes after take-off from the capital's Imam Khomeini International airport.

Another aircrash this year ,OMG.Certainly one of the worst years for the aviation history.

Ripper · 15th July 2009, 21:05

That's Terrible! Another crash with so many people aboard and that too within months of the previous mishap.Really sad.... May their souls rest in Peace!

vivekiny2k · 15th July 2009, 21:08

what can I say, are we becoming too casual about aviation guidelines?

very recently there was a news about air india overloading passengers and giving them spare seat in cockpit

quite easy to hijack a plane I say.

StarVegabond · 15th July 2009, 21:12

I think, off late there have been several airline crashes

Spitfire · 15th July 2009, 21:30

Oh no. This is so bad.

A shot in the dark maybe. But would this be due to the recession with airlines making major cuts in expenditures. Overlooking certain critical aspects to lower costs.

Bhargava_sr · 15th July 2009, 22:27

Shocking news, Second major Air crash in this year. Any information what caused the plane to crash (Technical Issues) ??

aaggoswami · 15th July 2009, 23:25

Its very sad news. What is surprising is that this is, I think, second crash this year. An instrument so precise, how can it go wrong.
Is it that due to recession, cost cutting in maintenance is being done ?
Terrible to say the least.

hillram · 15th July 2009, 23:32

Air Travel is becoming scary.Is this also a case of turbulance?
May the departed souls rest in peace.

greenh0rn · 16th July 2009, 00:49

Guys, some things to put in perspective. Iranian airplanes are world-renowned as creaky ancient machines desparately in need of maintenance. In fact, this is the first major crash with many fatalities, otherwise Iranian planes are reputed to be crash prone. These are Soviet-made planes- I think made in 60s or 70s. No Airbus or Boeing crash this.

blacmagic · 16th July 2009, 03:11

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Originally Posted by vivekiny2k

very recently there was a news about air india overloading passengers and giving them spare seat in cockpit

quite easy to hijack a plane I say.

spare seat in the cockpit??!! which airline? I *got* to book me a ticket!

revtech · 16th July 2009, 03:39

this is the 3rd crash in a span of 2 months !!

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Originally Posted by blacmagic

spare seat in the cockpit??!! which airline? I *got* to book me a ticket!

all planes have a spare(jump) seat in the cockpit..

rev

jkdas · 16th July 2009, 09:20

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Originally Posted by vivekiny2k

what can I say, are we becoming too casual about aviation guidelines?

very recently there was a news about air india overloading passengers and giving them spare seat in cockpit

quite easy to hijack a plane I say.

Comeon, do you think these dudes do a clowns job ?

vivekiny2k · 16th July 2009, 09:58

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Comeon, do you think these dudes do a clowns job ?

is that a question?

AI faces criminal charges for overloading aircraft

phamilyman · 16th July 2009, 12:44

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Originally Posted by aaggoswami

Is it that due to recession, cost cutting in maintenance is being done ?

Please let us think before we type. read below

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

A shot in the dark maybe. But would this be due to the recession with airlines making major cuts in expenditures. Overlooking certain critical aspects to lower costs.

Sorry. That'd be stupid no?
That's the easiest way to lose a plane worth 100-200 million USD, not to mention criminal liability lawsuits if malafide intention gets proven

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Originally Posted by hillram

Air Travel is becoming scary.

Do the math. You're more at risk being hit by a wayward driver on the road in indian cities!

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Originally Posted by greenh0rn

Iranian airplanes are world-renowned as creaky ancient machines desparately in need of maintenance. In fact, this is the first major crash with many fatalities, otherwise Iranian planes are reputed to be crash prone. These are Soviet-made planes- I think made in 60s or 70s.

Chill yaar. This is such a load of crap. Our air defense is courtesy Soviet made systems. And FYI soviet engineering isn't half as bad as your post makes it out to be - when was the last time you read of Airbus' A350/B787 coordination hassles? Ask your armed forces friends no?

Those who want to read some details can go here:
Crash: Caspian Airlines T154 near Janat-Abad on Jul 15th 2009, impacted terrain and burst into flames
Iranian Aircraft Down 15/07/2009 - PPRuNe Forums for all kinda gossip and pilot perspective!

and read about heroics of pilots even in supposed advanced airlines like Emirates:
Emirates A345 Tail Strike Captain breaks his silence - PPRuNe Forums

sometimes its JUST human error:
One-Two-Go crash report released - PPRuNe Forums

Here is how another AF447 was averted:
Incident: Northwest A333 over East China Sea on Jun 23rd 2009, unreliable airspeed
FYI - that's the THIRD A330 incident of this type in the last 2 months. So its NOT the recession guys. Its sometimes technology, sometimes people!

simply_sunny001 · 16th July 2009, 14:25

Thats pretty shocking that we have had 3 deadly crashes in last 2 months and its scary.

But the problem with this crash is US sanctions on Iran and they cannot buy planes from anywhere except Russia and like someone already mentioned Russian passenger planes are nothing to be proud of.

Thats a pity that Iran is not even allowed to buy spares from US orsome other countries for their old planes and thats leading to poor maintenance.

And its not recession and a bit of US policies, outdated technology and rest is bad luck of deceased.

May their souls rip.

15th July 2009, 21:05	#2
Ripper BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 260 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	That's Terrible! Another crash with so many people aboard and that too within months of the previous mishap.Really sad.... May their souls rest in Peace!
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vivekiny2k Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: cincinnati, jabalpur,chennai Posts: 1,264 Thanked: 209 Times View My Garage	what can I say, are we becoming too casual about aviation guidelines? very recently there was a news about air india overloading passengers and giving them spare seat in cockpit quite easy to hijack a plane I say.
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StarVegabond Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,891 Thanked: 42 Times	I think, off late there have been several airline crashes
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Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,312 Thanked: 774 Times	Oh no. This is so bad. A shot in the dark maybe. But would this be due to the recession with airlines making major cuts in expenditures. Overlooking certain critical aspects to lower costs.
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15th July 2009, 22:27	#6
Bhargava_sr BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: HOSUR Posts: 317 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Shocking news, Second major Air crash in this year. Any information what caused the plane to crash (Technical Issues) ??
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aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,931 Times	Its very sad news. What is surprising is that this is, I think, second crash this year. An instrument so precise, how can it go wrong. Is it that due to recession, cost cutting in maintenance is being done ? Terrible to say the least.
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15th July 2009, 23:32	#8
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	Air Travel is becoming scary.Is this also a case of turbulance? May the departed souls rest in peace.
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16th July 2009, 00:49	#9
greenh0rn BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 427 Thanked: 149 Times	Guys, some things to put in perspective. Iranian airplanes are world-renowned as creaky ancient machines desparately in need of maintenance. In fact, this is the first major crash with many fatalities, otherwise Iranian planes are reputed to be crash prone. These are Soviet-made planes- I think made in 60s or 70s. No Airbus or Boeing crash this.
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16th July 2009, 14:25	#15
simply_sunny001 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London & Rohtak Posts: 1,340 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Thats pretty shocking that we have had 3 deadly crashes in last 2 months and its scary. But the problem with this crash is US sanctions on Iran and they cannot buy planes from anywhere except Russia and like someone already mentioned Russian passenger planes are nothing to be proud of. Thats a pity that Iran is not even allowed to buy spares from US orsome other countries for their old planes and thats leading to poor maintenance. And its not recession and a bit of US policies, outdated technology and rest is bad luck of deceased. May their souls rip.
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