Another example of bias ?

normally_crazy · 26th September 2005, 20:57

guys,

just came to know that Paheli has beaten Black , Parineeta , Iqbal , Hazaron khwahisein aisi , Mangal Pandey, Swades et all to become India's entry to the Oscars.

What the hell is happening ? first cricket , now movies - i feel anything and everything can be bought in this country.

it sucks !

mclaren1885 · 26th September 2005, 21:03

what the hell..paheli at the oscars..come on guys it doesnt deserve to get there..the 1st option was black with the wonderful acting by the little girl ayesha and a brilliant performance by rani..gosh i thought black would give a serious run in the oscars for the best foreign movie..i guess "this happens only in india"..

RX135 · 26th September 2005, 21:04

Frustrated, eh? Ever wondered how come, with stereotype performances year after year, SRK bags all FilmFare awards without failure, even when there are far better performances in contention?

normally_crazy · 26th September 2005, 21:07

Spot on RX. all thru the different award functions in India - AB , SRK , Yash Raj movies and music dominate , and yeah they sponsor almost all award functions abroad and quite a few here . so its no surprise but selecting a movie for the Oscars is different , we have to select the BEST ! and again we failed !

DCEite · 26th September 2005, 21:43

Well i cant comment on Paheli.. but i can tell you i had watched Black first day first show and it touched my emotional inside a lot...

gr8guzzler · 26th September 2005, 22:00

I haven't seen Paheli.....but Black was simply superb. BTW, who decides which picture goes as an entry to the oscars?

NC, create a poll and we'll vote for the TBHP entry to the oscars...

Aditya · 26th September 2005, 22:07

Didn't bother to see Paheli. But, I did watch Iqbal, which was one of the best Hindi films I've ever seen and my aunt told me that Black was excellent too. So I would rather have had one of these two movies nominated for the Oscars.

v1p3r · 26th September 2005, 22:56

Black is a copy. It was "inspired" by a European film... I forget the name though...

adya33 · 26th September 2005, 23:31

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Black is a copy. It was "inspired" by a European film... I forget the name though...

if copying hollywood films would result in movies like BLACK I won't mind all producers copying english movies.

about being bias? I don't know
but definetly Paheli is not worthy to send to oscars
they even nominated DEVDAS for oscars

the another desicion that hurted me the most about bollywood

for the best supposrting actor award was given to Salmaan Khan for Kuch Kuch Hota Hai & NOT to Manoj Bajpai for Satya

that was the day I lost all interest in hindi movies
these days I only watch a few that too after hearing from others

RX135 · 27th September 2005, 00:17

BTW, I did watch Paheli and it was a decent entertainer. But it is no way anywhere close to being nominated for Oscars. It is a different subject, which had tremendous potential, but very average handling of it. I felt it very superficial. Wish, Smita Patil was still alive. She would have been best fit for the role. (Rani is not bad, it is the director who goofed it up).

F50 · 27th September 2005, 00:35

Yeah i saw Paheli but never in my dreams thought it would go to Oscars. Lagaan was the only movie fit for the oscars.
And I sometimes feel that Karan Johar + SRK + AB + Kajol .... etc etc rule these Filmfare Awards ... as rightly pointed out ... even if there are better performances they are shadowed by these names. Setting Kya?

BTW, how did Saif got National Award and for what?

RX135 · 27th September 2005, 00:40

I find Saif to be far more spontaneous. He has fantastic timing for comedy and his acting seems just so natural. His recent movies are way superior to his old self.

mclaren1885 · 27th September 2005, 01:13

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Originally Posted by RX135

I find Saif to be far more spontaneous. He has fantastic timing for comedy and his acting seems just so natural. His recent movies are way superior to his old self.

i totally agree to that..specially saifs performances in KHNH,humtum and recently salaam namaste are worthy of being praised..he just looks so bubly and vivacious on the screen and his humorous scences are just too good..well the only reason SRK is winning awards after awards is bcoz people in india still love the senti scenes he comes up with(K3G,mohabbatein,KHNH etc being the remenesence of that) and amir khan refusing to attend or accept any national or filmfare awards..i guess its high time that saif gets the mantel from SRK of being the lead role in the future films..

Scuderia · 27th September 2005, 11:08

I think they should start holding the Filmfare awards in the backyard of that bungalow "mannat".

Waise bhi, apart from these selected (or rejected) coupla dozen guys, no one goes to the stage.

So why waste time and money.

Paheli preceding Black to the Oscars... man m gonna laugh all day today

manaa45 · 27th September 2005, 11:20

when i saw this in the news i could only say :WTF:

i have seen black, hazaroon kwahishein, iqbal and i felt that atleast one of these films deserved to be nominated. black is a film class apart. nobody can beat it.

the selectors are arguing that paheli potrays the essence of india. please, it is all about film making and performances at the oscars and nothing else. and paheli has nothing of it. black and iqbal does have some grt performances.

i think indian selectors should have some sense drilled in them to understand what is oscars all about. they should not potray india where ghosts rule the roost.

shubbhi

26th September 2005, 20:57	#1
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,305 Thanked: 543 Times View My Garage	Another example of bias ? guys, just came to know that Paheli has beaten Black , Parineeta , Iqbal , Hazaron khwahisein aisi , Mangal Pandey, Swades et all to become India's entry to the Oscars. What the hell is happening ? first cricket , now movies - i feel anything and everything can be bought in this country. it sucks !
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26th September 2005, 21:03	#2
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,818 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	what the hell..paheli at the oscars..come on guys it doesnt deserve to get there..the 1st option was black with the wonderful acting by the little girl ayesha and a brilliant performance by rani..gosh i thought black would give a serious run in the oscars for the best foreign movie..i guess "this happens only in india"..
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26th September 2005, 21:04	#3
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 77 Times	Frustrated, eh? Ever wondered how come, with stereotype performances year after year, SRK bags all FilmFare awards without failure, even when there are far better performances in contention?
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26th September 2005, 21:07	#4
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,305 Thanked: 543 Times View My Garage	Spot on RX. all thru the different award functions in India - AB , SRK , Yash Raj movies and music dominate , and yeah they sponsor almost all award functions abroad and quite a few here . so its no surprise but selecting a movie for the Oscars is different , we have to select the BEST ! and again we failed !
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26th September 2005, 21:43	#5
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,589 Thanked: 3,485 Times	Well i cant comment on Paheli.. but i can tell you i had watched Black first day first show and it touched my emotional inside a lot...
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26th September 2005, 22:00	#6
gr8guzzler BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 653 Thanked: 87 Times View My Garage	I haven't seen Paheli.....but Black was simply superb. BTW, who decides which picture goes as an entry to the oscars? NC, create a poll and we'll vote for the TBHP entry to the oscars... Last edited by gr8guzzler : 26th September 2005 at 22:01.
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26th September 2005, 22:07	#7
Aditya Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 20,087 Thanked: 86,571 Times View My Garage	Didn't bother to see Paheli. But, I did watch Iqbal, which was one of the best Hindi films I've ever seen and my aunt told me that Black was excellent too. So I would rather have had one of these two movies nominated for the Oscars. Last edited by Aditya : 26th September 2005 at 23:27.
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26th September 2005, 22:56	#8
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,364 Thanked: 7,505 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Black is a copy. It was "inspired" by a European film... I forget the name though...
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27th September 2005, 00:17	#10
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 77 Times	BTW, I did watch Paheli and it was a decent entertainer. But it is no way anywhere close to being nominated for Oscars. It is a different subject, which had tremendous potential, but very average handling of it. I felt it very superficial. Wish, Smita Patil was still alive. She would have been best fit for the role. (Rani is not bad, it is the director who goofed it up).
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27th September 2005, 00:35	#11
F50 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai/USA Posts: 1,704 Thanked: 103 Times	Yeah i saw Paheli but never in my dreams thought it would go to Oscars. Lagaan was the only movie fit for the oscars. And I sometimes feel that Karan Johar + SRK + AB + Kajol .... etc etc rule these Filmfare Awards ... as rightly pointed out ... even if there are better performances they are shadowed by these names. Setting Kya? BTW, how did Saif got National Award and for what?
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27th September 2005, 00:40	#12
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 77 Times	I find Saif to be far more spontaneous. He has fantastic timing for comedy and his acting seems just so natural. His recent movies are way superior to his old self.
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27th September 2005, 11:08	#14
Scuderia BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 127 Thanked: 8 Times	I think they should start holding the Filmfare awards in the backyard of that bungalow "mannat". Waise bhi, apart from these selected (or rejected) coupla dozen guys, no one goes to the stage. So why waste time and money. Paheli preceding Black to the Oscars... man m gonna laugh all day today
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27th September 2005, 11:20	#15
manaa45 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: nerul, navi mum Posts: 359 Thanked: 49 Times	when i saw this in the news i could only say :WTF: i have seen black, hazaroon kwahishein, iqbal and i felt that atleast one of these films deserved to be nominated. black is a film class apart. nobody can beat it. the selectors are arguing that paheli potrays the essence of india. please, it is all about film making and performances at the oscars and nothing else. and paheli has nothing of it. black and iqbal does have some grt performances. i think indian selectors should have some sense drilled in them to understand what is oscars all about. they should not potray india where ghosts rule the roost. shubbhi
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