Freewheeling hub Stolen or Fell off

kittigadu · 10th March 2009, 10:29

yesterday i noticed the front right freewheeling hub of my jeep is missing.
On saturday, i drove out of town for almost a 300Kms. Before going out, i have done the routine check of everything but the hubs. i knew they were unlocked and thats all. Never bothered to check them.

Now, the whole doubt is whether if it has been stolen or did it come out loose and fell off somewhere. Since i have alloys on my jeep, the hub cannot be removed unless someone removes a small plate with an allen key.
My jeep is parked on the road side in front of my house with the stolen hub side facing the road.
One theory is that it might have been stolen.
but, If it is stolen, why would some one remove the plate, remove the hub and put the plate back on. Wherecan they get the time to put it back on. When i checked, the plate is really tight and snug.

Freewheeling hub Stolen or Fell off-dgpj1-medium.jpg

Now the other theory could be, the nuts would have come out with the wheel rotation and loosened itself and fell off. But thats highly impossible in my view.

Freewheeling hub Stolen or Fell off-dgpj3-medium.jpg

Still not able to understand how it happened.
Just be safe.

Regards,
Krishna.

manikjeet · 10th March 2009, 11:38

Have a look at the hex bolt, do they show sign of recent opening

vikram_d · 10th March 2009, 11:43

Why would somebody steal just one hub and not the other is my doubt? The bolts can get loosened due to vibrations, especially if they are not torqued properly. I think the bolts came loose and it fell off.

siddartha · 10th March 2009, 14:40

the free wheeling hubs cannot fall off , there is a circlip on the inside which holds the hub in addition to the bolts.

also guys please take a closer look at the pic , the hub is very much there , only the outer cover of the hub has been removed or fallen off .

HappyWheels · 10th March 2009, 14:44

As Vikram asked, but why only one?

This is unless the thief was very particular about what he want and how many he wants - even going to the extend of putting back remaining things as they were before scooting off.

I might have just fallen off, Kittu. Do check the others also, physically, not just visually.

manikjeet · 10th March 2009, 15:12

if it were one or two nut then i would have thought that it has fallen of but 6 its highly impossible

i can think of only one reason that the thief was dumb and thought the free wheel hub was actually the main hub holding the rim he tried to open it but after opening 6 nut the rim diddn't come out so he gave up

star_aqua · 10th March 2009, 15:16

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Originally Posted by siddartha

the free wheeling hubs cannot fall off , there is a circlip on the inside which holds the hub in addition to the bolts.

also guys please take a closer look at the pic , the hub is very much there , only the outer cover of the hub has been removed or fallen off .

No Siddu, the complete hub has fallen off. not just the outer cover. and i guess it is not stolen. it has just came off. i agree with the circlip. but you can install it without circlip. it happens if it is installed by yourself or some mechanic. the importance of the circlip is only known to lambda guys and you will have it only if you get it installed by lambda guys. i have on my CJ without circlip and with circlip on my MM.

The circlip is mainly used for this purpose only. Lambda guy Arun also told me the same when i got it installed on my MM. He said there are chances that the hub may fall off on the move.

vikram_d · 10th March 2009, 15:47

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Originally Posted by manikjeet

if it were one or two nut then i would have thought that it has fallen of but 6 its highly impossible

I have seen instances where all 8 bolts of an engine fly wheel have come loose. So any thing is possible.

siddartha · 10th March 2009, 15:47

are you sure star aqua ?

star_aqua · 10th March 2009, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by siddartha

are you sure star aqua ?

Sure siddu. look there, if its the outer cover then you dont see the protruded axle. the axle would be inside the hub.

siddartha · 10th March 2009, 16:22

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Originally Posted by star_aqua

Sure siddu. look there, if its the outer cover then you dont see the protruded axle. the axle would be inside the hub.

if you remove the you will definitely see the splined axle shaft!

star_aqua · 10th March 2009, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by siddartha

if you remove the you will definitely see the splined axle shaft!

yes you are right, but look at the depth. the splined axle shaft must be inside incase if we open just the cover, but for me it appears to be outside. dont know how it is appearing to others.

siddartha · 10th March 2009, 16:49

check the following pics.

star_aqua · 10th March 2009, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by siddartha

check the following pics.

Siddu check out this
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...s-_6055682.jpg

Now match the profile of the hub without cover and the profile without hub.
Krishna is having lambda hubs and checkout how the lambda hubs are different from AISIN.

siddartha · 10th March 2009, 17:47

the mounting bolts of the hubs cannot be accessed with out removing the plate on the alloy wheel , the bolts which hold the cover have been removed or fallen off.

10th March 2009, 10:29	#1
kittigadu BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: TS-07 Posts: 244 Thanked: 268 Times	Freewheeling hub Stolen or Fell off yesterday i noticed the front right freewheeling hub of my jeep is missing. On saturday, i drove out of town for almost a 300Kms. Before going out, i have done the routine check of everything but the hubs. i knew they were unlocked and thats all. Never bothered to check them. Now, the whole doubt is whether if it has been stolen or did it come out loose and fell off somewhere. Since i have alloys on my jeep, the hub cannot be removed unless someone removes a small plate with an allen key. My jeep is parked on the road side in front of my house with the stolen hub side facing the road. One theory is that it might have been stolen. but, If it is stolen, why would some one remove the plate, remove the hub and put the plate back on. Wherecan they get the time to put it back on. When i checked, the plate is really tight and snug. Now the other theory could be, the nuts would have come out with the wheel rotation and loosened itself and fell off. But thats highly impossible in my view. Still not able to understand how it happened. Just be safe. Regards, Krishna.
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10th March 2009, 11:38	#2
manikjeet Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 1,617 Thanked: 296 Times View My Garage	Have a look at the hex bolt, do they show sign of recent opening
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10th March 2009, 11:43	#3
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,422 Thanked: 1,189 Times	Why would somebody steal just one hub and not the other is my doubt? The bolts can get loosened due to vibrations, especially if they are not torqued properly. I think the bolts came loose and it fell off.
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10th March 2009, 14:40	#4
siddartha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 671 Thanked: 24 Times	the free wheeling hubs cannot fall off , there is a circlip on the inside which holds the hub in addition to the bolts. also guys please take a closer look at the pic , the hub is very much there , only the outer cover of the hub has been removed or fallen off . Last edited by siddartha : 10th March 2009 at 14:46.
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10th March 2009, 14:44	#5
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,145 Thanked: 571 Times	As Vikram asked, but why only one? This is unless the thief was very particular about what he want and how many he wants - even going to the extend of putting back remaining things as they were before scooting off. I might have just fallen off, Kittu. Do check the others also, physically, not just visually.
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10th March 2009, 15:12	#6
manikjeet Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 1,617 Thanked: 296 Times View My Garage	if it were one or two nut then i would have thought that it has fallen of but 6 its highly impossible i can think of only one reason that the thief was dumb and thought the free wheel hub was actually the main hub holding the rim he tried to open it but after opening 6 nut the rim diddn't come out so he gave up
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10th March 2009, 15:47	#9
siddartha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 671 Thanked: 24 Times	are you sure star aqua ? Last edited by siddartha : 10th March 2009 at 15:52.
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10th March 2009, 16:49	#13
siddartha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 671 Thanked: 24 Times	check the following pics. Attached Thumbnails
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10th March 2009, 17:47	#15
siddartha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 671 Thanked: 24 Times	the mounting bolts of the hubs cannot be accessed with out removing the plate on the alloy wheel , the bolts which hold the cover have been removed or fallen off. Attached Thumbnails
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