[asingh1977]

These guys are like the Blue line buses of Delhi in the 90’s. Just barrage and push/way through anyone and everyone. A total nuisance and pestilence on the road. A blanket rule should be applied banning them. Most of the time they are on the phone, uncouth, and totally brash. Worst they park “anywhere”.

Last month I was getting seat covers at Vatika place. A such biker came and shoved (parked) his motorcycle like few inches away from my car. I told him, reply “call me from inside the restaurant” and walked off.
Yesterday while getting security done at a condo, again a delivery guy was trying to shove his bike between my car and the security beat cabin. How daft can one be?

[Nostalgic3r]

Originally Posted by msdivy

Couple of points:

1) Food is usually ordered from nearby restaurants. Most delivery times fall below 30 minutes. That is why the food delivery apps can guarantee the delivery times. I am not sure whether the apps allow to order from another part of the city.

Not really. They claim to get you food from any part of town. I think it is true, since usually the restaurants that come up on my screen are quite far away from my home.

[PrideRed]

For people who do not use a particular service its always a menace. I find BMTC a big nuisance in Bangalore as I don't use it. A family friend finds radio taxi's a big nuisance and believes is the cause for all traffic problems and yes he doesnot use them. I posted a review on revolutionary service called Bounce and people find it a menace. What we have to understand is, ours is a densely populated country and developing. If a service is expensive, people cannot afford resulting in company shutting shop. The companies make them affordable and more people use it. These service while menace to many is also beneficial to others.

[TorqueyTechie]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

For people who do not use a particular service its always a menace. I find BMTC a big nuisance in Bangalore as I don't use it. A family friend finds radio taxi's a big nuisance and believes is the cause for all traffic problems and yes he doesnot use them. I posted a review on revolutionary service called Bounce and people find it a menace. What we have to understand is, ours is a densely populated country and developing. If a service is expensive, people cannot afford resulting in company shutting shop. The companies make them affordable and more people use it. These service while menace to many is also beneficial to others.

Fair point but the point here is regarding the service delivery personnel rather than the service itself ain't it. Nobody has any issue with Swiggy/Food panda or any other such services (it's super convenient) but the way service people flaunt rules and create issues on the road. I have the same gripe with Uber/Ola too (and I use those services myself) but alas there is nothing that can be done except they themselves understand.

[msdivy]

Originally Posted by Nostalgic3r

Not really. They claim to get you food from any part of town. I think it is true, since usually the restaurants that come up on my screen are quite far away from my home.

Distance between my office & home is around 20 Km. I have tried ordering food from restaurants near from office to have it delivered at home. But Zomato says 'Does not deliver'.

Originally Posted by PrideRed

For people who do not use a particular service its always a menace.

Wrong assertion

I find BMTC a big nuisance in Bangalore as I don't use it. A family friend finds radio taxi's a big nuisance and believes is the cause for all traffic problems and yes he does not use them. I posted a review on revolutionary service called Bounce and people find it a menace.

BMTC is a nuisance because they don't stop at bus stops.
Radio/App taxi is a nuisance because they stop anywhere to pick up & drop passengers.
Bounce is a nuisance because, the bikes are abandoned at prime spots, sometimes blocking a lane.

What we have to understand is, ours is a densely populated country and developing.

There are many more-densely populated countries, both rich & poor who have better traffic discipline.

Coming back, food delivery executives are a nuisance since they park in front of restaurants where there is no parking, they ride on foot-paths, then against one-way traffic, skip traffic lights. I have no problem with their food service. The grouse is with their traffic sense.

[locusjag]

For the record, food delivery executives have been pushing the limits of road safety for decades now. Back in 1999, I remember how Domino's delivery guys would risk life, limb, stacked pizzas and their motorcycles to deliver within 30 minutes in Chennai; Domino's had its "we will deliver within 30 minutes, or else it's free for you" policy. It wasn't surprising at all to see a Domino's pizza delivery guy crashing somewhere on the road.

Should we be blaming the game and not the players? Wasn't the 30 minute delivery thing unfair to the delivery boys?

Fast forwarding to the present - how about the fact that a Swiggy guy out for delivery has probably removed 3 or 4 motorcycles and/or cars from the road?

A George R R Martinesque view of things wherein the food delivery world is seen in multiple shades of grey might be needed, as against a Tolkienian view where there are only Black and White.

[Nostalgic3r]

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[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by TorqueyTechie

Fair point but the point here is regarding the service delivery personnel rather than the service itself ain't it. Nobody has any issue with Swiggy/Food panda or any other such services (it's super convenient) but the way service people flaunt rules and create issues on the road. I have the same gripe with Uber/Ola too (and I use those services myself) but alas there is nothing that can be done except they themselves understand.

Well its same with everything else. BMTC is definitely much needed but its the drivers who create problems. Uber would be great if drivers drive well, but they wont. People like these service but not the baggage it comes with. Either the services should stop or we need to accept the reality!

[Thad E Ginathom]

These delivery services employ two-wheeler riders who drive like... two-wheeler riders. That's the root problem. They don't do anything that many other two-wheeler riders don't do, including stuff like taking to the pavement because they can't wait in a queue.

If we take a bar with the few disciplined, informed, good two-wheeler road users at one end (they go largely unnoticed as they simply do the right thing) and the many who should probably not even be on the road at the other, it may be that the food guys are in with that crowd. Their antics and the risks they pose to themselves and others are discussed in other threads, notably the ones about accidents and bad drivers. I don't think that the food guys are the worst. I see mothers with children on scooters driving just as dangerously and lawlessly, albeit perhaps slightly more slowly.

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by msdivy

BMTC is a nuisance because they don't stop at bus stops.
Radio/App taxi is a nuisance because they stop anywhere to pick up & drop passengers.
Bounce is a nuisance because, the bikes are abandoned at prime spots, sometimes blocking a lane.
There are many more-densely populated countries, both rich & poor who have better traffic discipline.

Coming back, food delivery executives are a nuisance since they park in front of restaurants where there is no parking, they ride on foot-paths, then against one-way traffic, skip traffic lights. I have no problem with their food service. The grouse is with their traffic sense.

Based on your logic, BMTC, Radio taxi, bounce are all nuisance because they don't park in designated place which is nothing but "No Parking". The former are no less in breaking rules either. So the problem is not specific to food delivery executives. Recently I was speaking to elderly person from old part of Bangalore and he was telling me " these IT people are such a menace, they have ruined peace in Bangalore". Everyone's pointing fingers at others.

[speedmiester]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

For people who do not use a particular service its always a menace. I find BMTC a big nuisance in Bangalore as I don't use it. A family friend finds radio taxi's a big nuisance and believes is the cause for all traffic problems and yes he doesnot use them. I posted a review on revolutionary service called Bounce and people find it a menace. What we have to understand is, ours is a densely populated country and developing. If a service is expensive, people cannot afford resulting in company shutting shop. The companies make them affordable and more people use it. These service while menace to many is also beneficial to others.

No body here has any issue with the service, issue is with the service delivery.
Just because I use a service doesn't mean that the service provider has to break laws to provide the service.
These delivery executives ride with no regard to fellow motorists, jumping signals, riding on footpaths, driving against traffic cause more chaos on the road. This is the issue to be discussed on this thread and not the service itself.

[Santoshbhat]

Worst part is that their utter disdain for traffic signals, especially, has a rub off effect on other two wheelers and motorists. All you need is for one Swiggy bike to jump the signal and you have a dozen followers doing the same. Traffic police has to come up with a method to curb this menace soon otherwise the already bad driving/ riding culture in our cities will go completely out of control.

[arindambasu13]

Originally Posted by speedmiester

No body here has any issue with the service, issue is with the service delivery.
Just because I use a service doesn't mean that the service provider has to break laws to provide the service.
These delivery executives ride with no regard to fellow motorists, jumping signals, riding on footpaths, driving against traffic cause more chaos on the road. This is the issue to be discussed on this thread and not the service itself.

Absolutely agree with this. Just because I am a patron of Swiggy etc. does not mean that I endorse the reckless manner in which the delivery guys drive their two wheelers.

The companies employing or contracting them really need to put their heads down and address this issue, since there have been countless times when these bikes have nearly crashed into my car, or other cars on the road, darted into fast moving lanes, cut signals, ridden at breakneck speeds on wrong sides of the roads and almost run over pedestrians. This happens on a daily basis, and are not one off instances.

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by speedmiester

No body here has any issue with the service, issue is with the service delivery.
Just because I use a service doesn't mean that the service provider has to break laws to provide the service.
These delivery executives ride with no regard to fellow motorists, jumping signals, riding on footpaths, driving against traffic cause more chaos on the road. This is the issue to be discussed on this thread and not the service itself.

Agree, but what I am trying to say is every service comes with a baggage and service delivery is part of it. Given how well the laws are enforced everybody is bound to take advantage. Also another point is the problem you mentioned is not specific to food delivery executives but prevalent in many other service. In no way I mean " They break law, I too will" but the problem is not just theirs. I am sure many would have blasted these executives for delay in delivery, wet package etc. A lot of executives are exploited not just by their company but by customers and many live in fear of being penalized.

[binand]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

Also another point is the problem you mentioned is not specific to food delivery executives

The thing is, at the aggregate level FDEs are a bigger menace than any other bike-using group due to their sheer numbers on the road.